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Re: There are so many (partial)-solutions and no single one is going to solve it. Dragonsoul Send a noteboard - 26/05/2022 09:56:23 PM


And do not twist my words with providing those stats I just provided. Yes we have more guns on the streets and I do not have a magical fix that can fix them and just removing them from the streets is not going to fix the problem. But when you increase the number of guns you do not just increase crime you also increase all other forms of gun deaths such as accidental family member deaths, suicides', domestic violence that is deadly and non deadly, etc. I am signifying we tripled the amount of guns being bought per year to signify we have a big problem and it seems to be getting worse not better.

Except statistics don't back up that claim. In fact, as I pointed out in my above post (if you actually took the time to read it, which doesn't seem likely because I don't mention gun sales at all) the rate of gun deaths in the US has actually declined from prior years, adjusting for changes in population: "Despite the increase in such fatalities, the rate of gun deaths – a statistic that accounts for the nation’s growing population – remains below the levels of earlier years" (https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/02/03/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/).

So even though things to you may "seem" worse, the actual amount of people dying from guns in America, adjusted for changes in population, is actually fewer than in years past.



As for me being mad about all the other types of gun deaths, I am frickin mad about them too but me voicing it will not change anything even if I am infuriated by them. Ones heart can break only so many times that one does not even voice the fury. But one should not turn to nihlism.

I didn't say don't be mad, I said don't be hyperbolic. As in previous exchanges, you attempt to put words or arguments in my mouth that I've never said or made.

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If no one else wants to open this can of worms, I guess I’ll have to do it - 26/05/2022 02:07:18 AM 2382 Views
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Re: There are so many (partial)-solutions and no single one is going to solve it. - 26/05/2022 09:56:23 PM 927 Views
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