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This really is blatantly obvious, but still it might bear repeating... Legolas Send a noteboard - 21/10/2012 04:43:13 PM
Not the same, because you are arbitrarily excluding groups due to invalid criteria. The fact that gay people don't want to marry the opposite sex does not mean they have the right to a compensatory privilege. That's like saying that since I choose not to avail myself of the privilege of driving a motor vehicle, I may instead choose to utilize the public roads in a different manner that will impede the ability of licensed drivers to use them for their proper function, such as by pushing a wheelbarrow down the fast lane of a major highway. You can make all specious arguments you want about my right to move goods by the fastest route available, or how environmentally superior my mode of transport is, but it does not change the fact that I am abusing something in an illegal manner and my desire to use a public institution in my own way does not grant me the right to do so.

The key part of your analogy, as I'm sure you'll agree, lies in the "impede the ability of licensed drivers to use them for their proper function" aspect. It's fairly pointless to make the analogy if you're going to skirt around the key issue of how, exactly, gay marriage "impedes the ability of heterosexual people to use marriage for its proper function". Because unless you can come up with some solid arguments proving that it does - and I for one am inclined to say you can't - the whole thing falls flat on its face.
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For all you supporters of Gay Marriage: What about polygamy? - 20/10/2012 12:02:06 AM 1447 Views
Legal rights. - 20/10/2012 12:14:10 AM 843 Views
It almost sounds like you are saying... - 20/10/2012 12:31:40 AM 831 Views
That is what I'm saying it. - 20/10/2012 01:07:50 AM 807 Views
Technically, privileges, not rights. - 20/10/2012 04:16:45 AM 813 Views
Sure - 20/10/2012 12:35:53 AM 740 Views
All for it... For adults over the age of 18. *NM* - 20/10/2012 01:18:04 AM 507 Views
What about it? - 20/10/2012 01:21:17 AM 806 Views
+1 *NM* - 20/10/2012 01:51:25 AM 537 Views
+2 *NM* - 20/10/2012 11:18:39 AM 409 Views
should be legal, would be nice for poly people. should include polygyny and polyandry. *NM* - 20/10/2012 03:29:05 AM 412 Views
poly people? - 20/10/2012 12:44:01 PM 838 Views
Government needs to stop legislating morality. So yes *NM* - 20/10/2012 03:36:37 AM 399 Views
That's a huge chunk of what government does. - 20/10/2012 04:35:45 PM 777 Views
That's not what I'm saying - 21/10/2012 03:21:08 AM 801 Views
So you're opposed to abortion and gun control then? Welcome aboard! - 21/10/2012 06:14:14 AM 752 Views
Why do you keep talking about gay marriage and polygamy in the same sentence.. - 20/10/2012 03:58:26 AM 818 Views
Get a grip. Your response is just what I tried to avoid. - 20/10/2012 04:33:40 AM 745 Views
The more fool you. - 21/10/2012 05:55:30 AM 835 Views
Ha! Point. *NM* - 20/10/2012 05:40:34 AM 679 Views
Marriage is always a choice, whatever the motive(s.) - 22/10/2012 04:00:40 PM 771 Views
I have no problem with polygamy being legal, but marriage is a privilege and can be limited to two. - 20/10/2012 04:16:08 AM 837 Views
The only problem with that is that it was established with a heterosexist assumption - 21/10/2012 06:33:32 AM 798 Views
From a legal perspective, all of your arguments are irrelevant - 21/10/2012 03:12:39 PM 907 Views
How would you argue for putting it in the same category as race? - 21/10/2012 04:28:12 PM 830 Views
I wouldn't put it in exactly the same category. - 21/10/2012 08:43:51 PM 860 Views
This really is blatantly obvious, but still it might bear repeating... - 21/10/2012 04:43:13 PM 793 Views
That limitation is still prejudicial and somewhat arbitrary. - 22/10/2012 04:25:25 PM 992 Views
I got no opinion on it. - 20/10/2012 12:51:43 PM 869 Views
The idea of a group marriage makes me uncomfortable - 20/10/2012 04:19:48 PM 745 Views
As long as it is equitable - 20/10/2012 05:55:57 PM 741 Views
The state shouldn't even recognize marriage beyond name changes anyway - 21/10/2012 03:52:40 AM 816 Views
Indeed - 21/10/2012 06:04:41 AM 881 Views
I don't give a damn what you call it. That's your business. - 21/10/2012 06:17:40 AM 1153 Views
And so? - 21/10/2012 07:05:08 AM 774 Views
Re: And so? - 21/10/2012 04:10:19 PM 958 Views
Legal contracts must be open to all consenting adults, or none. - 22/10/2012 03:11:55 PM 836 Views
You are correct, yet your reasoning is flawed. - 23/10/2012 03:20:25 PM 748 Views
Again, the Equal Protection Clause has far less force on private entities than on government. - 23/10/2012 03:52:06 PM 687 Views
Much less force, yes. - 23/10/2012 04:15:03 PM 695 Views
The crux is "If it's my business, it's my business." - 23/10/2012 04:43:25 PM 765 Views
+1 *NM* - 23/10/2012 07:36:46 PM 345 Views
No the analogy is not exact, nor legally the same... - 23/10/2012 07:33:25 PM 660 Views
Analogy is not equality, only similarity. - 24/10/2012 04:37:29 PM 867 Views
We aren't asking for something better or different. - 23/10/2012 04:27:04 PM 750 Views
yeah, it is very circular. - 23/10/2012 07:44:33 PM 789 Views

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