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Once again, bullshit. Tom Send a noteboard - 20/11/2009 06:09:31 PM
Your definitions of "war" and "military" are outdated and unrealistic. The war against al Qaeda and the Taliban is a proper war, being conducted by our armed forces.

The combatants rightly fall under the category of "unlawful combatants" for purposes of the Geneva Conventions. This means that, generally, they may be tried by military tribunals and sentenced unless they are on US soil when captured, though it may be that some such individuals could be tried in military tribunals nonetheless (if there were evidence they acted as spies or saboteurs, for example).

The only issue, from a Constitutional standpoint, is whether or not they had rights which were violated. The Supreme Court ruled, in Boumediene v. Bush, that they had a right to make habeas corpus petitions. This does not translate into an automatic right to a trial in Federal Court, however. It merely states that the 2006 law, as written, did not extend those rights or make a valid suspension under current law.

The proper venue is a military tribunal and the proper outcome is summary execution. None of this violates the Constitution.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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No need to interrogate Osama bin Laden? - 20/11/2009 12:48:27 AM 1369 Views
oO uhm, what? - 20/11/2009 12:54:13 AM 839 Views
Yeah, a lot of people were fuzzy on that till this started. - 20/11/2009 09:30:39 AM 868 Views
on the other hand, we're more than willing to take them out back with a confession. - 20/11/2009 06:34:12 PM 870 Views
As it seems we will. - 24/11/2009 09:41:18 AM 869 Views
New York is now asking for $75 MILLION for the KSM trial - 20/11/2009 01:43:26 AM 794 Views
Its to salve their conscinse - 20/11/2009 01:55:08 AM 783 Views
That's exactly the problem! - 20/11/2009 01:58:37 AM 785 Views
If this trial were being held in any other country - 20/11/2009 01:56:07 AM 801 Views
It's a terrible precedent no matter how you look at it. - 20/11/2009 02:13:46 AM 814 Views
It IS a terrible precdent, hence you and others are citing it 65 years after WWII ended. - 20/11/2009 09:23:45 AM 704 Views
Spare me the bullshit. - 20/11/2009 01:57:16 PM 718 Views
I will if you will. - 20/11/2009 02:55:30 PM 837 Views
No, you won't. You never will. - 20/11/2009 06:14:30 PM 748 Views
You're putting your cart before your horse is the problem. - 23/11/2009 05:40:46 AM 808 Views
No, that's not right. You don't read very closely. - 23/11/2009 02:21:54 PM 742 Views
In this case my reading comprehension is more than adequate. - 24/11/2009 09:16:39 AM 756 Views
You don't think this is a military struggle? Wow. - 20/11/2009 02:52:26 PM 779 Views
Allow me to point out... - 20/11/2009 03:02:33 PM 759 Views
Well, Timothy McVeigh was in OUR Army. - 20/11/2009 03:55:18 PM 876 Views
That's the thing, they aren't a terrorist group - 20/11/2009 04:54:31 PM 801 Views
It would help if you would offer any argument in favour of your stance. - 20/11/2009 08:43:08 PM 729 Views
I only use the word army cause I can't think of a better one - 21/11/2009 04:32:01 AM 788 Views
Yes. "Terrorist group". - 21/11/2009 12:02:04 PM 801 Views
Yeah I guess you're right - 22/11/2009 01:34:34 AM 723 Views
Military struggles involve militaries. - 20/11/2009 03:23:14 PM 913 Views
Once again, bullshit. - 20/11/2009 06:09:31 PM 867 Views
Aaaah, I see; it's a question of who's the master, is it? - 23/11/2009 07:47:43 AM 930 Views
You're wasting your time - 23/11/2009 02:24:57 PM 773 Views
This is wrong - 20/11/2009 07:41:35 PM 762 Views
We're a long way from the shore of Tripoli. - 23/11/2009 05:59:19 AM 859 Views
Nevertheless, uniforms or a nation is not a requirement - 23/11/2009 03:09:22 PM 776 Views
Rightly or wrongly, I disagree. - 24/11/2009 08:48:25 AM 836 Views
That is bad - 21/11/2009 12:31:04 AM 758 Views
You're not going far enough, man. - 20/11/2009 11:03:08 AM 802 Views
Blah blah blah blah blah *NM* - 20/11/2009 01:57:39 PM 350 Views
I just can't imagine how they expect to get a fair trial. - 20/11/2009 03:17:28 AM 721 Views
The Code of Conduct - 20/11/2009 07:23:02 PM 871 Views
The mention of God is interesting. *NM* - 21/11/2009 05:24:14 AM 482 Views
Your little diatribe in the beginning only makes me glad... - 22/11/2009 05:32:57 AM 894 Views
I understand your "jihadist narrative" - 22/11/2009 06:36:41 PM 915 Views
enemy combatants and terrorists - 23/11/2009 08:03:25 PM 844 Views
They're not different because from the Third World, but because terrorists. - 24/11/2009 08:09:13 AM 965 Views
not every soldier in history has worn a uniform - 24/11/2009 11:00:34 PM 665 Views
One example would be Ethan Allen and his Green Mountain Boys - 25/11/2009 06:23:08 PM 830 Views
Just for fun, let's call them fundamentalist vigilantes. *NM* - 24/11/2009 11:12:09 PM 320 Views
Works for me. - 01/12/2009 09:12:29 AM 784 Views

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