Re: I never claimed I was against repercussions and people here are denying it is censorship
DomA Send a noteboard - 27/07/2012 06:23:17 PM
That is blatant censorship and not the necessary evil sort of censorship but the sort that requires group think and suppresses the free exchange of idea.
This is completely ridiculous. In your argument you seem totally oblivious to the fact the Olympic movement is independent and has values and a code of ethics every athlete wishing to be part of their Games must adhere to. There's no universal right to participate in the Olympics, it's a privilege. If you don't share the values or philosophy of that organization, you keep a lid on it or shut up hypocritically in order to still participate, or you do the right thing and stand by your values and refuse to participate. That's it, that's all. You don't join under false pretense of sharing values you don't share and go complain you're being censored when you make comments incompatible with the values you were supposed to uphold and got banned from participation as a result.
To make it clear, I find the consequences a bit harsh in her case - she probably didn't realize the implications of her xenophobic joke - but the decision followed the letter and spirit of the Olympic code and can perfectly be defended, even more in the current political context in Greece with all the bad press their extreme right xenophobic party already gave them worlwide in the last months = and the IOC could but did not overule the decision, so implicitely agree with it. The Greek OC was certainly not looking keenly to one of its athletes getting booed by the London crowd as a xenophobe for all the world to see.
There's so many things to criticize the Olympic movement over, no need to invent false scandals when they did the right thing.
Am I the only one who thinks Voula Papachristou should not have been kicked out of the Olympics?
- 25/07/2012 10:55:19 PM
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Being on a country's Olympic team is a privilege, not a right
- 25/07/2012 11:00:24 PM
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So banning blacks would be cool if it was legal in that country?
- 25/07/2012 11:08:52 PM
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The IOC can ban nations from participating for that sort of stunt.
- 25/07/2012 11:33:23 PM
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If Hitler could let Jesse Owens run...
- 25/07/2012 11:07:19 PM
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Yes. Political power should not be used to enforce morals.
- 25/07/2012 11:53:19 PM
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The national Olympic Committees aren't the government.
- 26/07/2012 12:02:43 AM
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Even worse.
- 26/07/2012 12:08:05 AM
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Erm
- 26/07/2012 12:29:32 AM
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I fail to see how the whole team would be thrown out.
- 26/07/2012 12:41:16 AM
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Because the IOC throws them out if the national government interferes in the national committe. *NM*
- 26/07/2012 12:43:39 AM
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Africans != illegals
- 25/07/2012 11:19:32 PM
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Specious reasoning.
- 26/07/2012 12:07:08 AM
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Who are you to decide that?
- 26/07/2012 12:16:45 AM
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I'm not the one deciding.
- 26/07/2012 12:36:17 AM
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You stated it as a fact.
- 26/07/2012 07:49:58 PM
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Well, it is a fact that a north African could never become ethnically Greek.
- 29/07/2012 03:27:50 AM
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I think any organisation should have the right to choose who represents them
- 25/07/2012 11:20:36 PM
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Well, but that's not the end of it.
- 26/07/2012 12:12:09 AM
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It is for me
- 26/07/2012 12:26:25 AM
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So...conformity ahead? *NM*
- 26/07/2012 12:40:03 AM
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Athletes taking responsibility for their own actions, if that is what you mean.
- 26/07/2012 12:44:56 AM
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Is that all that happened?
- 25/07/2012 11:28:17 PM
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For me it is more than enough
- 26/07/2012 12:32:35 AM
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I thought the original ideals of the Olympics were to honor Zeus. *NM*
- 26/07/2012 12:38:32 AM
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I view the long dead Greek Olympics as seperate, despite the shared name, from the modern Olympics *NM*
- 26/07/2012 12:42:18 AM
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Difficult question - if you ask me, the key point is a question of authority.
- 25/07/2012 11:40:39 PM
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Well it seems a bit of an over-reaction, and I doubt the purity of motives of those doing it, but...
- 26/07/2012 01:49:35 AM
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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Voula Papachristou should not have been kicked out of the Olympics?
- 26/07/2012 11:14:39 AM
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I'm going to boycott by turning off the Olympics and watching Michelle Jenneke nonstop instead. *NM*
- 26/07/2012 09:02:59 PM
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I oppose censorship even if it is not comng from the government
- 26/07/2012 10:16:30 PM
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How is it censorship?
- 27/07/2012 02:33:30 AM
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try looking up the word censorship and ask yourself would their actions supress speech
- 27/07/2012 02:59:11 AM
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I know the definition thank you. How exactly was her communication suppressed?
- 27/07/2012 05:54:39 PM
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you are right public punishment of political expression could never been seen as suppression
- 27/07/2012 06:20:15 PM
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Well
- 27/07/2012 07:20:27 PM
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Where did she ever imply she wanted them to be bitten? *NM*
- 27/07/2012 08:03:05 PM
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Hello earth.... "food from home".
- 27/07/2012 08:26:15 PM
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OK I repeat my question: Where did she she WANTED them to be bit?
- 30/07/2012 09:07:01 PM
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Um, she referred to them as food?
- 27/07/2012 08:38:22 PM
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No what is silly is inferring that she hoped they would be bitten *NM*
- 30/07/2012 09:09:18 PM
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No what is silly is inferring that she hoped they would be bitten *NM*
- 30/07/2012 09:09:27 PM
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I'm with you on this - I don't think she wanted them to be bitten.
- 27/07/2012 09:02:05 PM
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Re: I'm with you on this - I don't think she wanted them to be bitten.
- 27/07/2012 09:32:56 PM
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Do you have to go to special schools to learn how to read that much into dumb jokes?
- 30/07/2012 09:57:21 PM
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Re: you are right public punishment of political expression could never been seen as suppression
- 27/07/2012 08:30:26 PM
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One problem.
- 27/07/2012 04:54:52 AM
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Exactly
- 27/07/2012 12:05:14 PM
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where do you people get these backasswards idea of what censorship is? PCmart?
- 27/07/2012 02:01:29 PM
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We can have this conversation w/o you being mean.
- 27/07/2012 02:57:02 PM
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I never claimed I was against repercussions and people here are denying it is censorship
- 27/07/2012 04:18:54 PM
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Re: I never claimed I was against repercussions and people here are denying it is censorship
- 27/07/2012 05:01:37 PM
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Re: I never claimed I was against repercussions and people here are denying it is censorship
- 27/07/2012 06:23:17 PM
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sorry I forgot the Olympic spirit was about banning athletes for dumb jokes they apologized for
- 27/07/2012 08:30:08 PM
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You're really not going to make sense of this if you keep mashing everything together.
- 27/07/2012 08:59:35 PM
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Re: You're really not going to make sense of this if you keep mashing everything together.
- 27/07/2012 09:18:08 PM
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I know who did the banning but the whole organization seems to infested with a certain flavor of PC
- 30/07/2012 10:11:26 PM
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Re: sorry I forgot the Olympic spirit was about banning athletes for dumb jokes they apologized for
- 27/07/2012 09:01:07 PM
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I know you said it but do you actually believe it?
- 27/07/2012 01:56:35 PM
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It's a good question, but yes, I do.
- 27/07/2012 02:42:28 PM
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Are going to ban everyone and everyone country who says something about anyone else?
- 27/07/2012 04:47:51 PM
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i have a feeling you are being influenced by that pic they run with all the articles about her?
- 27/07/2012 02:14:13 PM
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- 27/07/2012 02:14:13 PM
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Surely you don't think...
- 27/07/2012 02:57:47 PM
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I can honestly say I would not care as much if she were a man and/or ugly
- 29/07/2012 03:29:47 AM
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And now the next incident... this time about an athlete's partner, not the athlete herself.
- 03/08/2012 09:47:27 PM
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