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Yeah, snoopcester Send a noteboard - 15/03/2010 10:43:10 PM
I've said it before, that I think DADT may prove to be something protecting those too stupid to protect themselves, but I also have no problem with it being repealed. In the long run the military will probably be better served by repealing the rule and encouraging more openness and understanding about these issues (I still maintain that the short term could be ugly, but eventually it will get better). There is entirely too much racism, sexism, and homophobia in the U.S. military, and it's something they should really work towards stamping out.


It was (is perhaps) a good in between stage but it has most probably served that purpose (people are now used to the idea, I imagine, that homosexuals can serve, as long as no one talks about it).
In terms of moving to the next stage, I suspect it won't be as bad as it seems (though you might well be factoring that in) - I've lived a fair chunk of my life in the countryside in the UK where the average person is white and straight and there does tend to be a lot of enjoying of bigoted jokes and general comments but in 95% of cases there is always the exception of any actual gay or non-white people they know.
Of course, it will be rough even so but I do recall a couple of the people at this site (or maybe Wotmania) who said they'd served with people who everyone was gay and it had never been an issue.
*MySmiley*

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Lesbian sgt. discharged after police tell military - 13/03/2010 10:43:06 PM 1111 Views
The military is entitled to know about all legal proceedings on its personnel, and the details - 13/03/2010 11:08:18 PM 590 Views
Re: The military is entitled to know about all legal proceedings on its personnel, and the details - 13/03/2010 11:37:30 PM 612 Views
well she did have a third option - 14/03/2010 12:05:06 AM 588 Views
Her marriage was an important detail - 14/03/2010 12:38:29 AM 580 Views
Re: Her marriage was an important detail - 14/03/2010 06:38:05 PM 595 Views
you're assuming the military are treated like actual citizens. - 14/03/2010 06:50:14 PM 559 Views
Basically. *NM* - 14/03/2010 06:54:14 PM 301 Views
really? I was really hoping someone would point out how wrong I was. *NM* - 14/03/2010 07:01:45 PM 317 Views
It's not as bad as it sounds *NM* - 14/03/2010 11:13:05 PM 286 Views
Agreed. It's restrictive at times, but usually fair. *NM* - 15/03/2010 12:30:13 AM 283 Views
Yep, definitely harsh, but also fair *NM* - 15/03/2010 12:54:34 AM 278 Views
Define fair - 15/03/2010 03:08:42 AM 558 Views
actually, I think it is as bad as it sounds. - 15/03/2010 02:14:21 AM 508 Views
Because if you treated soldiers like civilians, they wouldn't be very effective. *NM* - 15/03/2010 02:49:19 AM 283 Views
*shrug* I don't believe it has to be that way. - 15/03/2010 03:40:08 AM 508 Views
- 15/03/2010 10:28:32 PM 752 Views
Matter of perspective - 15/03/2010 03:13:21 AM 561 Views
*snort* there's "Rules" like any job has - 15/03/2010 03:34:51 AM 554 Views
Re: *snort* there's "Rules" like any job has - 15/03/2010 04:02:46 AM 576 Views
if someone is going to sign away their life and limb. - 15/03/2010 04:05:36 AM 654 Views
Re: if someone is going to sign away their life and limb. - 15/03/2010 04:48:03 AM 548 Views
very* - 15/03/2010 04:51:07 AM 629 Views
Re: very* - 15/03/2010 05:02:28 AM 534 Views
You can get out of the military anytime in the first six months or so without any consequences. *NM* - 15/03/2010 05:25:43 AM 360 Views
I'm less concerned about "Getting out" - 15/03/2010 12:31:49 PM 603 Views
Actually, in the contract when you first sign up... - 15/03/2010 05:55:48 PM 730 Views
as long as it's in the contract...and not glossed over. - 15/03/2010 06:00:38 PM 536 Views
The military is different - 14/03/2010 06:53:28 PM 682 Views
Re: The military is different - 15/03/2010 12:34:47 AM 538 Views
You obviously don't get it. There is no right to privacy as a member of the military. Period. - 15/03/2010 12:43:58 AM 522 Views
You two are arguing past each other - 15/03/2010 03:14:28 AM 509 Views
My point remains the same.... - 15/03/2010 06:27:32 AM 544 Views
No no no, I think you're missing a big point - 15/03/2010 02:50:33 AM 532 Views
Actually, I believe she also violated federal law too - 15/03/2010 03:38:26 AM 684 Views
Re: Actually, I believe she also violated federal law too - 15/03/2010 04:01:29 AM 563 Views
Jurisdiction - 15/03/2010 04:21:08 AM 600 Views
Aren't they already pursuing across state lines though? - 15/03/2010 04:46:34 AM 552 Views
and you are still missing my main point. - 15/03/2010 03:49:26 AM 557 Views
I don't care about DADT, and I never mentioned it - 15/03/2010 07:15:27 AM 565 Views
Wow...how completely wrong you are. - 15/03/2010 05:42:32 PM 509 Views
You want to cite when that was changed? - 15/03/2010 06:27:47 PM 564 Views
Marriage Question - 15/03/2010 07:26:34 PM 486 Views
Re: Marriage Question - 15/03/2010 07:54:24 PM 531 Views
I can't tell you when it was changed specifically... - 15/03/2010 09:09:46 PM 498 Views
Re: I can't tell you when it was changed specifically... - 15/03/2010 09:15:41 PM 525 Views
wait, why does this military have that right? - 15/03/2010 10:03:14 PM 507 Views
Why does or why should? *NM* - 15/03/2010 10:22:11 PM 288 Views
both, really. *NM* - 15/03/2010 10:28:36 PM 272 Views
Basically what snoop said *NM* - 15/03/2010 11:07:17 PM 258 Views
Can't cite you regs, don't know them and I have been out for a number of years now. - 16/03/2010 12:17:58 AM 477 Views
Re: Can't cite you regs, don't know them and I have been out for a number of years now. - 16/03/2010 12:33:33 AM 511 Views
Somebody brought up a valid point, though... - 16/03/2010 01:01:18 AM 617 Views
Re: Somebody brought up a valid point, though... - 16/03/2010 01:22:36 AM 663 Views
Does that mean you're backtracking on a number of your earlier statements? - 16/03/2010 01:35:49 AM 727 Views
Not really - 16/03/2010 02:07:36 AM 568 Views
Looks like you're missing one of my points too, then. - 16/03/2010 02:40:50 AM 858 Views
Re: Looks like you're missing one of my points too, then. - 16/03/2010 02:57:03 AM 551 Views
Actually she did NOT follow the rules - 14/03/2010 06:04:32 AM 597 Views
Bottom line: The law is stupid. - 15/03/2010 04:20:23 AM 537 Views
A spouse's criminal record can effect a soldier's clearance. - 15/03/2010 05:30:09 AM 651 Views
none? - 15/03/2010 12:36:36 PM 563 Views
Perhaps the bit where the police may have informed the military out of spite. - 15/03/2010 06:30:06 PM 598 Views
see and here's my thing - 15/03/2010 10:04:43 PM 686 Views
Re: see and here's my thing - 15/03/2010 10:45:10 PM 621 Views
i guess that's just me then I tend to tuck important documents into single locations - 15/03/2010 10:47:12 PM 595 Views
Until yesterday - 15/03/2010 11:34:09 PM 500 Views
Re: Until yesterday - 15/03/2010 11:42:37 PM 535 Views
Don't ask, don't tell is stupid and outdated in a modern country. - 15/03/2010 11:02:33 AM 549 Views
Exactly - 15/03/2010 09:04:44 PM 495 Views
Re: Exactly - 15/03/2010 10:11:14 PM 599 Views
Yeah, - 15/03/2010 10:43:10 PM 555 Views

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