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Nobody would like my idea, but personally, I think Korea's 2 year mandatory service would do us good TyrReborn Send a noteboard - 30/05/2022 08:30:37 PM

Granted, I say this as someone the military said "thanks no thanks" to, so grain of salt yadda yadda


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I would go further, if it was up to me. If it were possible, I would make it very difficult for a male to buy a gun before he turns 25. There's a reason why male car insurance rates are absurdly higher than females until their 25th birthday. If 18-24 year old men are measurably more reckless when operating an automobile, why entrust them with a gun? Yes, we arm 18 year olds in the military, but they have pretty intense training and supervision.

If we can trust them to defend our nation we can trust them to defend themselves. That said, clearly, that only applies to those who are soldiers. That also said, this is precisely why I think mandatory service would be good.

Not to mention it would give a paper trail for people who are truly mentally unwell to be noticed, tracked, and hopefully helped.

There's 0 chance this happens though.



The late conservative Justice Alito wrote that like all rights, the Second Amendment is not limitless. The chances of national laws that resemble those in Connecticut are realistically not very good. But hopefully more states will tighten their laws. Connecticut, New York and California are examples of states who's strict laws have passed Constitutional muster.

So far. Aren't some of them being challenged currently? I don't own guns so it's not something I keep up with, but I seem to recall hearing something about the possibility of SCOTUS expanding gun rights, which, holy shit, wouldn't that be an awful look.

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If no one else wants to open this can of worms, I guess I’ll have to do it damookster - 26/05/2022 02:07:18 AM 2316 Views
Unfortunately, there's not much to say. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 04:26:10 PM 878 Views
You are not going to get a non emotional discussion about guns, it will never ever be rational Roland00 - 26/05/2022 08:04:55 PM 884 Views
Re: You are not going to get a non emotional discussion about guns, it will never ever be rational Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 08:36:34 PM 902 Views
There are so many (partial)-solutions and no single one is going to solve it. Roland00 - 26/05/2022 09:03:10 PM 802 Views
Unfortunately every time there is a mass shooting, gun sales spike. damookster - 26/05/2022 09:26:09 PM 947 Views
Yes Roland00 - 26/05/2022 09:55:14 PM 797 Views
Re: There are so many (partial)-solutions and no single one is going to solve it. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 09:56:23 PM 881 Views
You understand two things can both be true, right? damookster - 26/05/2022 10:19:56 PM 859 Views
In such a way Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 10:27:52 PM 869 Views
What Mookie said, Sense and Sensibility with Perspective Roland00 - 26/05/2022 10:29:04 PM 918 Views
Oh yes, everyone is to blame, and hence no one fionwe1987 - 26/05/2022 04:58:37 PM 875 Views
You obviously don't know anything about Canada's gun laws. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 05:20:25 PM 1085 Views
Remarkable fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 03:55:54 AM 877 Views
4% PAL acquisition is, in essence, a ban. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 04:13:45 AM 813 Views
Well, that was a load of chickenshit fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 05:08:29 AM 868 Views
He said, running away. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 11:34:19 AM 981 Views
He said, running away. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 11:34:20 AM 778 Views
You are the RAFO poster child for inability to hold a rational discussion that includes disagreement damookster - 26/05/2022 06:50:11 PM 985 Views
No, we're just disagreeing on what is rational, that is all... fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 03:42:23 AM 849 Views
You just don’t get it. damookster - 27/05/2022 04:22:55 AM 1058 Views
I think the same of you... fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 05:05:43 AM 809 Views
Article VI, Clause II damookster - 27/05/2022 05:17:40 AM 1030 Views
You're like a broken record. fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 05:23:52 AM 965 Views
Bro you literally come from a country that plays nuclear chicken with Pakistan. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 11:40:07 AM 845 Views
And? fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 02:24:09 PM 789 Views
Lol Parody account confirmed. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 04:04:56 PM 835 Views
Your repertoire of insults needs expansion. Keep trying. fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 04:27:35 PM 756 Views
He said, not coming up with any retort of his own. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 09:58:30 PM 960 Views
whooops *NM* Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 09:58:03 PM 488 Views
Oh, fuck off. TyrReborn - 27/05/2022 06:21:45 PM 924 Views
Why is liking the Constitution a binary thing? Roland00 - 27/05/2022 08:36:12 PM 921 Views
As you point out, it isn’t binary at all. damookster - 27/05/2022 09:16:18 PM 846 Views
*NM* Roland00 - 27/05/2022 09:55:28 PM 408 Views
Loyalty is to God, Family, Community, and only then State. TyrReborn - 27/05/2022 09:55:58 PM 892 Views
The founding fathers have a dream, where dreams start and reality begin Roland00 - 27/05/2022 11:39:07 PM 821 Views
This is wonderfully meandering and thought-provoking, but woefully insubstantial for understanding. *NM* TyrReborn - 28/05/2022 12:10:04 AM 525 Views
It is not fionwe1987 - 28/05/2022 07:19:32 AM 840 Views
Re: Oh, fuck off. fionwe1987 - 28/05/2022 06:53:38 AM 801 Views
That's a lot of words to say absolutely nothing. TyrReborn - 28/05/2022 06:56:05 PM 796 Views
When you shut your eyes, of course you can only see nothing fionwe1987 - 28/05/2022 09:43:13 PM 793 Views
A dead child for freedom is the choice made every abortion. TyrReborn - 30/05/2022 08:16:18 PM 784 Views
Oh really? Then explain to me... fionwe1987 - 31/05/2022 08:41:09 PM 825 Views
That baby isn't a baby, but that man is a woman TyrReborn - 01/06/2022 01:57:40 AM 1012 Views
How would the world be different Roland00 - 26/05/2022 07:03:22 PM 842 Views
Yes and if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle damookster - 26/05/2022 07:14:08 PM 1075 Views
I do not believe the original thread was made with curiosity or charity in mind. Roland00 - 26/05/2022 07:24:20 PM 807 Views
Well isn’t this the pot calling the kettle black. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 07:33:12 PM 998 Views
Well it is about respectability politics you see Roland00 - 26/05/2022 07:38:59 PM 814 Views
You're one of those men. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 08:27:53 PM 971 Views
Hypocrisy Roland00 - 26/05/2022 08:42:17 PM 762 Views
I don't know whether English is your first language Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 10:00:04 PM 843 Views
Your attempt at mind reading is an abject failure. damookster - 26/05/2022 07:58:07 PM 909 Views
You started with Foreclosure Roland00 - 26/05/2022 08:08:36 PM 855 Views
Foreclosure, huh damookster - 26/05/2022 08:48:50 PM 844 Views
My advice is listen to the podcast I linked Dragonsoul *NM* Roland00 - 26/05/2022 09:05:13 PM 431 Views
One more thing Roland00 - 26/05/2022 07:25:22 PM 828 Views
And I guess this post proves my point, lol. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 07:34:48 PM 780 Views
Did I trigger you? damookster - 26/05/2022 07:50:02 PM 717 Views
You screaming get off my lawn is inherently causes an urge to egg your house *NM* Roland00 - 26/05/2022 08:05:48 PM 498 Views
~soaks Roland with the jet nozzle as I hose the egg off my front porch~ *NM* damookster - 26/05/2022 08:50:22 PM 414 Views
Never owned a gun, but I support gun rights. But... TyrReborn - 27/05/2022 02:51:26 AM 778 Views
I pretty much agree. damookster - 27/05/2022 03:18:38 AM 1003 Views
Yep, what Tyr said *NM* Roland00 - 27/05/2022 03:27:33 AM 391 Views
The NY Yankees are now tweeting about guns. Roland00 - 27/05/2022 03:26:45 AM 866 Views
Bah damookster - 27/05/2022 04:25:25 AM 889 Views
Baseball twitter is bad Roland00 - 27/05/2022 04:29:15 AM 715 Views
UPDATE on the shooter, Salvador Ramos damookster - 27/05/2022 03:27:59 PM 922 Views
Can't be more of a disgrace than waiting an hour to go in and kill him. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 04:05:58 PM 880 Views
Re: Can't be more of a disgrace than waiting an hour to go in and kill him. damookster - 27/05/2022 04:15:22 PM 802 Views
I disagree. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 10:02:23 PM 761 Views
And if one of the fathers went in and accidentally killed another child and not the shooter? Roland00 - 27/05/2022 11:46:17 PM 761 Views
Thats a good point, and something I didn’t consider when I wrote my response. Dragonsoul - 28/05/2022 12:08:48 AM 741 Views
Understanding with Madness and all that stuff Roland00 - 28/05/2022 12:50:35 AM 925 Views
It's funny how the left thinks only cops should have guns, but also ACAB. TyrReborn - 27/05/2022 06:15:23 PM 910 Views
They already lost their balls. damookster - 27/05/2022 06:52:52 PM 797 Views
I am glad you protect your family Roland00 - 27/05/2022 08:46:05 PM 828 Views
But see, this is why the death of community and religion is bad for America. TyrReborn - 27/05/2022 10:12:49 PM 844 Views
Charles Whitman took his rifles to the tower at UT Austin in 1966 and killed 14 random people. damookster - 27/05/2022 10:21:42 PM 941 Views
And in May 1928, a maniac bombed a school in Michigan, killing 44. TyrReborn - 27/05/2022 11:46:34 PM 996 Views
I think the presence of visual imagery provides a mimetic response Roland00 - 27/05/2022 11:52:32 PM 788 Views
Reasonable, but even then, that's merely another condemnation for the modern world. TyrReborn - 28/05/2022 12:06:30 AM 924 Views
I agree Roland00 - 28/05/2022 12:56:10 AM 764 Views
I haven't said "bAn GuNs!1" Roland00 - 27/05/2022 11:33:43 PM 871 Views
This is taken from the late Justice Scalia’s majority opinion in 2008’s DC vs. Heller damookster - 27/05/2022 11:50:40 PM 1011 Views
Please do not relitigate Heller with me Roland00 - 27/05/2022 11:59:21 PM 755 Views
I wasn’t and will not. damookster - 28/05/2022 01:01:59 AM 752 Views
We would scare them off that is what Roland00 - 28/05/2022 01:43:11 AM 749 Views
You chose wisely damookster - 28/05/2022 02:59:47 AM 834 Views
You did not. My apologies. TyrReborn - 28/05/2022 12:03:43 AM 776 Views
Why not 'harden' all schools and kindergartens with armed guards ? AgentApple - 30/05/2022 03:40:06 PM 838 Views
You're completely right and I hate it. TyrReborn - 30/05/2022 08:24:29 PM 822 Views
Another podcast I enjoyed Roland00 - 27/05/2022 08:26:56 PM 772 Views
This thread is reminiscint of the classic Wotmania debates from the aughts. damookster - 29/05/2022 12:22:47 AM 991 Views
Nobody would like my idea, but personally, I think Korea's 2 year mandatory service would do us good TyrReborn - 30/05/2022 08:30:37 PM 859 Views
Yep there is zero chance that will happen. Roland00 - 31/05/2022 10:32:06 PM 1026 Views
Interesting damookster - 31/05/2022 10:56:53 PM 853 Views
Re: Yep there is zero chance that will happen. TyrReborn - 01/06/2022 01:50:37 AM 879 Views
Believe it or not I am not always a Grump Roland00 - 01/06/2022 03:38:16 AM 742 Views
Hot damn, Moolin Rouge was fantastic! *NM* entyti - 01/06/2022 09:36:04 PM 748 Views
What about trans-men entyti - 31/05/2022 10:07:21 PM 918 Views
an intriguing question damookster - 31/05/2022 10:34:39 PM 799 Views
It's all tongue-in-cheek, and isn't that dumb? TyrReborn - 01/06/2022 02:01:04 AM 871 Views
Can the 21 year olds Roland00 - 01/06/2022 03:44:08 AM 785 Views
You know, fair enough. If they're old enough to smoke, and they have a doctor that'll rx it, sure. *NM* TyrReborn - 01/06/2022 03:59:17 AM 438 Views
Something tells me this won't factor in anyone's favor... entyti - 01/06/2022 09:08:31 PM 811 Views
Wait, the *late* conservative Justice Alito? fionwe1987 - 01/06/2022 03:56:19 PM 933 Views
my bad damookster - 01/06/2022 05:09:22 PM 876 Views
The Uvalde Police Department and the Uvalde Independent School District police force are no longer Roland00 - 31/05/2022 11:45:32 PM 822 Views
The Uvalde police incompetence is totally indistinguishable from a cover-up at this point Roland00 - 04/06/2022 07:50:04 PM 908 Views
Until the existing gun laws are actually enforced, I am not willing to entertain any new ones HyogaRott - 09/06/2022 09:55:41 PM 1094 Views
Oh yeah, and I am sick of the hyperbolic gaslighting by both sides HyogaRott - 09/06/2022 10:02:25 PM 948 Views
Anarchy, the State, and UTOPIA ! Roland00 - 10/06/2022 08:25:05 PM 757 Views
It gets darker and darker Roland00 - 22/06/2022 02:10:08 AM 923 Views
It's so bad dude. So bad. Those poor souls... *NM* TyrReborn - 30/06/2022 05:04:56 PM 455 Views
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