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I am contemptuous of you (and I suspect your vocabulary skills) Cannoli Send a noteboard - 26/04/2022 09:30:55 PM


If this is all cannoli said, that would be something.
The wall of poop he spewed, on the other hand, is filled with so much classic slut

Is there another word for a person who engages in sex with people they don't want to have kids with?
shaming that it verges on parody.

As for your own formulation here... Yes, there's a divide on whether people believe the fetus is alive or not. But that line completely ignores that the presence of a fetus in a person's womb doesn't mean they consented to it. Rape sperm, statements to the contrary aside, is not rejected by the vagina

So how does the neat division of fetus:human life or not play out in this scenario?

Human, dumbass. That's why consent doesn't matter. Abortion is not a question of responsibility or whether or not you deserve the pregnancy, it is about a living human being.
How does it play out where the life of a woman is threatened by continuing the pregnancy?
Again, this has been firmly established. If an necessary life-saving medical treatment might or even certainly will result the death of the fetus, that fetus has as much right to life as a trespasser on your property does in civilized states with castle laws. If an abortion is deemed necessary for her mental health, by a psychiatrist who double-majored in women's studies, then she goes into restraints until the baby is born and then the issue of self-harm can be revisited.
If you believe a fetus is a human being, neither of these should matter. However, it then requires you to see the woman as less than human.
That's like saying the would-be recipient of an involuntarily donated organ is less than human. The potential benefit from a crime is not a licit benefit. A pregnancy is a temporary condition, in the case of rape, no different from an injury from an assault that takes 9 months to heal. And abortion in defense of your bodily autonomy is no different from murdering an infant in order to speed up that recovery time.
So you give me a morally consistent way to behave if you believe the fetus is a live human, and then we'll talk.

We've only been saying this stuff for decades, but per my opening point in my first response, you keep pretending you didn't hear or don't understand it.
Cannoli
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
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