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And? Legolas Send a noteboard - 27/09/2019 09:34:31 PM

View original postHe was in the CIA and upset that "several people were disturbed" by the call, and that it was placed in a secret database. However, apparently that is something that the Trump Administration has been doing due to leaks (like the whistle blower's leak). The transcript was composed by people actually in the room when the call was made, unlike the whistle blower's unsubstantiated complaint.

Which is why as soon as that report (it's not a transcript exactly) was released, people focused on that instead, at least for purposes of assessing what Trump said and how serious that was.
View original postIn a trial the whistle blower's entire complaint would be considered inadmissible hearsay. The only reason to file it is to attempt to then find substantiation elsewhere. There is an expression for legal actions such as this: fishing expedition.

In the context in which it actually occurred, the expression is whistle blowing, hence the epithet by which this person is being described. Of course if and when such misdeeds uncovered by a whistle blower come to an actual criminal trial, there needs to be more of an investigation to obtain further evidence and obviously that includes talking to the people who were actually present for the call. I have no idea what 'fishing' has to do with anything.
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Really? Nothing on the current Ukraine-Trump thing? Color me shocked. *NM* TyrReborn - 26/09/2019 07:32:13 PM 563 Views
My thoughts in a short video clip form. Roland00 - 26/09/2019 08:09:32 PM 400 Views
I would have put up something if I expected a different result from before fionwe1987 - 26/09/2019 09:32:56 PM 373 Views
This. *NM* Legolas - 26/09/2019 09:56:29 PM 185 Views
So every conversation you have in life.... Jeordam - 26/09/2019 10:50:09 PM 406 Views
Not with people like you. Not anymore fionwe1987 - 26/09/2019 11:47:04 PM 389 Views
That's the actual debate, isn't it? Jeordam - 26/09/2019 10:48:12 PM 411 Views
Yes, you're missing things. fionwe1987 - 26/09/2019 11:51:34 PM 406 Views
Of course you are but you already knew that random thoughts - 27/09/2019 02:00:22 PM 404 Views
Hmmm... Jeordam - 27/09/2019 04:20:05 PM 367 Views
What is different than before is two things Roland00 - 26/09/2019 11:59:33 PM 402 Views
We're talking about different differences... fionwe1987 - 27/09/2019 08:10:47 PM 361 Views
many Republicans I know feel exactly the same *NM* damookster - 27/09/2019 08:57:57 PM 191 Views
But few will say it out straight fionwe1987 - 27/09/2019 09:21:28 PM 358 Views
I don't know this answer and any one who says they know this answer is lying to you even if their Roland00 - 28/09/2019 12:29:39 AM 350 Views
A complete tempest in a teacup. Tom - 26/09/2019 10:01:09 PM 403 Views
The Trump apologist are circling the wagons random thoughts - 27/09/2019 01:49:20 PM 432 Views
This is where I disagree. Jeordam - 27/09/2019 04:35:43 PM 392 Views
You do realize that we're now going by the White House's own summary? Legolas - 27/09/2019 07:30:59 PM 364 Views
Yes, I do realize that. Jeordam - 27/09/2019 07:46:10 PM 359 Views
What would you do when everything you say will always be taken in the worst light?- private email? fionwe1987 - 27/09/2019 07:58:19 PM 361 Views
Simmer down Jeordam - 27/09/2019 08:33:14 PM 360 Views
ROFL. You truly are hopeless. Enjoy smoking whatever you're smoking. Thankfully, its not my country fionwe1987 - 27/09/2019 09:09:43 PM 397 Views
I don't smoke. But you are correct....it is not your country. *NM* Jeordam - 27/09/2019 09:57:27 PM 190 Views
You truly are hopeless. Roland00 - 28/09/2019 01:12:52 AM 430 Views
Your spidey-senses were accurate. I was indeed thinking of doing so. damookster - 28/09/2019 02:36:01 PM 351 Views
You do realize the whistle blower had no direct information in the complaint, right? Tom - 27/09/2019 07:51:19 PM 387 Views
And? Legolas - 27/09/2019 09:34:31 PM 387 Views
"I have no idea what 'fishing' has to do with anything." You wouldn't. Tom - 27/09/2019 10:11:54 PM 378 Views
So you're saying any whistleblower complaint based on second hand information... fionwe1987 - 27/09/2019 11:44:57 PM 371 Views
It doesn't matter Roland00 - 28/09/2019 06:02:07 AM 363 Views
Also just as a reminder we have precedent here with the impeachment of Federal Judge Walter Nixon. Roland00 - 28/09/2019 07:38:19 PM 367 Views
A secret database, you mean a secret server? A server full of e-mails? *NM* Roland00 - 28/09/2019 05:55:21 AM 181 Views
Truth! Great Post - *NM* Anonymous2000 - 01/10/2019 02:12:50 AM 202 Views
The biggest conundrum for Republicans... damookster - 27/09/2019 04:10:16 PM 435 Views
Likewise.... Jeordam - 27/09/2019 04:24:03 PM 351 Views
You're drastically overstating how much impact Trump, or any president, has on the economy. Legolas - 27/09/2019 07:11:54 PM 416 Views
Long term verses short term damookster - 27/09/2019 07:33:01 PM 398 Views
And I'm not willing to gamble on that rebound. Jeordam - 27/09/2019 07:55:19 PM 381 Views
You know they're going to have to hit the middle class with massive taxes for this Tom - 27/09/2019 08:31:09 PM 347 Views
Bernie clearly stated on Colbert the other night that his health care taxes would start... damookster - 28/09/2019 03:16:43 PM 359 Views
Hun you have the senate to be the shock absorber on the rebound. Roland00 - 28/09/2019 02:15:20 AM 368 Views
If all of that actually happened like that, okay. Legolas - 27/09/2019 10:01:26 PM 381 Views
"the worst, most corrupt and most offensive president in American history" - Harding is back? Tom - 27/09/2019 07:54:13 PM 390 Views
What makes Trump the most corrupt in you opinion ? AgentApple - 29/09/2019 02:35:25 PM 468 Views
Trump won't be removed from office absent real evidence of high crimes Tom - 27/09/2019 07:52:56 PM 388 Views
That isn't the standard for "real evidence" fionwe1987 - 27/09/2019 08:06:48 PM 362 Views
That may be but he has a point. damookster - 27/09/2019 09:09:02 PM 376 Views
That's what I said... fionwe1987 - 27/09/2019 09:14:14 PM 358 Views
On a less depressing subject damookster - 27/09/2019 09:35:26 PM 368 Views
Amrut is awesome fionwe1987 - 27/09/2019 09:54:20 PM 338 Views
Yes, that was on the label. damookster - 27/09/2019 10:10:00 PM 361 Views
Well, at least you're honest. fionwe1987 - 27/09/2019 08:00:39 PM 341 Views
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