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Once again, bullshit. Tom Send a noteboard - 20/11/2009 06:09:31 PM
Your definitions of "war" and "military" are outdated and unrealistic. The war against al Qaeda and the Taliban is a proper war, being conducted by our armed forces.

The combatants rightly fall under the category of "unlawful combatants" for purposes of the Geneva Conventions. This means that, generally, they may be tried by military tribunals and sentenced unless they are on US soil when captured, though it may be that some such individuals could be tried in military tribunals nonetheless (if there were evidence they acted as spies or saboteurs, for example).

The only issue, from a Constitutional standpoint, is whether or not they had rights which were violated. The Supreme Court ruled, in Boumediene v. Bush, that they had a right to make habeas corpus petitions. This does not translate into an automatic right to a trial in Federal Court, however. It merely states that the 2006 law, as written, did not extend those rights or make a valid suspension under current law.

The proper venue is a military tribunal and the proper outcome is summary execution. None of this violates the Constitution.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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No need to interrogate Osama bin Laden? - 20/11/2009 12:48:27 AM 1346 Views
oO uhm, what? - 20/11/2009 12:54:13 AM 820 Views
Yeah, a lot of people were fuzzy on that till this started. - 20/11/2009 09:30:39 AM 836 Views
on the other hand, we're more than willing to take them out back with a confession. - 20/11/2009 06:34:12 PM 844 Views
As it seems we will. - 24/11/2009 09:41:18 AM 846 Views
New York is now asking for $75 MILLION for the KSM trial - 20/11/2009 01:43:26 AM 773 Views
Its to salve their conscinse - 20/11/2009 01:55:08 AM 766 Views
That's exactly the problem! - 20/11/2009 01:58:37 AM 768 Views
If this trial were being held in any other country - 20/11/2009 01:56:07 AM 778 Views
It's a terrible precedent no matter how you look at it. - 20/11/2009 02:13:46 AM 797 Views
It IS a terrible precdent, hence you and others are citing it 65 years after WWII ended. - 20/11/2009 09:23:45 AM 683 Views
Spare me the bullshit. - 20/11/2009 01:57:16 PM 695 Views
I will if you will. - 20/11/2009 02:55:30 PM 815 Views
No, you won't. You never will. - 20/11/2009 06:14:30 PM 721 Views
You're putting your cart before your horse is the problem. - 23/11/2009 05:40:46 AM 789 Views
No, that's not right. You don't read very closely. - 23/11/2009 02:21:54 PM 713 Views
In this case my reading comprehension is more than adequate. - 24/11/2009 09:16:39 AM 733 Views
You don't think this is a military struggle? Wow. - 20/11/2009 02:52:26 PM 754 Views
Allow me to point out... - 20/11/2009 03:02:33 PM 737 Views
Well, Timothy McVeigh was in OUR Army. - 20/11/2009 03:55:18 PM 856 Views
That's the thing, they aren't a terrorist group - 20/11/2009 04:54:31 PM 779 Views
It would help if you would offer any argument in favour of your stance. - 20/11/2009 08:43:08 PM 712 Views
I only use the word army cause I can't think of a better one - 21/11/2009 04:32:01 AM 770 Views
Yes. "Terrorist group". - 21/11/2009 12:02:04 PM 785 Views
Yeah I guess you're right - 22/11/2009 01:34:34 AM 704 Views
Military struggles involve militaries. - 20/11/2009 03:23:14 PM 892 Views
Once again, bullshit. - 20/11/2009 06:09:31 PM 845 Views
Aaaah, I see; it's a question of who's the master, is it? - 23/11/2009 07:47:43 AM 906 Views
You're wasting your time - 23/11/2009 02:24:57 PM 749 Views
This is wrong - 20/11/2009 07:41:35 PM 736 Views
We're a long way from the shore of Tripoli. - 23/11/2009 05:59:19 AM 829 Views
Nevertheless, uniforms or a nation is not a requirement - 23/11/2009 03:09:22 PM 754 Views
Rightly or wrongly, I disagree. - 24/11/2009 08:48:25 AM 812 Views
That is bad - 21/11/2009 12:31:04 AM 730 Views
You're not going far enough, man. - 20/11/2009 11:03:08 AM 775 Views
Blah blah blah blah blah *NM* - 20/11/2009 01:57:39 PM 339 Views
I just can't imagine how they expect to get a fair trial. - 20/11/2009 03:17:28 AM 705 Views
The Code of Conduct - 20/11/2009 07:23:02 PM 852 Views
The mention of God is interesting. *NM* - 21/11/2009 05:24:14 AM 467 Views
Your little diatribe in the beginning only makes me glad... - 22/11/2009 05:32:57 AM 873 Views
I understand your "jihadist narrative" - 22/11/2009 06:36:41 PM 897 Views
enemy combatants and terrorists - 23/11/2009 08:03:25 PM 824 Views
They're not different because from the Third World, but because terrorists. - 24/11/2009 08:09:13 AM 940 Views
not every soldier in history has worn a uniform - 24/11/2009 11:00:34 PM 647 Views
One example would be Ethan Allen and his Green Mountain Boys - 25/11/2009 06:23:08 PM 809 Views
Just for fun, let's call them fundamentalist vigilantes. *NM* - 24/11/2009 11:12:09 PM 311 Views
Works for me. - 01/12/2009 09:12:29 AM 765 Views

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