Agreed in principle, but custody/cohabitation/assets go well beyond name change.
Joel Send a noteboard - 22/10/2012 04:37:09 PM
Nobody should be bound to define their mutually consensual relationships with other adults of sound mind unless the state has a undeniably clear reason to butt their noses in, like a legal contract for custody or cohabitation or shared assets, etc. Now religion or personal? Different story, plural marriage is immoral in my opinion and nobody has a right to make me personally recognize it as valid.
That is kind of the problem: The law confers, via marriage, privileges (and obligations) in those areas, and the Equal Protection Clause constitutionally prohibits doing so for some but not others.
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For all you supporters of Gay Marriage: What about polygamy?
- 20/10/2012 12:02:06 AM
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Legal rights.
- 20/10/2012 12:14:10 AM
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should be legal, would be nice for poly people. should include polygyny and polyandry. *NM*
- 20/10/2012 03:29:05 AM
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Government needs to stop legislating morality. So yes *NM*
- 20/10/2012 03:36:37 AM
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That's a huge chunk of what government does.
- 20/10/2012 04:35:45 PM
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That's not what I'm saying
- 21/10/2012 03:21:08 AM
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So you're opposed to abortion and gun control then? Welcome aboard!
- 21/10/2012 06:14:14 AM
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Why do you keep talking about gay marriage and polygamy in the same sentence..
- 20/10/2012 03:58:26 AM
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Get a grip. Your response is just what I tried to avoid.
- 20/10/2012 04:33:40 AM
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The more fool you.
- 21/10/2012 05:55:30 AM
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This, and legal recognition of it, is precisely why marriage has become an Equal Protection issue.
- 22/10/2012 03:40:01 PM
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*NM*
Because they are both violations of the paradigm of genuine marriage. Like it or not.
- 21/10/2012 05:49:32 AM
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I have no problem with polygamy being legal, but marriage is a privilege and can be limited to two.
- 20/10/2012 04:16:08 AM
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The only problem with that is that it was established with a heterosexist assumption
- 21/10/2012 06:33:32 AM
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From a legal perspective, all of your arguments are irrelevant
- 21/10/2012 03:12:39 PM
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This really is blatantly obvious, but still it might bear repeating...
- 21/10/2012 04:43:13 PM
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Yes, but only if its equal. Multi-people relationships should be more acceptable by society.
- 20/10/2012 05:15:24 AM
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*NM*
"Polygamy" is the all-inclusive term; whether or not he meant it, he said it.
- 22/10/2012 04:31:09 PM
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I support autogamy in addition to various forms of exogenic relationships
- 20/10/2012 05:49:07 AM
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Have you seen the Glee episode where Sue Sylvester conducts a marriage of herself to herself? *NM*
- 20/10/2012 09:50:32 AM
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I am fine with it if all existing parties to the marriage consent to each addition.
- 20/10/2012 10:10:19 AM
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The case for polygamy has really weakened rather than strenghtened, you might say.
- 20/10/2012 03:53:34 PM
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I have no problem with it, but as Amy says, it's not really relevant. *NM*
- 20/10/2012 05:40:50 PM
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Legalize polygamy and create a familymaking process, but don't cover polygamy under marriage.
- 20/10/2012 10:14:58 PM
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The state shouldn't even recognize marriage beyond name changes anyway
- 21/10/2012 03:52:40 AM
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Indeed
- 21/10/2012 06:04:41 AM
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I don't give a damn what you call it. That's your business.
- 21/10/2012 06:17:40 AM
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And so?
- 21/10/2012 07:05:08 AM
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Re: And so?
- 21/10/2012 04:10:19 PM
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So can we call it garriage, give the same legal effect and call it good? *NM*
- 22/10/2012 03:28:33 AM
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According to your argument we could afford gay couples the same legal privileges...
- 22/10/2012 03:20:17 AM
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"...separate educational facilities are inherently unequal."
- 22/10/2012 04:45:31 PM
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That may well be the ideal solution. And also the most ironically amusing in how it would fail.
- 22/10/2012 07:35:05 PM
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We already went there and did that in '04, and yes, it was funny as f--k.
- 22/10/2012 09:51:49 PM
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Agreed in principle, but custody/cohabitation/assets go well beyond name change.
- 22/10/2012 04:37:09 PM
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This is the sort of thing that *needs* to be about principle
- 23/10/2012 04:54:10 AM
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Parental, property and other rights need government protection, and thus government involvement.
- 23/10/2012 05:14:37 AM
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Legal contracts must be open to all consenting adults, or none.
- 22/10/2012 03:11:55 PM
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You are correct, yet your reasoning is flawed.
- 23/10/2012 03:20:25 PM
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Again, the Equal Protection Clause has far less force on private entities than on government.
- 23/10/2012 03:52:06 PM
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Much less force, yes.
- 23/10/2012 04:15:03 PM
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The crux is "If it's my business, it's my business."
- 23/10/2012 04:43:25 PM
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Re: The crux is "If it's my business, it's my business."
- 23/10/2012 07:15:17 PM
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Like you said: By referring to "all invididuals" (or, better, "persons" or "citizens.")
- 24/10/2012 04:14:55 PM
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But we know very well that it doesn't have dire commercial consequences.
- 25/10/2012 07:17:55 PM
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I have several friends who practice polyamory, if they wanted to marry I would support it. *NM*
- 24/10/2012 06:47:58 PM
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