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Well, we agree it will get worse entyti Send a noteboard - 10/05/2022 04:05:33 PM

Both sides are paranoid, and can find examples to justify why the present is unbearable and how we think the immediate future is going to get so much worse.

Why is it going to get worse? Because states are going to make maximalists policies that actually do not reduce harm. Do not reduce abortions and mothers deaths in the worse case health scenario (for medical shit does happen), they will do so in order to feel in control, to feel righteous, to feel the zeal. I fear it is going to get worse for mankind loves our gratification and is a creature capable of self/other destruction in our lives excess.

One could do restrictions on third trimester Abortions under Roe and the other course cases that followed. But the near future gives us another chance to feel a higher level of control, agency, and self-zeal.


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Abortion in the South, and soon, probably all over the country fionwe1987 - 25/04/2022 01:26:45 AM 1398 Views
that is the trouble here Roland00 - 25/04/2022 05:02:46 PM 656 Views
Your utter lack of comprehension means you will never evoke any sympathy from me on this Cannoli - 26/04/2022 12:42:54 PM 694 Views
"The party of "bodily autonomy"" Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 04:51:05 PM 566 Views
That is a perverts motte and bailey argument Roland00 - 26/04/2022 06:27:51 PM 617 Views
The issue is abortion. Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 07:39:00 PM 538 Views
Tell me your feelings about Lochner Roland00 - 26/04/2022 07:53:00 PM 537 Views
Simple, it was wrongly decided. Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 09:51:27 PM 513 Views
I think that is enough for the day Roland00 - 26/04/2022 11:07:42 PM 565 Views
I honestly don't give a fig about the constitution here... fionwe1987 - 26/04/2022 07:00:57 PM 589 Views
You can't have your cake and eat it too. Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 07:42:51 PM 568 Views
Uhhh fionwe1987 - 26/04/2022 07:54:13 PM 540 Views
I mean, yeah. Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 09:58:19 PM 544 Views
You seem to be arguing with an alternate version of me... fionwe1987 - 27/04/2022 04:46:46 AM 620 Views
Broad popular support? Dragonsoul - 27/04/2022 04:54:49 PM 537 Views
Cannoli is not wrong. damookster - 26/04/2022 05:09:49 PM 601 Views
Cannoli is a contemptuous moron fionwe1987 - 26/04/2022 06:56:33 PM 618 Views
I am contemptuous of you (and I suspect your vocabulary skills) Cannoli - 26/04/2022 09:30:55 PM 595 Views
Was the Catholic Church EVIL . Roland00 - 26/04/2022 07:01:50 PM 574 Views
As a general rule... fionwe1987 - 26/04/2022 07:06:24 PM 534 Views
Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes. Roland00 - 26/04/2022 07:32:33 PM 807 Views
The people who feel righteousness and can not acknowledge ambiguity well this kingdom will be theres Roland00 - 26/04/2022 07:34:10 PM 599 Views
Roland, I am neither supporting nor denying any specific theology in my original comment. damookster - 26/04/2022 08:28:31 PM 527 Views
And I am problematizing your claim Roland00 - 26/04/2022 08:34:17 PM 576 Views
hence, I introduced the problematic existence of exceptions to the law. *NM* damookster - 26/04/2022 08:54:02 PM 349 Views
Theodicy Roland00 - 26/04/2022 08:55:50 PM 604 Views
Re: Theodicy Cannoli - 26/04/2022 09:45:35 PM 594 Views
and yet... damookster - 26/04/2022 10:35:58 PM 574 Views
What is the Andrea Dworkin line again? Roland00 - 26/04/2022 11:06:30 PM 551 Views
You're correct about that. We are most assuredly talking past one another. damookster - 26/04/2022 11:39:01 PM 532 Views
Have not had a drink yet. Roland00 - 26/04/2022 11:46:59 PM 550 Views
I'd say about the same as covering up the child abuse issues. Cannoli - 26/04/2022 09:41:21 PM 587 Views
Pope Sixtus V In the 1580s is when abortion became a top down / pope and council issue. Roland00 - 26/04/2022 10:56:23 PM 639 Views
Leaked draft opinion Jeordam - 03/05/2022 06:42:20 PM 605 Views
John Roberts confirms it is real Roland00 - 03/05/2022 07:37:26 PM 562 Views
Results were leaked, not opinions. Dragonsoul - 03/05/2022 08:02:10 PM 511 Views
If you want to parse the history you are welcome to do so. Roland00 - 03/05/2022 08:32:06 PM 569 Views
You're either being willfully ignorant or disingenuous Dragonsoul - 03/05/2022 09:26:49 PM 583 Views
There's a very simple alternate reason fionwe1987 - 05/05/2022 06:36:26 AM 572 Views
“Wants to get the word out there ASAP” Dragonsoul - 05/05/2022 02:02:00 PM 519 Views
Re: “Wants to get the word out there ASAP” fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:18:24 PM 593 Views
He said, not coming up with any retort of his own. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 03:04:07 PM 518 Views
Re: He said, not coming up with any retort of his own. fionwe1987 - 09/05/2022 05:01:43 PM 499 Views
Don't blame me for your failures. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 05:21:48 PM 510 Views
Leaking also kind of locks in the 5 justices into a more radical decision Roland00 - 05/05/2022 04:08:58 PM 551 Views
Precisely. fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:22:16 PM 500 Views
Obvious intent my ass fionwe1987 - 05/05/2022 06:32:10 AM 548 Views
Treasonous Pieces of Junk Dragonsoul - 05/05/2022 01:58:23 PM 517 Views
I cannot commit treason fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:20:20 PM 535 Views
Neither am I. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 03:02:54 PM 535 Views
Projecting what? fionwe1987 - 09/05/2022 05:02:59 PM 537 Views
Is this a parody account? Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 05:25:39 PM 519 Views
Nope. TyrReborn - 12/05/2022 10:23:24 PM 530 Views
Well, if it's not a parody... Dragonsoul - 13/05/2022 07:46:45 PM 530 Views
Go look up what it means to “project” fionwe1987 - 13/05/2022 05:04:19 PM 529 Views
Stop shifting the goalposts Dragonsoul - 13/05/2022 07:45:21 PM 516 Views
There is no goalpost shifting fionwe1987 - 17/05/2022 12:48:18 PM 601 Views
Parody Account: Hypocrite, or Just Stupid? Dragonsoul - 17/05/2022 07:26:49 PM 557 Views
actually, Trump was impeached damookster - 05/05/2022 02:05:16 PM 531 Views
By Democrats and a few Republicans fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:21:38 PM 555 Views
you wrote: damookster - 06/05/2022 09:34:09 PM 504 Views
Ummm fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:42:57 PM 503 Views
Interesting is one word for it... fionwe1987 - 05/05/2022 06:38:23 AM 512 Views
That's your thought.... Jeordam - 06/05/2022 05:34:21 PM 576 Views
Hardly just mine fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:23:32 PM 508 Views
Interesting... Jeordam - 06/05/2022 10:33:56 PM 553 Views
Roe has restrictions fionwe1987 - 07/05/2022 03:16:32 AM 528 Views
So popular opinion is what decides recognition of life... entyti - 06/05/2022 10:44:08 PM 536 Views
Nice try fionwe1987 - 07/05/2022 03:19:35 AM 505 Views
No one said that, and you know it... entyti - 07/05/2022 05:56:04 AM 519 Views
Well that's a lot of empty noise fionwe1987 - 07/05/2022 02:46:48 PM 518 Views
Then stop listening to yourself… entyti - 07/05/2022 06:56:45 PM 586 Views
Serious reading comprehension fail here... fionwe1987 - 08/05/2022 05:01:28 PM 556 Views
Not reading comprehension. Thinking comprehension... and it's not on my account entyti - 09/05/2022 11:04:57 PM 543 Views
That is the Catholic Church's position after 1869, but lets do Idaho and LA Roland00 - 07/05/2022 10:08:39 PM 553 Views
And the Minoans practiced child sacrifice... entyti - 09/05/2022 11:51:44 PM 518 Views
So we are in agreement if we circle around Roland00 - 10/05/2022 02:34:19 AM 503 Views
Well, we agree it will get worse entyti - 10/05/2022 04:05:33 PM 530 Views
Thanks for explaining why Roe was egregiously wrong. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 03:56:52 PM 490 Views
Roe imposed nothing fionwe1987 - 09/05/2022 05:05:36 PM 554 Views
Actually, it does impose Jeordam - 09/05/2022 05:19:38 PM 748 Views
Re: Actually, it does impose fionwe1987 - 13/05/2022 05:09:04 PM 509 Views
Roe imposed abortion on states that banned it. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 05:26:56 PM 567 Views
States rights do not trump individual rights fionwe1987 - 13/05/2022 05:12:13 PM 532 Views
States rights regulate individual rights Dragonsoul - 13/05/2022 07:42:52 PM 570 Views
I am not allowed to get divorced in my state of Texas if my spouse is pregnant. Roland00 - 15/05/2022 07:59:19 PM 543 Views
Cool Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 12:10:57 AM 557 Views
So our state energy grid Roland00 - 16/05/2022 01:41:50 AM 534 Views
Wow, not sure I've seen you so angry before gban007 - 16/05/2022 08:12:58 AM 571 Views
Sadomasochism, aka cruelty has been the norm of Texas for a long time. Roland00 - 16/05/2022 05:56:26 PM 513 Views
Are you off your meds? Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 12:35:18 PM 475 Views
I live in the world the US set up Internment Camps in living memory, I known survivors. Roland00 - 16/05/2022 06:00:07 PM 524 Views
You're literally arguing with yourself. Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 08:00:37 PM 528 Views
That is precisely what I am afraid of Roland00 - 16/05/2022 08:07:41 PM 490 Views
That can literally be flipped right on to the other side. Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 08:19:02 PM 507 Views
Just a reminder freedom of movement is not in the US Constitution Roland00 - 16/05/2022 08:25:42 PM 529 Views
Again, you put words into my mouth that I've never said. Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 08:32:38 PM 508 Views
Who the fuck cares? fionwe1987 - 17/05/2022 12:54:48 PM 588 Views
Parody account strikes back! Dragonsoul - 17/05/2022 07:14:24 PM 512 Views
a few final thoughts damookster - 07/05/2022 07:18:38 PM 588 Views
In some ways, it probably would've been better if Roe v Wade had never happened. Legolas - 07/05/2022 08:20:17 PM 586 Views
I can always count on you for rational discussion. *NM* damookster - 07/05/2022 09:19:57 PM 352 Views
He really is wonderful. The Shrike - 09/05/2022 04:29:00 PM 556 Views
Let me join in. Yes. Legolas is good people. *NM* aerocontrols - 10/05/2022 02:52:37 PM 294 Views
It did happen though, sorry if I problematize your fantasy you are transversing Roland00 - 07/05/2022 10:35:12 PM 525 Views
Uh, it wasn't a fantasy... and you didn't problematize it so much as made some vague reflections? *NM* Legolas - 08/05/2022 12:37:23 AM 304 Views
Alternate histories are always fantasies *NM* Roland00 - 08/05/2022 01:03:48 AM 309 Views
History and Histrionic or perhaps Roland00 - 07/05/2022 10:25:23 PM 563 Views
The denominational distinctions within Christiandom aren't of concern to me... fionwe1987 - 08/05/2022 05:09:12 PM 648 Views
There is an easy answer for you. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 03:53:42 PM 536 Views
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