View original postthat it was made through the lens of the Game of Thrones show. The changes made are all made to make storylines darker. To make the colors darker. To sex it up. To violence it up. The producer read the books, but the way the show is shot and the way it was changed is inherently problematic. It's as if they thought we wouldn't want a show that was more like the Fellowship of the Ring movie.
As I mentioned above, I haven't seen much sexing or violencing it up? And definitely not all changes made storylines / characters darker - e.g. with Mat, they did make him darker in some ways, but at the same time also made his good sides more explicit in the way he takes care of his sisters. Egwene also seems to be softened rather than hardened.
View original postAnd to use another example - I wanted a show like the Marvel movies. Not like the Zack Snyder DC movies.
I recently saw the Snyder Cut of Justice League, that was, uh, interesting. But the DC movies also include Aquaman and the two Wonder Woman movies (saw the second one just this weekend), which have plenty of more lighthearted and dare I say even wholesome stuff. But going for a Marvel-like tone wouldn't have suited WoT well, either, I don't think.
View original postThere was no reason to do to Perrin and to Mat what they did. None. They could have inserted humor. The Nynaeve backstory was also odd. When The Eye of the World was written there was a clear Tolkien influence. And that's fine. We don't need another Games of Thrones show. We don't need a show influenced by Martin.
Nynaeve's storyline so far is a complete clusterfuck (though not necessarily her personality) and Perrin's, while not wholly bad, is poisoned by that nonsense in the first episode. Lan isn't what he should be, either. But the others are mostly okay.
View original postI want a show that I think Jordan would have liked. I don't think he would have liked this show because it doesn't capture the spirit of the books.
Martin was a TV writer by trade, who wrote a series that was a lot easier to translate to TV in the first place - and who was probably more understanding of the changes that nevertheless still had to be made. I'd agree Jordan would have disliked a lot about this series, they could and should have done better in various respects, but I don't think it would've been possible to make a TV adaptation that Jordan would've really liked very much - not one for a modern mass audience, anyway.
I am not even bothering with 2 & 3.
- 21/11/2021 09:51:46 PM
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I thought my link might make you laugh. Definitely two snaps down! *NM*
- 22/11/2021 12:45:49 AM
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Respectable Choice
- 22/11/2021 01:39:37 AM
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A reasonable decision.
- 22/11/2021 02:15:23 AM
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But I'm a thoroughly unreasonable person!
- 22/11/2021 02:29:45 PM
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Then start acting like it!
- 23/11/2021 07:00:54 PM
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- 23/11/2021 07:00:54 PM
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Sanderson's providing some kind of running commentary... which does contain criticism.
- 23/11/2021 07:59:10 PM
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Good, those changes seem completely unnecessary and pointless. *NM*
- 26/11/2021 05:43:39 PM
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I think the point to remember is, the early episodes were never going to be that great.
- 22/11/2021 08:46:33 AM
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Eh, I think you give them too much slack.
- 22/11/2021 02:33:04 PM
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It's possible I'll agree with that after having seen more episodes...
- 22/11/2021 03:04:54 PM
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That's a big "if'.
- 22/11/2021 03:31:11 PM
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Yes, it is a big 'if'. I guess I'm an optimist?
- 22/11/2021 04:17:41 PM
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- 22/11/2021 04:17:41 PM
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Agreed on -
- 22/11/2021 05:27:28 PM
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Where are the extras ? :o *NM*
- 23/11/2021 05:42:40 AM
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Via X-Ray --> Bonus Content *NM*
- 23/11/2021 02:29:59 PM
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Hmmm I dont think I have that
- 23/11/2021 08:03:52 PM
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Apparently some people need to download the Amazon Prime app to be able to see them.
- 23/11/2021 08:22:31 PM
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I kind of liked it
- 22/11/2021 10:29:21 AM
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So, doesn't suck nearly as much as some other shows? I can accept that. *NM*
- 22/11/2021 01:44:23 PM
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Re: So, doesn't suck nearly as much as some other shows? I can accept that.
- 22/11/2021 02:11:57 PM
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I couldn't possibly disagree more.
- 22/11/2021 03:11:32 PM
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#Justice4AbellCauthon
- 22/11/2021 03:32:41 PM
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If the show gets as far as the battle of the Two Rivers he can be reformed
- 22/11/2021 03:50:08 PM
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The problem with the show is
- 22/11/2021 03:10:17 PM
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I covered a lot of this in my reply to Joe above.
- 22/11/2021 04:36:38 PM
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Re: I covered a lot of this in my reply to Joe above.
- 22/11/2021 05:24:38 PM
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Just came across a related article...
- 23/11/2021 06:23:31 PM
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The Guardian's views on the show are . . .not to be trusted.
- 23/11/2021 09:50:01 PM
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Yep. But it's pretty weird how many entirely different things people are seeing in it.
- 23/11/2021 11:06:24 PM
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Madden's read to book 11, apparently
- 24/11/2021 02:57:46 AM
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Oh has she? Must've changed her mind since the earlier interview, then... and read quickly.
- 24/11/2021 08:17:24 AM
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Re: Oh has she? Must've changed her mind since the earlier interview, then... and read quickly.
- 26/11/2021 10:44:58 PM
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Also why is every city from the past influenced by the LOTR movies?
- 22/11/2021 03:16:13 PM
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Yes, I greatly dislike what they've done with the the White Tower. *NM*
- 22/11/2021 03:31:47 PM
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That's a good point - not a fan of what they did with the White Tower, either.
- 22/11/2021 03:37:36 PM
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I didn't make it more than 2 minutes into episode 1.
- 22/11/2021 05:41:56 PM
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Wow, my paisan’ makes an appearance! Long time no talk, my friend. *NM*
- 22/11/2021 06:36:54 PM
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I don't understand this take
- 22/11/2021 07:02:12 PM
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the opening bothered me a little as well.
- 22/11/2021 07:25:20 PM
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Re: the opening bothered me a little as well.
- 23/11/2021 06:29:25 PM
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I'm well aware of the backstory and the different views on it.
- 23/11/2021 07:11:19 PM
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Saidin and Saidar are in the show
- 24/11/2021 03:00:50 AM
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According to the Dragonmount YouTube review as of the end of episode 6 it’s still just One Power *NM*
- 24/11/2021 04:34:32 AM
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With regards to the pacing
- 24/11/2021 07:29:36 AM
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Considering that it's still not revealed by the end of episode 6 who the Dragon Reborn is...
- 24/11/2021 08:22:02 AM
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