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Hiding? nossy Send a noteboard - 23/05/2017 08:58:11 PM

Or possibly the interpretation is myopic.

It may not seem like it, but I did think before replying. None of what I came up with includes hiding, but as I've just finished a very long day with a toddler, I'm not at all inclined to justify myself in what will inevitably become a twenty post Tomversation. I stand by what I said.


View original postWhen billions of dollars a year go to finance an ideology of hatred that believes that people can and should be killed for being Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist, Sikh, Shia, Ahmadi, or atheist, for listening to music, for reading literature, for watching a movie or a play, for dancing, for being gay, for being a woman not dressed as a trash bag, there's a hell of a lot more we can and should do, and it doesn't involve hiding and hoping they won't notice you.

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Terrible thing in Manchester last night. Urza - 23/05/2017 03:34:11 PM 1136 Views
Pogroms Cannoli - 23/05/2017 04:29:06 PM 575 Views
You can't stop psychos from doing psychopathic things. nossy - 23/05/2017 05:40:15 PM 522 Views
I'm not sure i understand. Urza - 23/05/2017 05:54:33 PM 549 Views
That's a quite obtuse answer Tom - 23/05/2017 08:34:20 PM 548 Views
Hiding? nossy - 23/05/2017 08:58:11 PM 601 Views
What do you mean, exactly, by "stop making ourselves targets" then? Tom - 23/05/2017 09:47:43 PM 529 Views
First off, we agree completely on one thing nossy - 23/05/2017 10:51:22 PM 576 Views
What hasn't been consistent about our foreign policy in that region? Tom - 23/05/2017 11:13:57 PM 607 Views
I thought it was obvious that I didn't mean consistently shit. nossy - 23/05/2017 11:36:58 PM 577 Views
It's always about us, then, isn't it? Tom - 24/05/2017 02:34:52 AM 555 Views
For me, it is. nossy - 24/05/2017 07:49:03 AM 559 Views
Don't forget getting an education if you are female *NM* random thoughts - 23/05/2017 09:38:26 PM 302 Views
They might have a point with that one. I haven't seen much value from it. Cannoli - 23/05/2017 09:53:19 PM 500 Views
You are going to get rocks thrown at you *NM* random thoughts - 23/05/2017 10:29:45 PM 266 Views
There aren't many left who would bother. *NM* nossy - 23/05/2017 10:52:14 PM 299 Views
Me and the jihadis - victory by sticking around! *NM* Cannoli - 24/05/2017 11:11:35 AM 297 Views
There aren't very many ways to stop making ourselves a target for the Islamic State. damookster - 23/05/2017 09:04:56 PM 447 Views
I am not willing to give up the kill them all options until we give it a better try *NM* random thoughts - 23/05/2017 09:39:38 PM 315 Views
All DAESH acts of provocation have the same goal damookster - 23/05/2017 06:57:00 PM 498 Views
That reasoning only works if you view Daesh as a monolithic entity, though. Legolas - 23/05/2017 10:02:01 PM 535 Views
The so-called lone wolf attacks are often performed by those unable to go to Syria damookster - 23/05/2017 10:06:08 PM 549 Views
Once again with the monolithic view. Legolas - 23/05/2017 10:21:20 PM 504 Views
Is it possible that rather than me overestimating the depth of devotion... damookster - 23/05/2017 10:33:18 PM 463 Views
I don't say you overestimate it, no doubt for some that's true. But they're not all the same. *NM* Legolas - 23/05/2017 11:12:26 PM 282 Views
As usual, you and I are talking about two different things damookster - 24/05/2017 05:36:31 PM 509 Views
Also, didn't they disavow the whole Dabiq thing when they lost control of the village? *NM* Tom - 23/05/2017 10:29:23 PM 327 Views
I must have missed that, but that sounds about like what I'd expect. *NM* Legolas - 23/05/2017 10:31:03 PM 325 Views
I mean if that would end it once and for all then we should absolutely do that but... Urza - 24/05/2017 05:22:29 PM 570 Views
There are lots of things we can do. There are few we will do. Tom - 23/05/2017 08:46:50 PM 543 Views
Aren't there significant differences between the Salafis and the Islamic State? damookster - 23/05/2017 08:58:35 PM 524 Views
All extremists are Salafis, not every Salafi is an extremist Tom - 23/05/2017 09:54:26 PM 656 Views
Yeah, I get that. damookster - 23/05/2017 10:12:45 PM 564 Views
Advocating non-terrorist Salafism is like advocating sexual abstinence in college Tom - 23/05/2017 10:27:22 PM 499 Views
I was going to ask when I saw your post above... Legolas - 23/05/2017 11:26:33 PM 521 Views
The Saudi royals like us, the people hate us. The Iranian people like us, the Ayatollah hates us. Tom - 24/05/2017 02:56:57 AM 573 Views
See this seems like some common sense stuff to me. How do we get politicians to make good on it? *NM* Urza - 24/05/2017 05:20:15 PM 337 Views
Trump is trying to do some. The 9th Circuit seems to think it can upend all precedent to stop him. Tom - 24/05/2017 09:46:30 PM 550 Views
Picking a concert that would be mostly teenage girls makes it extra disgusting *NM* random thoughts - 23/05/2017 09:37:25 PM 288 Views
Not really. It's a logical extension of the whole rationale. Cannoli - 23/05/2017 09:50:30 PM 590 Views
Yes. Also they believe the more outrageous the attack, the sooner the final war will occur. *NM* damookster - 23/05/2017 10:08:09 PM 284 Views
He said 'extra disgusting'. Not 'less logical'. *NM* Legolas - 23/05/2017 10:29:21 PM 307 Views
I am not sure logic applies to the issue. random thoughts - 23/05/2017 10:41:32 PM 488 Views
I can see that Cannoli - 24/05/2017 11:47:59 AM 556 Views
It makes me wonder about the attacker nossy - 23/05/2017 11:00:40 PM 556 Views
I wonder about what these people sea in a good who wants this kind of thing random thoughts - 24/05/2017 05:58:25 PM 542 Views
It really does. That shit makes the blood boil. *NM* Urza - 24/05/2017 05:23:33 PM 320 Views
Isis Shmisis. Daesh is just the end result of the radicalization of many Muslims. AgentApple - 23/05/2017 11:58:42 PM 527 Views
Blaming the Ottomans, while largely correct, is less satisfying to them. Tom - 24/05/2017 03:21:14 AM 554 Views
Not to mention, the Ottomans are relative latecomers to the Muslims of the region Cannoli - 24/05/2017 11:31:06 AM 730 Views
There's lots of nationalist feeling, surely. Legolas - 24/05/2017 06:48:59 PM 550 Views
Your errors are legion here. Tom - 24/05/2017 10:03:53 PM 533 Views
Really? I see precisely one point which, according to you, is a factual error. Legolas - 26/05/2017 11:41:00 PM 591 Views
You're not looking very hard, then Tom - 27/05/2017 03:23:36 PM 618 Views
At this point we're just arguing about perspective, seems to me. Legolas - 28/05/2017 07:11:55 PM 712 Views
No, I think that you're missing the point Tom - 28/05/2017 09:49:34 PM 450 Views
Alright, I did miss that point. Legolas - 29/05/2017 07:33:36 PM 503 Views
Oh, and now, according to the headlines, the son of Libyan immigrants is a "homegrown" terrorist Cannoli - 24/05/2017 11:33:42 AM 507 Views
You can't do anything Belals Girl - 24/05/2017 05:00:31 PM 515 Views
Be honest. We both know I am a major hardass and you like it. *NM* Urza - 24/05/2017 05:19:21 PM 277 Views
Oh I do ßelals Girl - 25/05/2017 10:27:08 AM 627 Views
My opinion? We (USA) should either bomb ISIS into oblivion or back off and let them kill each other *NM* damookster - 24/05/2017 05:38:37 PM 324 Views
When I see those girl's faces and think about how easily it could be my 11 year old daughter random thoughts - 24/05/2017 05:53:01 PM 540 Views
I would prefer to annihilate them, if possible, without boots on the ground. damookster - 24/05/2017 06:03:49 PM 509 Views
I admit my reaction is as much emotional as rational but boots may be needed random thoughts - 24/05/2017 06:37:51 PM 598 Views
Are you serious? Tom - 28/05/2017 09:56:07 PM 456 Views
There is no tool for not allowing citizens back in the country random thoughts - 29/05/2017 10:11:42 PM 485 Views
Re: There is no tool for not allowing citizens back in the country *NM* random thoughts - 29/05/2017 10:11:52 PM 303 Views
Wow, talk about mission creep hitting after just one (incoherent) message Tom - 30/05/2017 03:07:46 PM 717 Views
Speak for yourself. Legolas - 30/05/2017 06:57:16 PM 542 Views
You have thus argued for the death of education. Tom - 31/05/2017 02:51:11 PM 532 Views
No, I've argued for substance over form. Legolas - 31/05/2017 07:07:28 PM 608 Views
Well, fuck you too then Tom - 02/06/2017 01:43:47 AM 710 Views
Tom, he's dyslexic. Stop being a dick. nossy - 02/06/2017 09:37:27 AM 491 Views
Then he should get grammarly.com or check his fucking writing. Tom - 02/06/2017 10:36:11 PM 430 Views
I'm such a n00b *NM* damookster - 24/05/2017 06:03:50 PM 283 Views
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