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I'm in the lower-middle class tax bracket Brian Send a noteboard - 03/09/2009 05:13:39 AM
and I don't find the current tax system to be abusive to myself or to people that make less. The people that make the most use of the programs that the government spends the most money on are not the people that are paying for them. People in my tax bracket, and those below me, should be willing to pick up some of the tab, because after all, they are the ones using the programs.

Does it make sense to tax the wealthy more than the poor? Yes, they can afford it more than someone who makes 18k a year can, but to me at some point the answer is not keep raising taxes on everyone, it should be to reform the spending that's taking place, and ease the tax burden on everyone.
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For Europeans who don't understand why Americans are against ObamaCare Tom - 03/09/2009 04:24:35 AM 1280 Views
I'd be happy to tax top "earners" more and suffer Europes economic "collapse. " Joel - 03/09/2009 04:30:31 AM 746 Views
The US will never work with socialism. Tom - 03/09/2009 04:40:21 AM 813 Views
Re: The US will never work with socialism. Joel - 03/09/2009 04:58:47 AM 801 Views
I don't think the mistrust of the government is really all that overblown Brian - 03/09/2009 05:04:34 AM 733 Views
It's advanced beyond what it was during the Revolution, I think. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:18:22 AM 771 Views
I would say it's grown with the government Brian - 03/09/2009 05:23:52 AM 755 Views
The key is that government shouldn't be heavily involved in personal lives. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:58:39 AM 782 Views
Re: I don't think the mistrust of the government is really all that overblown Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 03:30:23 AM 698 Views
If I lived in France I wouldn't trust the Government either. Brian - 04/09/2009 03:44:55 AM 764 Views
*laughs* the point is taken. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:24:07 AM 484 Views
Re: The US will never work with socialism. Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 03:28:24 AM 857 Views
How much more can we really tax the wealthy?? Brian - 03/09/2009 04:41:14 AM 661 Views
Sadly, I think going back to the Clinton rates would help Tom - 03/09/2009 04:42:54 AM 637 Views
I'm ok with that....not super excited....but ok with it Brian - 03/09/2009 04:57:32 AM 654 Views
A lot; before Reagans "reforms" we already taxed them less than any other industrialized state did. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:06:00 AM 777 Views
I'm in the lower-middle class tax bracket Brian - 03/09/2009 05:13:39 AM 701 Views
It's both, IMHO. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:29:41 AM 623 Views
I hear a lot of socialism coming from you..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 05:19:08 AM 638 Views
Re: I hear a lot of socialism coming from you..... Joel - 03/09/2009 05:40:32 AM 725 Views
Nice non-answer answer..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 05:52:04 AM 734 Views
You want detailed answers that require detailed data I don't have. Joel - 03/09/2009 06:06:55 AM 789 Views
Here are some facts and analyses..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 02:40:22 PM 841 Views
The Heritage Foundation, huh? Joel - 03/09/2009 03:01:17 PM 845 Views
The non-working wealthy? Please quantify..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 03:31:58 PM 811 Views
So you accept the CBOs assessment the House healthcare bill will be $1 trillion over the next decade Joel - 04/09/2009 03:02:13 AM 721 Views
Wow, that was one of the dumbest posts I have ever read..... trzaska2000 - 05/09/2009 05:42:45 AM 759 Views
So you're saying you DON'T proofread...? Joel - 05/09/2009 05:59:49 AM 884 Views
Paris Hilton? Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 03:43:19 AM 712 Views
You're so full of shit on this issue I don't know where to begin. Tom - 04/09/2009 03:15:55 AM 823 Views
Re: You're so full of shit on this issue I don't know where to begin. Joel - 04/09/2009 03:59:21 AM 908 Views
Less than 200 people were said to be US persons with Swiss accounts Сталин - 04/09/2009 04:16:24 AM 711 Views
And yet account for many millions of dollars; what does that say...? Joel - 04/09/2009 04:21:57 AM 703 Views
It's statistically insignificant and your hyperbole is reminiscent of screaming guests on CNN. Сталин - 04/09/2009 02:07:31 PM 638 Views
Well, look at this way: Joel - 04/09/2009 02:24:03 PM 769 Views
That's not a solution. Сталин - 05/09/2009 02:39:12 AM 770 Views
The Soviets weren't socialist, or even communist, so it's a false comparison. Joel - 05/09/2009 03:09:06 AM 717 Views
Okay, now you've just gone into Kool-aid drinking territory. Сталин - 05/09/2009 04:32:07 AM 836 Views
Communist THEORY is predicated on democratic participation at every level,totally absent in the USSR Joel - 05/09/2009 04:55:00 AM 955 Views
FINALLY!!! Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 10:22:53 AM 750 Views
Ever heard of the 20-80 rule? Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:28:54 AM 631 Views
Yes, and 90% of people are idiots. Сталин - 05/09/2009 02:41:35 AM 935 Views
Re: Yes, and 90% of people are idiots. Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 10:09:30 AM 752 Views
Top earners? Please define.....what income and how much more? *NM* trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 04:52:25 AM 498 Views
That would be open to definition, and should change with inflation. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:13:02 AM 888 Views
What is your justification for taking over 50% of anyone's income? trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 05:28:22 AM 831 Views
That's a good example of why I say the rate has to be set to cost of living. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:50:16 AM 849 Views
Still no comment on the fact that 40% of Americans don't pay any income taxes? trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 02:32:12 PM 769 Views
To what 40% do you refer? Joel - 03/09/2009 02:42:55 PM 633 Views
Dude, you are not making this easy..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 03:38:01 PM 669 Views
No one "gets money from the IRS. " Joel - 04/09/2009 02:55:02 AM 678 Views
Actually with EIC you can get money back that you never paid in. Brian - 04/09/2009 02:56:43 AM 668 Views
It MIGHT be possible with the EIC, but in practice few people get more than they paid. Joel - 04/09/2009 03:43:36 AM 723 Views
I don't know, I've known plenty of people that have gotten more back than they paid in Brian - 04/09/2009 03:46:29 AM 800 Views
A neat trick then. Joel - 04/09/2009 04:09:58 AM 797 Views
To be fair Brian - 04/09/2009 04:50:20 AM 735 Views
Ah, gotcha. Joel - 04/09/2009 04:53:58 AM 750 Views
Yet another example of your ignorance on tax policy. Tom - 04/09/2009 03:19:39 AM 617 Views
The word I notice is "welfare" Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 03:57:01 AM 734 Views
I wouldn't say that's what it means.... Brian - 04/09/2009 04:02:40 AM 740 Views
It's what welfare means to me... Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:32:17 AM 748 Views
I was just talking about EIC as a form of welfare, not welfare welfare. *NM* Brian - 04/09/2009 04:45:13 AM 426 Views
yes, I get that now. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 05:02:53 AM 412 Views
*NM* Brian - 04/09/2009 05:14:01 AM 407 Views
Not necessarily Сталин - 04/09/2009 04:11:41 AM 671 Views
*shrugs* I have a soft heart. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:30:52 AM 419 Views
It's a credit for people who file a return on income that's been taxed. Joel - 04/09/2009 04:19:57 AM 674 Views
It is only for the WORKING poor, yes. Сталин - 04/09/2009 02:12:55 PM 662 Views
Mean it may be, but hardly illegal. Joel - 04/09/2009 02:31:16 PM 689 Views
How does the business benefit? Сталин - 04/09/2009 04:54:27 PM 690 Views
I didn't realize you meant literal withholding. Joel - 05/09/2009 03:03:32 AM 709 Views
That's a no-no, Joel AgentOrange - 03/09/2009 07:32:03 AM 674 Views
Europe impresses me for one simple reason: Joel - 03/09/2009 09:21:28 AM 727 Views
No real comments, just 100% agree with you....plus the $12 trillion is terrifying to me. *NM* Brian - 03/09/2009 04:33:39 AM 316 Views
If that scares you, check this out! trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 04:48:56 AM 815 Views
Excellent post - the US government is not capable of running HC..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 04:40:19 AM 618 Views
There is one thing the government did right Tom - 03/09/2009 04:41:36 AM 732 Views
The bailout, some of it, was necessary..... trzaska2000 - 03/09/2009 04:51:03 AM 732 Views
I still think it was too one sided. Joel - 03/09/2009 05:21:45 AM 763 Views
It depends on your level of cynicism nossy - 03/09/2009 05:38:53 AM 788 Views
when have they ever cut the fat? random thoughts - 03/09/2009 08:35:36 PM 713 Views
Contrary to popular belief, they are quite good at it nossy - 03/09/2009 09:05:15 PM 739 Views
Well there is only one catch *NM* random thoughts - 03/09/2009 10:56:00 PM 404 Views
This doesn't make sense to me. Tim - 03/09/2009 08:33:18 AM 722 Views
The key phrase is "should be. " Joel - 03/09/2009 09:38:15 AM 888 Views
Re: The key phrase is "should be. " Lady Isa Avanderidhril - 03/09/2009 09:47:39 AM 772 Views
That sounds like a good stop gap to me. Joel - 03/09/2009 09:50:57 AM 782 Views
In fairness, most Europeans don't seem to realize what ObamaCare is. Legolas - 03/09/2009 02:34:01 PM 763 Views
What makes you think we do? nossy - 03/09/2009 09:11:06 PM 776 Views
Oh, you don't either. I thought that went without saying. *NM* Legolas - 03/09/2009 09:25:54 PM 420 Views
As far as most people I know are concerned, opposition to ObamaCare isn't the issue. Rebekah - 03/09/2009 11:04:36 PM 856 Views
It's hard not to be horrified with a government as wasteful as ours Brian - 03/09/2009 11:24:59 PM 631 Views
I can understand horror of governments. Rebekah - 03/09/2009 11:30:23 PM 630 Views
a bit, yes. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:08:37 AM 437 Views
For Americans who don't understand why Canadians like their public healthcare. Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 04:23:11 AM 745 Views
Correction ßelals Girl - 04/09/2009 04:44:32 AM 740 Views
Re: Correction Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 05:05:11 AM 856 Views
In all honesty.... Brian - 04/09/2009 05:18:23 AM 691 Views
Re: In all honesty.... Kylia Skydancer - 04/09/2009 07:19:28 AM 773 Views
Re: Correction ßelals Girl - 04/09/2009 05:24:49 PM 697 Views
Re: Correction Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 10:11:45 AM 888 Views
That's a nice theory. Joel - 04/09/2009 02:49:34 PM 752 Views
It's a fact ßelals Girl - 04/09/2009 05:21:59 PM 749 Views
Re: It's a fact Joel - 05/09/2009 03:18:39 AM 703 Views
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