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No one said that, and you know it... entyti Send a noteboard - 07/05/2022 05:56:04 AM

No, of course it doesn't. But it's hardly something you can make a decision about and impose on the whole country. If you believe life begins at meiotic cell division, go for it, preserve every sperm cell. But why am I obliged to follow this?

Science certainly doesn't support any such notion, so given the absence of anything approaching secular agreement on when life begins, why should the entire country follow the beliefs of one religious group?


If you can't be intellectually honest about your opposing arguments, it's difficult to trust your position.

Your response here weakens your argument. It is certainly not the gotcha you believe it to be.

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Abortion in the South, and soon, probably all over the country fionwe1987 - 25/04/2022 01:26:45 AM 1276 Views
that is the trouble here Roland00 - 25/04/2022 05:02:46 PM 485 Views
Your utter lack of comprehension means you will never evoke any sympathy from me on this Cannoli - 26/04/2022 12:42:54 PM 514 Views
"The party of "bodily autonomy"" Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 04:51:05 PM 431 Views
That is a perverts motte and bailey argument Roland00 - 26/04/2022 06:27:51 PM 450 Views
The issue is abortion. Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 07:39:00 PM 416 Views
Tell me your feelings about Lochner Roland00 - 26/04/2022 07:53:00 PM 415 Views
Simple, it was wrongly decided. Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 09:51:27 PM 393 Views
I think that is enough for the day Roland00 - 26/04/2022 11:07:42 PM 423 Views
I honestly don't give a fig about the constitution here... fionwe1987 - 26/04/2022 07:00:57 PM 447 Views
You can't have your cake and eat it too. Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 07:42:51 PM 452 Views
Uhhh fionwe1987 - 26/04/2022 07:54:13 PM 419 Views
I mean, yeah. Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 09:58:19 PM 416 Views
You seem to be arguing with an alternate version of me... fionwe1987 - 27/04/2022 04:46:46 AM 459 Views
Broad popular support? Dragonsoul - 27/04/2022 04:54:49 PM 424 Views
Cannoli is not wrong. damookster - 26/04/2022 05:09:49 PM 477 Views
Cannoli is a contemptuous moron fionwe1987 - 26/04/2022 06:56:33 PM 424 Views
I am contemptuous of you (and I suspect your vocabulary skills) Cannoli - 26/04/2022 09:30:55 PM 478 Views
Was the Catholic Church EVIL . Roland00 - 26/04/2022 07:01:50 PM 459 Views
As a general rule... fionwe1987 - 26/04/2022 07:06:24 PM 413 Views
Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes. Roland00 - 26/04/2022 07:32:33 PM 665 Views
The people who feel righteousness and can not acknowledge ambiguity well this kingdom will be theres Roland00 - 26/04/2022 07:34:10 PM 425 Views
Roland, I am neither supporting nor denying any specific theology in my original comment. damookster - 26/04/2022 08:28:31 PM 408 Views
And I am problematizing your claim Roland00 - 26/04/2022 08:34:17 PM 419 Views
hence, I introduced the problematic existence of exceptions to the law. *NM* damookster - 26/04/2022 08:54:02 PM 279 Views
Theodicy Roland00 - 26/04/2022 08:55:50 PM 464 Views
Re: Theodicy Cannoli - 26/04/2022 09:45:35 PM 431 Views
and yet... damookster - 26/04/2022 10:35:58 PM 462 Views
What is the Andrea Dworkin line again? Roland00 - 26/04/2022 11:06:30 PM 438 Views
You're correct about that. We are most assuredly talking past one another. damookster - 26/04/2022 11:39:01 PM 405 Views
Have not had a drink yet. Roland00 - 26/04/2022 11:46:59 PM 409 Views
I'd say about the same as covering up the child abuse issues. Cannoli - 26/04/2022 09:41:21 PM 464 Views
Pope Sixtus V In the 1580s is when abortion became a top down / pope and council issue. Roland00 - 26/04/2022 10:56:23 PM 478 Views
Leaked draft opinion Jeordam - 03/05/2022 06:42:20 PM 478 Views
John Roberts confirms it is real Roland00 - 03/05/2022 07:37:26 PM 439 Views
Results were leaked, not opinions. Dragonsoul - 03/05/2022 08:02:10 PM 401 Views
If you want to parse the history you are welcome to do so. Roland00 - 03/05/2022 08:32:06 PM 426 Views
You're either being willfully ignorant or disingenuous Dragonsoul - 03/05/2022 09:26:49 PM 446 Views
There's a very simple alternate reason fionwe1987 - 05/05/2022 06:36:26 AM 434 Views
“Wants to get the word out there ASAP” Dragonsoul - 05/05/2022 02:02:00 PM 395 Views
Re: “Wants to get the word out there ASAP” fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:18:24 PM 435 Views
He said, not coming up with any retort of his own. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 03:04:07 PM 416 Views
Re: He said, not coming up with any retort of his own. fionwe1987 - 09/05/2022 05:01:43 PM 380 Views
Don't blame me for your failures. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 05:21:48 PM 365 Views
Leaking also kind of locks in the 5 justices into a more radical decision Roland00 - 05/05/2022 04:08:58 PM 406 Views
Precisely. fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:22:16 PM 378 Views
Obvious intent my ass fionwe1987 - 05/05/2022 06:32:10 AM 407 Views
Treasonous Pieces of Junk Dragonsoul - 05/05/2022 01:58:23 PM 406 Views
I cannot commit treason fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:20:20 PM 409 Views
Neither am I. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 03:02:54 PM 419 Views
Projecting what? fionwe1987 - 09/05/2022 05:02:59 PM 407 Views
Is this a parody account? Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 05:25:39 PM 403 Views
Nope. TyrReborn - 12/05/2022 10:23:24 PM 387 Views
Well, if it's not a parody... Dragonsoul - 13/05/2022 07:46:45 PM 397 Views
Go look up what it means to “project” fionwe1987 - 13/05/2022 05:04:19 PM 402 Views
Stop shifting the goalposts Dragonsoul - 13/05/2022 07:45:21 PM 394 Views
There is no goalpost shifting fionwe1987 - 17/05/2022 12:48:18 PM 416 Views
Parody Account: Hypocrite, or Just Stupid? Dragonsoul - 17/05/2022 07:26:49 PM 432 Views
actually, Trump was impeached damookster - 05/05/2022 02:05:16 PM 408 Views
By Democrats and a few Republicans fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:21:38 PM 430 Views
you wrote: damookster - 06/05/2022 09:34:09 PM 366 Views
Ummm fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:42:57 PM 378 Views
Interesting is one word for it... fionwe1987 - 05/05/2022 06:38:23 AM 395 Views
That's your thought.... Jeordam - 06/05/2022 05:34:21 PM 438 Views
Hardly just mine fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:23:32 PM 370 Views
Interesting... Jeordam - 06/05/2022 10:33:56 PM 426 Views
Roe has restrictions fionwe1987 - 07/05/2022 03:16:32 AM 399 Views
So popular opinion is what decides recognition of life... entyti - 06/05/2022 10:44:08 PM 423 Views
Nice try fionwe1987 - 07/05/2022 03:19:35 AM 369 Views
No one said that, and you know it... entyti - 07/05/2022 05:56:04 AM 395 Views
Well that's a lot of empty noise fionwe1987 - 07/05/2022 02:46:48 PM 401 Views
Then stop listening to yourself… entyti - 07/05/2022 06:56:45 PM 436 Views
Serious reading comprehension fail here... fionwe1987 - 08/05/2022 05:01:28 PM 409 Views
Not reading comprehension. Thinking comprehension... and it's not on my account entyti - 09/05/2022 11:04:57 PM 419 Views
That is the Catholic Church's position after 1869, but lets do Idaho and LA Roland00 - 07/05/2022 10:08:39 PM 404 Views
And the Minoans practiced child sacrifice... entyti - 09/05/2022 11:51:44 PM 395 Views
So we are in agreement if we circle around Roland00 - 10/05/2022 02:34:19 AM 375 Views
Well, we agree it will get worse entyti - 10/05/2022 04:05:33 PM 416 Views
Thanks for explaining why Roe was egregiously wrong. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 03:56:52 PM 374 Views
Roe imposed nothing fionwe1987 - 09/05/2022 05:05:36 PM 412 Views
Actually, it does impose Jeordam - 09/05/2022 05:19:38 PM 613 Views
Re: Actually, it does impose fionwe1987 - 13/05/2022 05:09:04 PM 400 Views
Roe imposed abortion on states that banned it. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 05:26:56 PM 424 Views
States rights do not trump individual rights fionwe1987 - 13/05/2022 05:12:13 PM 407 Views
States rights regulate individual rights Dragonsoul - 13/05/2022 07:42:52 PM 425 Views
I am not allowed to get divorced in my state of Texas if my spouse is pregnant. Roland00 - 15/05/2022 07:59:19 PM 430 Views
Cool Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 12:10:57 AM 423 Views
So our state energy grid Roland00 - 16/05/2022 01:41:50 AM 404 Views
Wow, not sure I've seen you so angry before gban007 - 16/05/2022 08:12:58 AM 446 Views
Sadomasochism, aka cruelty has been the norm of Texas for a long time. Roland00 - 16/05/2022 05:56:26 PM 371 Views
Are you off your meds? Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 12:35:18 PM 365 Views
I live in the world the US set up Internment Camps in living memory, I known survivors. Roland00 - 16/05/2022 06:00:07 PM 408 Views
You're literally arguing with yourself. Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 08:00:37 PM 417 Views
That is precisely what I am afraid of Roland00 - 16/05/2022 08:07:41 PM 390 Views
That can literally be flipped right on to the other side. Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 08:19:02 PM 397 Views
Just a reminder freedom of movement is not in the US Constitution Roland00 - 16/05/2022 08:25:42 PM 423 Views
Again, you put words into my mouth that I've never said. Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 08:32:38 PM 417 Views
Who the fuck cares? fionwe1987 - 17/05/2022 12:54:48 PM 443 Views
Parody account strikes back! Dragonsoul - 17/05/2022 07:14:24 PM 377 Views
a few final thoughts damookster - 07/05/2022 07:18:38 PM 465 Views
In some ways, it probably would've been better if Roe v Wade had never happened. Legolas - 07/05/2022 08:20:17 PM 417 Views
I can always count on you for rational discussion. *NM* damookster - 07/05/2022 09:19:57 PM 293 Views
He really is wonderful. The Shrike - 09/05/2022 04:29:00 PM 434 Views
Let me join in. Yes. Legolas is good people. *NM* aerocontrols - 10/05/2022 02:52:37 PM 255 Views
It did happen though, sorry if I problematize your fantasy you are transversing Roland00 - 07/05/2022 10:35:12 PM 400 Views
Uh, it wasn't a fantasy... and you didn't problematize it so much as made some vague reflections? *NM* Legolas - 08/05/2022 12:37:23 AM 256 Views
Alternate histories are always fantasies *NM* Roland00 - 08/05/2022 01:03:48 AM 251 Views
History and Histrionic or perhaps Roland00 - 07/05/2022 10:25:23 PM 418 Views
The denominational distinctions within Christiandom aren't of concern to me... fionwe1987 - 08/05/2022 05:09:12 PM 523 Views
There is an easy answer for you. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 03:53:42 PM 432 Views
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