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Hmmm... Jeordam Send a noteboard - 27/09/2019 04:20:05 PM

View original postSimple question. Is it Ok for POTUS to use his position and foreign aid to pressure world leaders into dig up dirt on the families of his political rivals? Ignore who gave you the information and who the party is do you support that sort of behavior in our president. Can you honestly say you would have supported Obama behaving like that?

I didn't see POTUS doing a quid pro quo. But to answer, is it Ok. No. However it is no more wrong than using that same position to stop a world leader from digging up dirt on your own family.
View original postIf the republic has become so weak and frightened that we are willing to abandon all our values to support a man like Trump then the party is doomed. Personal integrity and accountability is one of the things that drew me to the Republican party in the mid 80s but fear and hatred has killed that wing of the party.

What values is the republic abandoning?

~Jeordam

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Really? Nothing on the current Ukraine-Trump thing? Color me shocked. *NM* TyrReborn - 26/09/2019 07:32:13 PM 400 Views
My thoughts in a short video clip form. Roland00 - 26/09/2019 08:09:32 PM 73 Views
I would have put up something if I expected a different result from before fionwe1987 - 26/09/2019 09:32:56 PM 86 Views
This. *NM* Legolas - 26/09/2019 09:56:29 PM 43 Views
So every conversation you have in life.... Jeordam - 26/09/2019 10:50:09 PM 85 Views
Not with people like you. Not anymore fionwe1987 - 26/09/2019 11:47:04 PM 80 Views
That's the actual debate, isn't it? Jeordam - 26/09/2019 10:48:12 PM 87 Views
Yes, you're missing things. fionwe1987 - 26/09/2019 11:51:34 PM 82 Views
Of course you are but you already knew that random thoughts - 27/09/2019 02:00:22 PM 93 Views
Hmmm... Jeordam - 27/09/2019 04:20:05 PM 72 Views
What is different than before is two things Roland00 - 26/09/2019 11:59:33 PM 76 Views
We're talking about different differences... fionwe1987 - 27/09/2019 08:10:47 PM 71 Views
many Republicans I know feel exactly the same *NM* damookster - 27/09/2019 08:57:57 PM 41 Views
But few will say it out straight fionwe1987 - 27/09/2019 09:21:28 PM 64 Views
I don't know this answer and any one who says they know this answer is lying to you even if their Roland00 - 28/09/2019 12:29:39 AM 55 Views
A complete tempest in a teacup. Tom - 26/09/2019 10:01:09 PM 91 Views
The Trump apologist are circling the wagons random thoughts - 27/09/2019 01:49:20 PM 92 Views
This is where I disagree. Jeordam - 27/09/2019 04:35:43 PM 68 Views
You do realize that we're now going by the White House's own summary? Legolas - 27/09/2019 07:30:59 PM 72 Views
Yes, I do realize that. Jeordam - 27/09/2019 07:46:10 PM 56 Views
What would you do when everything you say will always be taken in the worst light?- private email? fionwe1987 - 27/09/2019 07:58:19 PM 66 Views
Simmer down Jeordam - 27/09/2019 08:33:14 PM 65 Views
ROFL. You truly are hopeless. Enjoy smoking whatever you're smoking. Thankfully, its not my country fionwe1987 - 27/09/2019 09:09:43 PM 65 Views
I don't smoke. But you are correct....it is not your country. *NM* Jeordam - 27/09/2019 09:57:27 PM 44 Views
You truly are hopeless. Roland00 - 28/09/2019 01:12:52 AM 77 Views
Your spidey-senses were accurate. I was indeed thinking of doing so. damookster - 28/09/2019 02:36:01 PM 70 Views
You do realize the whistle blower had no direct information in the complaint, right? Tom - 27/09/2019 07:51:19 PM 73 Views
And? Legolas - 27/09/2019 09:34:31 PM 69 Views
"I have no idea what 'fishing' has to do with anything." You wouldn't. Tom - 27/09/2019 10:11:54 PM 74 Views
So you're saying any whistleblower complaint based on second hand information... fionwe1987 - 27/09/2019 11:44:57 PM 69 Views
It doesn't matter Roland00 - 28/09/2019 06:02:07 AM 58 Views
Also just as a reminder we have precedent here with the impeachment of Federal Judge Walter Nixon. Roland00 - 28/09/2019 07:38:19 PM 58 Views
A secret database, you mean a secret server? A server full of e-mails? *NM* Roland00 - 28/09/2019 05:55:21 AM 38 Views
Truth! Great Post - *NM* Anonymous2000 - 01/10/2019 02:12:50 AM 39 Views
The biggest conundrum for Republicans... damookster - 27/09/2019 04:10:16 PM 91 Views
Likewise.... Jeordam - 27/09/2019 04:24:03 PM 65 Views
You're drastically overstating how much impact Trump, or any president, has on the economy. Legolas - 27/09/2019 07:11:54 PM 74 Views
Long term verses short term damookster - 27/09/2019 07:33:01 PM 69 Views
And I'm not willing to gamble on that rebound. Jeordam - 27/09/2019 07:55:19 PM 59 Views
You know they're going to have to hit the middle class with massive taxes for this Tom - 27/09/2019 08:31:09 PM 68 Views
Bernie clearly stated on Colbert the other night that his health care taxes would start... damookster - 28/09/2019 03:16:43 PM 67 Views
Hun you have the senate to be the shock absorber on the rebound. Roland00 - 28/09/2019 02:15:20 AM 54 Views
If all of that actually happened like that, okay. Legolas - 27/09/2019 10:01:26 PM 72 Views
"the worst, most corrupt and most offensive president in American history" - Harding is back? Tom - 27/09/2019 07:54:13 PM 64 Views
What makes Trump the most corrupt in you opinion ? AgentApple - 29/09/2019 02:35:25 PM 65 Views
Trump won't be removed from office absent real evidence of high crimes Tom - 27/09/2019 07:52:56 PM 80 Views
That isn't the standard for "real evidence" fionwe1987 - 27/09/2019 08:06:48 PM 68 Views
That may be but he has a point. damookster - 27/09/2019 09:09:02 PM 71 Views
That's what I said... fionwe1987 - 27/09/2019 09:14:14 PM 67 Views
On a less depressing subject damookster - 27/09/2019 09:35:26 PM 73 Views
Amrut is awesome fionwe1987 - 27/09/2019 09:54:20 PM 61 Views
Yes, that was on the label. damookster - 27/09/2019 10:10:00 PM 67 Views
Well, at least you're honest. fionwe1987 - 27/09/2019 08:00:39 PM 74 Views
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