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Why not 'harden' all schools and kindergartens with armed guards ? AgentApple Send a noteboard - 30/05/2022 03:40:06 PM

Considering the political divide around this point as something that will not be resolved anytime soon, there should be a long term 'temporary' solution.

Schools should be fenced and gated with one or two armed guards depending on the size of the school.

In Israel every school and public kindergarten has an armed guard and it's been 30 years since a shooting incident in a school. Just the potential for such a terrible event is enough to ensure public support.
It's not perfect but usually guards are enough to deter potential troublemakers, sending them off to find an easier target.

OTOH most terrorists aren't as well equipped as American homegrown wackos.

In 30 years, every school in the West will have armed guards.




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If there's a better argument for a parent to go out and buy an AR-15 than armed cops preventing unarmed civilians, intent on protecting their children, from entering an active shooter zone, I don't really know what is.

America was founded on "well if those in charge won't fix shit, we will", and those cops threatening parents with tazers deserve to have their badge taken away at a minimum, and personally, I think they oughta lose their balls, too. Cowardice at that level, where you're biting at those on your own side, in this sort of situation, deserves the harshest punishment.

God forbid I ever have a kid, and I've no desire to own a gun, but if I did, those Texan "law enforcement officials" would have given me all the motivation I'd need to go buy whatever was necessary to protect my family.


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If no one else wants to open this can of worms, I guess I’ll have to do it damookster - 26/05/2022 02:07:18 AM 2476 Views
Unfortunately, there's not much to say. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 04:26:10 PM 976 Views
You are not going to get a non emotional discussion about guns, it will never ever be rational Roland00 - 26/05/2022 08:04:55 PM 951 Views
Re: You are not going to get a non emotional discussion about guns, it will never ever be rational Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 08:36:34 PM 1032 Views
There are so many (partial)-solutions and no single one is going to solve it. Roland00 - 26/05/2022 09:03:10 PM 884 Views
Unfortunately every time there is a mass shooting, gun sales spike. damookster - 26/05/2022 09:26:09 PM 1043 Views
Yes Roland00 - 26/05/2022 09:55:14 PM 874 Views
Re: There are so many (partial)-solutions and no single one is going to solve it. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 09:56:23 PM 986 Views
You understand two things can both be true, right? damookster - 26/05/2022 10:19:56 PM 957 Views
In such a way Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 10:27:52 PM 990 Views
What Mookie said, Sense and Sensibility with Perspective Roland00 - 26/05/2022 10:29:04 PM 1034 Views
Oh yes, everyone is to blame, and hence no one fionwe1987 - 26/05/2022 04:58:37 PM 978 Views
You obviously don't know anything about Canada's gun laws. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 05:20:25 PM 1253 Views
Remarkable fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 03:55:54 AM 972 Views
4% PAL acquisition is, in essence, a ban. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 04:13:45 AM 888 Views
Well, that was a load of chickenshit fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 05:08:29 AM 970 Views
He said, running away. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 11:34:19 AM 1089 Views
He said, running away. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 11:34:20 AM 844 Views
You are the RAFO poster child for inability to hold a rational discussion that includes disagreement damookster - 26/05/2022 06:50:11 PM 1134 Views
No, we're just disagreeing on what is rational, that is all... fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 03:42:23 AM 954 Views
You just don’t get it. damookster - 27/05/2022 04:22:55 AM 1230 Views
I think the same of you... fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 05:05:43 AM 881 Views
Article VI, Clause II damookster - 27/05/2022 05:17:40 AM 1191 Views
You're like a broken record. fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 05:23:52 AM 1100 Views
Bro you literally come from a country that plays nuclear chicken with Pakistan. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 11:40:07 AM 917 Views
And? fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 02:24:09 PM 862 Views
Lol Parody account confirmed. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 04:04:56 PM 909 Views
Your repertoire of insults needs expansion. Keep trying. fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 04:27:35 PM 833 Views
He said, not coming up with any retort of his own. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 09:58:30 PM 1071 Views
whooops *NM* Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 09:58:03 PM 554 Views
Oh, fuck off. TyrReborn - 27/05/2022 06:21:45 PM 1039 Views
Why is liking the Constitution a binary thing? Roland00 - 27/05/2022 08:36:12 PM 1042 Views
As you point out, it isn’t binary at all. damookster - 27/05/2022 09:16:18 PM 943 Views
*NM* Roland00 - 27/05/2022 09:55:28 PM 450 Views
Loyalty is to God, Family, Community, and only then State. TyrReborn - 27/05/2022 09:55:58 PM 1006 Views
The founding fathers have a dream, where dreams start and reality begin Roland00 - 27/05/2022 11:39:07 PM 882 Views
This is wonderfully meandering and thought-provoking, but woefully insubstantial for understanding. *NM* TyrReborn - 28/05/2022 12:10:04 AM 596 Views
It is not fionwe1987 - 28/05/2022 07:19:32 AM 931 Views
Re: Oh, fuck off. fionwe1987 - 28/05/2022 06:53:38 AM 882 Views
That's a lot of words to say absolutely nothing. TyrReborn - 28/05/2022 06:56:05 PM 864 Views
When you shut your eyes, of course you can only see nothing fionwe1987 - 28/05/2022 09:43:13 PM 864 Views
A dead child for freedom is the choice made every abortion. TyrReborn - 30/05/2022 08:16:18 PM 856 Views
Oh really? Then explain to me... fionwe1987 - 31/05/2022 08:41:09 PM 905 Views
That baby isn't a baby, but that man is a woman TyrReborn - 01/06/2022 01:57:40 AM 1171 Views
How would the world be different Roland00 - 26/05/2022 07:03:22 PM 921 Views
Yes and if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle damookster - 26/05/2022 07:14:08 PM 1173 Views
I do not believe the original thread was made with curiosity or charity in mind. Roland00 - 26/05/2022 07:24:20 PM 888 Views
Well isn’t this the pot calling the kettle black. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 07:33:12 PM 1133 Views
Well it is about respectability politics you see Roland00 - 26/05/2022 07:38:59 PM 887 Views
You're one of those men. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 08:27:53 PM 1115 Views
Hypocrisy Roland00 - 26/05/2022 08:42:17 PM 841 Views
I don't know whether English is your first language Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 10:00:04 PM 947 Views
Your attempt at mind reading is an abject failure. damookster - 26/05/2022 07:58:07 PM 1026 Views
You started with Foreclosure Roland00 - 26/05/2022 08:08:36 PM 966 Views
Foreclosure, huh damookster - 26/05/2022 08:48:50 PM 952 Views
My advice is listen to the podcast I linked Dragonsoul *NM* Roland00 - 26/05/2022 09:05:13 PM 491 Views
One more thing Roland00 - 26/05/2022 07:25:22 PM 897 Views
And I guess this post proves my point, lol. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 07:34:48 PM 853 Views
Did I trigger you? damookster - 26/05/2022 07:50:02 PM 786 Views
You screaming get off my lawn is inherently causes an urge to egg your house *NM* Roland00 - 26/05/2022 08:05:48 PM 577 Views
~soaks Roland with the jet nozzle as I hose the egg off my front porch~ *NM* damookster - 26/05/2022 08:50:22 PM 476 Views
Never owned a gun, but I support gun rights. But... TyrReborn - 27/05/2022 02:51:26 AM 848 Views
I pretty much agree. damookster - 27/05/2022 03:18:38 AM 1158 Views
Yep, what Tyr said *NM* Roland00 - 27/05/2022 03:27:33 AM 432 Views
The NY Yankees are now tweeting about guns. Roland00 - 27/05/2022 03:26:45 AM 996 Views
Bah damookster - 27/05/2022 04:25:25 AM 996 Views
Baseball twitter is bad Roland00 - 27/05/2022 04:29:15 AM 799 Views
UPDATE on the shooter, Salvador Ramos damookster - 27/05/2022 03:27:59 PM 1030 Views
Can't be more of a disgrace than waiting an hour to go in and kill him. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 04:05:58 PM 1019 Views
Re: Can't be more of a disgrace than waiting an hour to go in and kill him. damookster - 27/05/2022 04:15:22 PM 876 Views
I disagree. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 10:02:23 PM 839 Views
And if one of the fathers went in and accidentally killed another child and not the shooter? Roland00 - 27/05/2022 11:46:17 PM 841 Views
Thats a good point, and something I didn’t consider when I wrote my response. Dragonsoul - 28/05/2022 12:08:48 AM 811 Views
Understanding with Madness and all that stuff Roland00 - 28/05/2022 12:50:35 AM 1080 Views
It's funny how the left thinks only cops should have guns, but also ACAB. TyrReborn - 27/05/2022 06:15:23 PM 1043 Views
They already lost their balls. damookster - 27/05/2022 06:52:52 PM 879 Views
I am glad you protect your family Roland00 - 27/05/2022 08:46:05 PM 952 Views
But see, this is why the death of community and religion is bad for America. TyrReborn - 27/05/2022 10:12:49 PM 944 Views
Charles Whitman took his rifles to the tower at UT Austin in 1966 and killed 14 random people. damookster - 27/05/2022 10:21:42 PM 1071 Views
And in May 1928, a maniac bombed a school in Michigan, killing 44. TyrReborn - 27/05/2022 11:46:34 PM 1158 Views
I think the presence of visual imagery provides a mimetic response Roland00 - 27/05/2022 11:52:32 PM 853 Views
Reasonable, but even then, that's merely another condemnation for the modern world. TyrReborn - 28/05/2022 12:06:30 AM 1062 Views
I agree Roland00 - 28/05/2022 12:56:10 AM 840 Views
I haven't said "bAn GuNs!1" Roland00 - 27/05/2022 11:33:43 PM 984 Views
This is taken from the late Justice Scalia’s majority opinion in 2008’s DC vs. Heller damookster - 27/05/2022 11:50:40 PM 1150 Views
Please do not relitigate Heller with me Roland00 - 27/05/2022 11:59:21 PM 839 Views
I wasn’t and will not. damookster - 28/05/2022 01:01:59 AM 817 Views
We would scare them off that is what Roland00 - 28/05/2022 01:43:11 AM 838 Views
You chose wisely damookster - 28/05/2022 02:59:47 AM 918 Views
You did not. My apologies. TyrReborn - 28/05/2022 12:03:43 AM 845 Views
Why not 'harden' all schools and kindergartens with armed guards ? AgentApple - 30/05/2022 03:40:06 PM 961 Views
You're completely right and I hate it. TyrReborn - 30/05/2022 08:24:29 PM 941 Views
Another podcast I enjoyed Roland00 - 27/05/2022 08:26:56 PM 841 Views
This thread is reminiscint of the classic Wotmania debates from the aughts. damookster - 29/05/2022 12:22:47 AM 1113 Views
Nobody would like my idea, but personally, I think Korea's 2 year mandatory service would do us good TyrReborn - 30/05/2022 08:30:37 PM 964 Views
Yep there is zero chance that will happen. Roland00 - 31/05/2022 10:32:06 PM 1202 Views
Interesting damookster - 31/05/2022 10:56:53 PM 964 Views
Re: Yep there is zero chance that will happen. TyrReborn - 01/06/2022 01:50:37 AM 988 Views
Believe it or not I am not always a Grump Roland00 - 01/06/2022 03:38:16 AM 828 Views
Hot damn, Moolin Rouge was fantastic! *NM* entyti - 01/06/2022 09:36:04 PM 831 Views
What about trans-men entyti - 31/05/2022 10:07:21 PM 1059 Views
an intriguing question damookster - 31/05/2022 10:34:39 PM 880 Views
It's all tongue-in-cheek, and isn't that dumb? TyrReborn - 01/06/2022 02:01:04 AM 998 Views
Can the 21 year olds Roland00 - 01/06/2022 03:44:08 AM 864 Views
You know, fair enough. If they're old enough to smoke, and they have a doctor that'll rx it, sure. *NM* TyrReborn - 01/06/2022 03:59:17 AM 501 Views
Something tells me this won't factor in anyone's favor... entyti - 01/06/2022 09:08:31 PM 888 Views
Wait, the *late* conservative Justice Alito? fionwe1987 - 01/06/2022 03:56:19 PM 1058 Views
my bad damookster - 01/06/2022 05:09:22 PM 989 Views
The Uvalde Police Department and the Uvalde Independent School District police force are no longer Roland00 - 31/05/2022 11:45:32 PM 899 Views
The Uvalde police incompetence is totally indistinguishable from a cover-up at this point Roland00 - 04/06/2022 07:50:04 PM 1005 Views
Until the existing gun laws are actually enforced, I am not willing to entertain any new ones HyogaRott - 09/06/2022 09:55:41 PM 1270 Views
Oh yeah, and I am sick of the hyperbolic gaslighting by both sides HyogaRott - 09/06/2022 10:02:25 PM 1047 Views
Anarchy, the State, and UTOPIA ! Roland00 - 10/06/2022 08:25:05 PM 826 Views
It gets darker and darker Roland00 - 22/06/2022 02:10:08 AM 1059 Views
It's so bad dude. So bad. Those poor souls... *NM* TyrReborn - 30/06/2022 05:04:56 PM 526 Views
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