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I'd be happy to tax top "earners" more and suffer Europes economic "collapse. " Joel Send a noteboard - 03/09/2009 04:30:31 AM
But, OK, fine; say you're right and a government healthcare system would be worthless to anyone: Private insurance will still be out there, and if that's so much better that's where people will go. Socialism doesn't kill capitalism, it improves it.
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For Europeans who don't understand why Americans are against ObamaCare - 03/09/2009 04:24:35 AM 1257 Views
I'd be happy to tax top "earners" more and suffer Europes economic "collapse. " - 03/09/2009 04:30:31 AM 728 Views
The US will never work with socialism. - 03/09/2009 04:40:21 AM 795 Views
Re: The US will never work with socialism. - 03/09/2009 04:58:47 AM 781 Views
I don't think the mistrust of the government is really all that overblown - 03/09/2009 05:04:34 AM 714 Views
It's advanced beyond what it was during the Revolution, I think. - 03/09/2009 05:18:22 AM 753 Views
I would say it's grown with the government - 03/09/2009 05:23:52 AM 734 Views
Re: I don't think the mistrust of the government is really all that overblown - 04/09/2009 03:30:23 AM 678 Views
If I lived in France I wouldn't trust the Government either. - 04/09/2009 03:44:55 AM 744 Views
*laughs* the point is taken. *NM* - 04/09/2009 04:24:07 AM 472 Views
Re: The US will never work with socialism. - 04/09/2009 03:28:24 AM 838 Views
How much more can we really tax the wealthy?? - 03/09/2009 04:41:14 AM 639 Views
Sadly, I think going back to the Clinton rates would help - 03/09/2009 04:42:54 AM 617 Views
I'm ok with that....not super excited....but ok with it - 03/09/2009 04:57:32 AM 638 Views
A lot; before Reagans "reforms" we already taxed them less than any other industrialized state did. - 03/09/2009 05:06:00 AM 756 Views
I'm in the lower-middle class tax bracket - 03/09/2009 05:13:39 AM 682 Views
It's both, IMHO. - 03/09/2009 05:29:41 AM 606 Views
I hear a lot of socialism coming from you..... - 03/09/2009 05:19:08 AM 619 Views
Re: I hear a lot of socialism coming from you..... - 03/09/2009 05:40:32 AM 702 Views
Nice non-answer answer..... - 03/09/2009 05:52:04 AM 712 Views
You want detailed answers that require detailed data I don't have. - 03/09/2009 06:06:55 AM 769 Views
Here are some facts and analyses..... - 03/09/2009 02:40:22 PM 820 Views
The Heritage Foundation, huh? - 03/09/2009 03:01:17 PM 827 Views
The non-working wealthy? Please quantify..... - 03/09/2009 03:31:58 PM 787 Views
Paris Hilton? - 04/09/2009 03:43:19 AM 693 Views
You're so full of shit on this issue I don't know where to begin. - 04/09/2009 03:15:55 AM 803 Views
Re: You're so full of shit on this issue I don't know where to begin. - 04/09/2009 03:59:21 AM 888 Views
Less than 200 people were said to be US persons with Swiss accounts - 04/09/2009 04:16:24 AM 691 Views
And yet account for many millions of dollars; what does that say...? - 04/09/2009 04:21:57 AM 683 Views
It's statistically insignificant and your hyperbole is reminiscent of screaming guests on CNN. - 04/09/2009 02:07:31 PM 619 Views
Well, look at this way: - 04/09/2009 02:24:03 PM 747 Views
That's not a solution. - 05/09/2009 02:39:12 AM 750 Views
The Soviets weren't socialist, or even communist, so it's a false comparison. - 05/09/2009 03:09:06 AM 698 Views
Okay, now you've just gone into Kool-aid drinking territory. - 05/09/2009 04:32:07 AM 816 Views
Communist THEORY is predicated on democratic participation at every level,totally absent in the USSR - 05/09/2009 04:55:00 AM 939 Views
FINALLY!!! - 07/09/2009 10:22:53 AM 730 Views
Ever heard of the 20-80 rule? - 04/09/2009 04:28:54 AM 612 Views
Yes, and 90% of people are idiots. - 05/09/2009 02:41:35 AM 915 Views
Re: Yes, and 90% of people are idiots. - 07/09/2009 10:09:30 AM 735 Views
Top earners? Please define.....what income and how much more? *NM* - 03/09/2009 04:52:25 AM 488 Views
That would be open to definition, and should change with inflation. - 03/09/2009 05:13:02 AM 869 Views
What is your justification for taking over 50% of anyone's income? - 03/09/2009 05:28:22 AM 809 Views
That's a good example of why I say the rate has to be set to cost of living. - 03/09/2009 05:50:16 AM 831 Views
Still no comment on the fact that 40% of Americans don't pay any income taxes? - 03/09/2009 02:32:12 PM 752 Views
To what 40% do you refer? - 03/09/2009 02:42:55 PM 612 Views
Dude, you are not making this easy..... - 03/09/2009 03:38:01 PM 652 Views
No one "gets money from the IRS. " - 04/09/2009 02:55:02 AM 659 Views
Actually with EIC you can get money back that you never paid in. - 04/09/2009 02:56:43 AM 650 Views
It MIGHT be possible with the EIC, but in practice few people get more than they paid. - 04/09/2009 03:43:36 AM 703 Views
I don't know, I've known plenty of people that have gotten more back than they paid in - 04/09/2009 03:46:29 AM 782 Views
A neat trick then. - 04/09/2009 04:09:58 AM 778 Views
To be fair - 04/09/2009 04:50:20 AM 714 Views
Ah, gotcha. - 04/09/2009 04:53:58 AM 730 Views
Yet another example of your ignorance on tax policy. - 04/09/2009 03:19:39 AM 601 Views
The word I notice is "welfare" - 04/09/2009 03:57:01 AM 714 Views
I wouldn't say that's what it means.... - 04/09/2009 04:02:40 AM 720 Views
It's what welfare means to me... - 04/09/2009 04:32:17 AM 728 Views
I was just talking about EIC as a form of welfare, not welfare welfare. *NM* - 04/09/2009 04:45:13 AM 418 Views
yes, I get that now. *NM* - 04/09/2009 05:02:53 AM 404 Views
*NM* - 04/09/2009 05:14:01 AM 399 Views
Not necessarily - 04/09/2009 04:11:41 AM 649 Views
*shrugs* I have a soft heart. *NM* - 04/09/2009 04:30:52 AM 411 Views
It's a credit for people who file a return on income that's been taxed. - 04/09/2009 04:19:57 AM 655 Views
It is only for the WORKING poor, yes. - 04/09/2009 02:12:55 PM 643 Views
Mean it may be, but hardly illegal. - 04/09/2009 02:31:16 PM 669 Views
How does the business benefit? - 04/09/2009 04:54:27 PM 672 Views
I didn't realize you meant literal withholding. - 05/09/2009 03:03:32 AM 691 Views
That's a no-no, Joel - 03/09/2009 07:32:03 AM 656 Views
Europe impresses me for one simple reason: - 03/09/2009 09:21:28 AM 707 Views
No real comments, just 100% agree with you....plus the $12 trillion is terrifying to me. *NM* - 03/09/2009 04:33:39 AM 307 Views
If that scares you, check this out! - 03/09/2009 04:48:56 AM 797 Views
Excellent post - the US government is not capable of running HC..... - 03/09/2009 04:40:19 AM 601 Views
There is one thing the government did right - 03/09/2009 04:41:36 AM 711 Views
The bailout, some of it, was necessary..... - 03/09/2009 04:51:03 AM 713 Views
I still think it was too one sided. - 03/09/2009 05:21:45 AM 744 Views
It depends on your level of cynicism - 03/09/2009 05:38:53 AM 771 Views
when have they ever cut the fat? - 03/09/2009 08:35:36 PM 696 Views
Contrary to popular belief, they are quite good at it - 03/09/2009 09:05:15 PM 723 Views
Well there is only one catch *NM* - 03/09/2009 10:56:00 PM 398 Views
This doesn't make sense to me. - 03/09/2009 08:33:18 AM 699 Views
The key phrase is "should be. " - 03/09/2009 09:38:15 AM 869 Views
Re: The key phrase is "should be. " - 03/09/2009 09:47:39 AM 755 Views
That sounds like a good stop gap to me. - 03/09/2009 09:50:57 AM 765 Views
In fairness, most Europeans don't seem to realize what ObamaCare is. - 03/09/2009 02:34:01 PM 746 Views
What makes you think we do? - 03/09/2009 09:11:06 PM 759 Views
Oh, you don't either. I thought that went without saying. *NM* - 03/09/2009 09:25:54 PM 412 Views
As far as most people I know are concerned, opposition to ObamaCare isn't the issue. - 03/09/2009 11:04:36 PM 837 Views
It's hard not to be horrified with a government as wasteful as ours - 03/09/2009 11:24:59 PM 613 Views
I can understand horror of governments. - 03/09/2009 11:30:23 PM 609 Views
a bit, yes. *NM* - 04/09/2009 04:08:37 AM 428 Views
For Americans who don't understand why Canadians like their public healthcare. - 04/09/2009 04:23:11 AM 725 Views
Correction - 04/09/2009 04:44:32 AM 721 Views
Re: Correction - 04/09/2009 05:05:11 AM 828 Views
In all honesty.... - 04/09/2009 05:18:23 AM 670 Views
Re: In all honesty.... - 04/09/2009 07:19:28 AM 754 Views
Re: Correction - 04/09/2009 05:24:49 PM 679 Views
Re: Correction - 07/09/2009 10:11:45 AM 871 Views
That's a nice theory. - 04/09/2009 02:49:34 PM 734 Views
It's a fact - 04/09/2009 05:21:59 PM 735 Views
Re: It's a fact - 05/09/2009 03:18:39 AM 684 Views

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