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Marriage is always a choice, whatever the motive(s.) Joel Send a noteboard - 22/10/2012 04:00:40 PM
as if they are on the same page of topics?

Homosexuality is not chosen, it just is or is not.

Medical evidence either way remains inconclusive. It probably comes down to the old nature vs. nurture debate, and is not SOLELY chosen NOR predetermined.

Polygamy is a choice, 100%. No one wakes up as they are coming into themselves in their teens and thinks "OMG I'm a polygamist!!"

Most teens wake up (daily) thinking, OMG, I want to have sex with many people! I dare say they far outnumber those who wake up thinking, OMG, I want to have sex with my own gender!

What each chooses to DO about their thoughts and desires is another matter. Many strongly reject marriage on any basis. However, many others actively seek a marriage consistent with their desires and beliefs. The Equal Protection Clause requires the law recognize all such choices between consenting adults, or none.
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For all you supporters of Gay Marriage: What about polygamy? Narg - 20/10/2012 12:02:06 AM 1671 Views
Legal rights. snoopcester - 20/10/2012 12:14:10 AM 1073 Views
It almost sounds like you are saying... Narg - 20/10/2012 12:31:40 AM 1063 Views
That is what I'm saying it. snoopcester - 20/10/2012 01:07:50 AM 1053 Views
Technically, privileges, not rights. Tom - 20/10/2012 04:16:45 AM 1026 Views
Sure A Deathwatch Guard - 20/10/2012 12:35:53 AM 945 Views
All for it... For adults over the age of 18. *NM* globug0822 - 20/10/2012 01:18:04 AM 622 Views
What about it? Ghavrel - 20/10/2012 01:21:17 AM 1000 Views
+1 *NM* globug0822 - 20/10/2012 01:51:25 AM 658 Views
+2 *NM* ironclad - 20/10/2012 11:18:39 AM 554 Views
should be legal, would be nice for poly people. should include polygyny and polyandry. *NM* temeraire - 20/10/2012 03:29:05 AM 535 Views
poly people? Yunalesca - 20/10/2012 12:44:01 PM 1063 Views
Government needs to stop legislating morality. So yes *NM* Dark Knight - 20/10/2012 03:36:37 AM 509 Views
That's a huge chunk of what government does. Palatine - 20/10/2012 04:35:45 PM 1022 Views
That's not what I'm saying Dark Knight - 21/10/2012 03:21:08 AM 1026 Views
So you're opposed to abortion and gun control then? Welcome aboard! Cannoli - 21/10/2012 06:14:14 AM 994 Views
Why do you keep talking about gay marriage and polygamy in the same sentence.. Amyrlin - 20/10/2012 03:58:26 AM 1024 Views
Get a grip. Your response is just what I tried to avoid. Narg - 20/10/2012 04:33:40 AM 946 Views
The more fool you. Cannoli - 21/10/2012 05:55:30 AM 1075 Views
This, and legal recognition of it, is precisely why marriage has become an Equal Protection issue. Joel - 22/10/2012 03:40:01 PM 1040 Views
Ha! Point. *NM* globug0822 - 20/10/2012 05:40:34 AM 788 Views
Because they are both violations of the paradigm of genuine marriage. Like it or not. Cannoli - 21/10/2012 05:49:32 AM 925 Views
Marriage is always a choice, whatever the motive(s.) Joel - 22/10/2012 04:00:40 PM 999 Views
I have no problem with polygamy being legal, but marriage is a privilege and can be limited to two. Tom - 20/10/2012 04:16:08 AM 1062 Views
The only problem with that is that it was established with a heterosexist assumption Cannoli - 21/10/2012 06:33:32 AM 1057 Views
From a legal perspective, all of your arguments are irrelevant Tom - 21/10/2012 03:12:39 PM 1179 Views
How would you argue for putting it in the same category as race? Burr - 21/10/2012 04:28:12 PM 1053 Views
I wouldn't put it in exactly the same category. Tom - 21/10/2012 08:43:51 PM 1080 Views
This really is blatantly obvious, but still it might bear repeating... Legolas - 21/10/2012 04:43:13 PM 999 Views
That limitation is still prejudicial and somewhat arbitrary. Joel - 22/10/2012 04:25:25 PM 1256 Views
Yes, but only if its equal. Multi-people relationships should be more acceptable by society. Aeryn - 20/10/2012 05:15:24 AM 1074 Views
On the other hand, marriage also comes from that place. Ghavrel - 20/10/2012 06:11:01 AM 1019 Views
There's a pun to be made from your comment *NM* Larry - 20/10/2012 06:12:53 AM 761 Views
"Polygamy" is the all-inclusive term; whether or not he meant it, he said it. Joel - 22/10/2012 04:31:09 PM 968 Views
I support autogamy in addition to various forms of exogenic relationships Larry - 20/10/2012 05:49:07 AM 961 Views
Have you seen the Glee episode where Sue Sylvester conducts a marriage of herself to herself? *NM* Tim - 20/10/2012 09:50:32 AM 515 Views
I am fine with it if all existing parties to the marriage consent to each addition. Tim - 20/10/2012 10:10:19 AM 1130 Views
I got no opinion on it. LordPerrin - 20/10/2012 12:51:43 PM 1097 Views
The case for polygamy has really weakened rather than strenghtened, you might say. Legolas - 20/10/2012 03:53:34 PM 1190 Views
The idea of a group marriage makes me uncomfortable kHz1000 - 20/10/2012 04:19:48 PM 956 Views
I have no problem with it, but as Amy says, it's not really relevant. *NM* beetnemesis - 20/10/2012 05:40:50 PM 539 Views
As long as it is equitable imlad - 20/10/2012 05:55:57 PM 976 Views
Legalize polygamy and create a familymaking process, but don't cover polygamy under marriage. Burr - 20/10/2012 10:14:58 PM 986 Views
The state shouldn't even recognize marriage beyond name changes anyway Isaac - 21/10/2012 03:52:40 AM 1031 Views
Indeed Cannoli - 21/10/2012 06:04:41 AM 1081 Views
I don't give a damn what you call it. That's your business. Burr - 21/10/2012 06:17:40 AM 1381 Views
And so? Cannoli - 21/10/2012 07:05:08 AM 1003 Views
Re: And so? Burr - 21/10/2012 04:10:19 PM 1202 Views
So can we call it garriage, give the same legal effect and call it good? *NM* Narg - 22/10/2012 03:28:33 AM 511 Views
That would be fine with me, if that's really what came about. Burr - 22/10/2012 04:35:24 AM 982 Views
According to your argument we could afford gay couples the same legal privileges... Narg - 22/10/2012 03:20:17 AM 939 Views
Yes! We just don't trust you guys to actually do that. Burr - 22/10/2012 04:36:43 AM 1061 Views
"...separate educational facilities are inherently unequal." Joel - 22/10/2012 04:45:31 PM 999 Views
That may well be the ideal solution. And also the most ironically amusing in how it would fail. Burr - 22/10/2012 07:35:05 PM 976 Views
We already went there and did that in '04, and yes, it was funny as f--k. Joel - 22/10/2012 09:51:49 PM 919 Views
Agreed in principle, but custody/cohabitation/assets go well beyond name change. Joel - 22/10/2012 04:37:09 PM 974 Views
This is the sort of thing that *needs* to be about principle Isaac - 23/10/2012 04:54:10 AM 941 Views
Parental, property and other rights need government protection, and thus government involvement. Joel - 23/10/2012 05:14:37 AM 943 Views
None of which need hinge on marriage Isaac - 23/10/2012 05:54:07 AM 904 Views
In the legal sense of marriage, yeah, they kinda do. Joel - 23/10/2012 07:20:38 AM 952 Views
Legal contracts must be open to all consenting adults, or none. Joel - 22/10/2012 03:11:55 PM 1078 Views
You are correct, yet your reasoning is flawed. HyogaRott - 23/10/2012 03:20:25 PM 975 Views
Again, the Equal Protection Clause has far less force on private entities than on government. Joel - 23/10/2012 03:52:06 PM 893 Views
Much less force, yes. Burr - 23/10/2012 04:15:03 PM 894 Views
The crux is "If it's my business, it's my business." Joel - 23/10/2012 04:43:25 PM 1015 Views
Re: The crux is "If it's my business, it's my business." Burr - 23/10/2012 07:15:17 PM 927 Views
Like you said: By referring to "all invididuals" (or, better, "persons" or "citizens.") Joel - 24/10/2012 04:14:55 PM 945 Views
But we know very well that it doesn't have dire commercial consequences. Burr - 25/10/2012 07:17:55 PM 981 Views
Depends on where you look, and for how long. Joel - 26/10/2012 01:19:00 AM 1023 Views
+1 *NM* HyogaRott - 23/10/2012 07:36:46 PM 454 Views
No the analogy is not exact, nor legally the same... HyogaRott - 23/10/2012 07:33:25 PM 909 Views
Analogy is not equality, only similarity. Joel - 24/10/2012 04:37:29 PM 1157 Views
We aren't asking for something better or different. Burr - 23/10/2012 04:27:04 PM 964 Views
yeah, it is very circular. HyogaRott - 23/10/2012 07:44:33 PM 1017 Views
I have several friends who practice polyamory, if they wanted to marry I would support it. *NM* Jojjo - 24/10/2012 06:47:58 PM 526 Views
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