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Liposuction isn't an acceptable treatment for anorexia nervosa. AgentApple Send a noteboard - 13/09/2017 11:08:07 AM

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Unless you want to commit to the position that people with mental illness should just deal with "the body they are genetically and biologically predisposed to" (have we abandoned that as a metric that is useful yet? You appear to have jumped to an entirely different set of criteria for what is important), you should probably reassess your argument.

Here are some other things that are "mental issue[s] that make[] people feel bad":

Anxiety
Depression
Bipolar Disorder
Schizophrenia
Paranoid Schizophrenia
Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
Post-traumatic Stress Disorder


On the other hand, I don't know anyone with gender dysphoria so I've got no horse in this race.
There's just been an episode of Rubin Report with Blaire White which talks about this but haven't got around to it yet.

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WHAT. THE. SHIT?! Cannoli - 11/09/2017 11:58:15 PM 1275 Views
As usual, I'm going to breeze past most of the nonsense here. Ghavrel - 12/09/2017 02:27:37 AM 674 Views
Oh, for sure. TyrReborn - 12/09/2017 10:55:59 PM 576 Views
Just like cancer--it's natural, so it can't be bad. Ghavrel - 13/09/2017 12:37:16 AM 535 Views
You say my argument isn't good, so you rebut with... that? TyrReborn - 13/09/2017 02:01:04 AM 564 Views
Are you familiar with the suicide rates of people experiencing dysphoria? Ghavrel - 13/09/2017 02:10:44 AM 500 Views
Sigh TyrReborn - 13/09/2017 04:28:34 AM 612 Views
Actually nossy - 13/09/2017 12:46:03 PM 470 Views
You can't change your sex. Tom - 13/09/2017 02:06:05 PM 861 Views
I'm not talking about DNA. nossy - 13/09/2017 02:55:26 PM 475 Views
I wouldn't care, either, if not for the demand for official recognition. Tom - 13/09/2017 03:41:34 PM 612 Views
What are they asking for that bothers you? *NM* nossy - 13/09/2017 04:07:19 PM 299 Views
He repeatedly said so in his posts. Cannoli - 13/09/2017 04:24:15 PM 610 Views
Yes, thank you for mansplaining. nossy - 13/09/2017 05:23:59 PM 460 Views
Cannoli is right. I was pretty clear about what bothers me. Tom - 13/09/2017 08:49:12 PM 509 Views
I did expect more nossy - 13/09/2017 10:36:36 PM 536 Views
I thought I provided it. Adherence to logic, facts and reality. Tom - 13/09/2017 10:41:39 PM 544 Views
No, you did. nossy - 13/09/2017 11:16:18 PM 524 Views
I agree with this. damookster - 13/09/2017 04:34:19 PM 474 Views
Yeah, they are. LiterateDog - 14/09/2017 03:29:07 AM 509 Views
LOL damookster - 14/09/2017 06:06:28 AM 506 Views
You replace that "M" with an "L", and change the "no" to an "a".... LiterateDog - 14/09/2017 06:17:06 AM 539 Views
... yet. *NM* aerocontrols - 13/09/2017 07:26:56 PM 320 Views
Congratulations. You've begun arguing for transition. Ghavrel - 13/09/2017 03:08:32 PM 480 Views
Don't forget.... Jeordam - 13/09/2017 07:27:41 PM 445 Views
I repeat, you do not fix your problems by maiming yourself. TyrReborn - 13/09/2017 09:56:36 PM 467 Views
So your suggestion is to keep the suicide rate staggeringly high. Excellent solution. Ghavrel - 13/09/2017 11:03:42 PM 535 Views
Nice strawman. TyrReborn - 14/09/2017 02:42:01 AM 448 Views
And in the meantime, while your miracle drugs and therapies are being developed... *NM* Ghavrel - 14/09/2017 03:08:55 AM 347 Views
Don't allow them to maim themselves. It's that simple. I don't get why you don't get it. TyrReborn - 14/09/2017 03:18:20 AM 569 Views
Because you're saying "don't do this thing that makes you less likely to kill yourself." Ghavrel - 14/09/2017 05:46:13 AM 457 Views
TyrReborn - 14/09/2017 05:19:40 PM 483 Views
In fairness to Ghavrel... Legolas - 14/09/2017 11:15:04 PM 499 Views
Oh, thank you! Your hyperbolic sarcasm has opened my eyes! TyrReborn - 15/09/2017 06:28:35 AM 443 Views
I thought your latest replies were slacking off a bit, so I resumed your best arguments from before. Legolas - 15/09/2017 07:22:04 AM 516 Views
You're not even making sense. TyrReborn - 15/09/2017 05:46:04 PM 507 Views
If only stamina were enough to win a debate. Legolas - 15/09/2017 08:00:26 PM 551 Views
Oh! Haha! I don't know how I missed the humor there! TyrReborn - 15/09/2017 08:42:50 PM 434 Views
Yeah, most people feel that way when they're being mocked. *NM* Ghavrel - 15/09/2017 09:00:32 PM 320 Views
K. Get back to me when you want to actually have a discussion, then. *NM* TyrReborn - 16/09/2017 03:43:37 AM 323 Views
You should read up on OCD and hair dryers. Or really on mental illness at all. *NM* Ghavrel - 15/09/2017 09:02:22 PM 303 Views
Oh yeah? Do they cause permanent damage to their bodies? *NM* TyrReborn - 16/09/2017 03:44:38 AM 272 Views
They cause permanent alterations to their bodies through the use of medicine. Ghavrel - 16/09/2017 07:11:57 AM 705 Views
Liposuction isn't an acceptable treatment for anorexia nervosa. AgentApple - 13/09/2017 11:08:07 AM 481 Views
It would be if it had the best prognosis for people with AN, though. Ghavrel - 13/09/2017 03:06:11 PM 504 Views
No it wouldnt. Anorexics very often are underweight to begin with. How does liposuction help? Hieshyn - 14/09/2017 01:53:33 AM 621 Views
...it doesn't. That's why it's not the solution which offers the best prognosis. That was the point. Ghavrel - 14/09/2017 03:11:04 AM 535 Views
I've been thinking about this point.... Jeordam - 18/09/2017 07:00:49 PM 508 Views
You know what might make my anxiety and severe depression easier to manage? Millions of dollars. Hieshyn - 14/09/2017 01:40:09 AM 419 Views
Sure. That's a decent point. I think there needs to be a discussion about children. *NM* Ghavrel - 14/09/2017 03:06:51 AM 296 Views
I don't it is a question of good or bad but if it should be celibrated and treated as normal random thoughts - 13/09/2017 08:56:34 PM 493 Views
This is pretty sad on multiple levels.... Jeordam - 12/09/2017 10:45:17 PM 541 Views
Transgenderism is the Twenty First Century's phrenology *NM* Tom - 13/09/2017 12:25:29 AM 347 Views
So how to protect little Pat from aerocontrols - 13/09/2017 04:32:44 PM 486 Views
You seem either confused on what that means, or leaping to rather unjustified conclusions. Legolas - 13/09/2017 06:29:47 PM 454 Views
I missed that part.... Jeordam - 13/09/2017 07:00:17 PM 442 Views
Yes. If you watch the whole video (15 mins), it's actually pretty nuanced and interesting. *NM* Legolas - 13/09/2017 07:10:07 PM 327 Views
Not confused about the syndrome. Was the kid in the article/news segment named 'Pat'? aerocontrols - 13/09/2017 07:06:08 PM 454 Views
Patrick, yes. Legolas - 13/09/2017 07:08:37 PM 451 Views
Doctor shopping, of course aerocontrols - 13/09/2017 07:24:20 PM 513 Views
I doubt it's that easy. But what makes this different from other conditions in that regard? *NM* Legolas - 13/09/2017 07:34:30 PM 322 Views
Because it's not wrong...? aerocontrols - 15/09/2017 05:53:24 PM 474 Views
I suppose. I meant on the doctors approving treatment side. Legolas - 15/09/2017 08:10:59 PM 529 Views
That is one of the draw back of the US medical system random thoughts - 18/09/2017 05:02:38 PM 471 Views
HAHAHAHA!!!! aerocontrols - 13/09/2017 07:07:08 PM 394 Views
You ain't lyin' about that. LiterateDog - 14/09/2017 04:06:48 AM 526 Views
I find the things they're doing with young people on this issue very troubling. LiterateDog - 14/09/2017 03:58:05 AM 522 Views
I think this is an eminently reasonable viewpoint. Ghavrel - 14/09/2017 05:49:00 AM 573 Views
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