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Indeed. TyrReborn Send a noteboard - 14/08/2023 09:50:53 PM

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And if there somehow were, it would make sense for there to be medical intervention to stop people from killing themselves.

Or even to stop people from simply being miserable.


It's almost like there's other ways to help people be happy. Almost like it shouldn't be "binary" choice between "suicide" and "self-mutilation".

Almost like you're supposed to grow up and eventually learn to accept yourself.

Almost like humanity has for hundreds of thousands of years.

But I'm the crazy one with the mental illness, yep; transphobia.

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“Can you imagine our reading that James Madison or Thomas Jefferson tried to overthrow the gov't?" TyrReborn - 03/08/2023 09:02:48 PM 1866 Views
I'm curious as to your point in posting this. damookster - 04/08/2023 03:17:48 AM 763 Views
The point is that these uneducated dumbass race-baiters dare to lecture us TyrReborn - 04/08/2023 05:33:36 PM 667 Views
. . . The Shrike - 05/08/2023 02:14:20 PM 711 Views
You're entitled to your optimistic view TyrReborn - 05/08/2023 04:24:33 PM 697 Views
You only think your view is realistic because you haven't studied enough history. The Shrike - 06/08/2023 04:04:34 PM 740 Views
You're entitled to your optimistic view. *NM* TyrReborn - 06/08/2023 09:18:39 PM 317 Views
Not only is this statistically incorrect, it's historically incorrect. Ghavrel - 08/08/2023 11:35:42 PM 706 Views
Sigh, I understand that it's hard to grasp these days, with our medical miracles, TyrReborn - 14/08/2023 05:52:01 PM 703 Views
Disease is counted as part of wartime casualties. Ghavrel - 14/08/2023 08:17:53 PM 678 Views
And Covid killed 1000000 Americans lol TyrReborn - 14/08/2023 09:49:02 PM 722 Views
You didn't cherry pick anything. You just decided that the consensus of experts is incorrect. Ghavrel - 14/08/2023 11:37:05 PM 695 Views
Died of =/= died from, and died during =/= killed TyrReborn - 17/08/2023 04:58:08 PM 720 Views
I don't think so Tom - 07/08/2023 01:54:05 PM 718 Views
These facts would cause you to be denounced as a "putinite fascist"... TyrReborn - 07/08/2023 05:45:05 PM 680 Views
Well, of course it's going to pass Tom - 07/08/2023 06:55:12 PM 737 Views
Tom, you are being far too reasonable. That doesn’t fly in 2023! *NM* damookster - 08/08/2023 12:22:49 AM 322 Views
He is, which is why, I think, he is wrong. *NM* TyrReborn - 08/08/2023 10:18:32 PM 336 Views
I just can't buy that the political and academic class will give up their grip so easily. TyrReborn - 08/08/2023 05:49:58 PM 670 Views
Academics have been pro Marxism for over 100 years. It's nothing new. *NM* damookster - 08/08/2023 05:59:55 PM 333 Views
Maybe. But they've never been this spiteful or spoiled before. TyrReborn - 09/08/2023 01:29:30 PM 653 Views
No, they only recruited students to spy for the Soviets *NM* damookster - 14/08/2023 06:18:58 PM 310 Views
Yes. They do that now, too. Except it's the Chinese. *NM* TyrReborn - 14/08/2023 09:51:37 PM 323 Views
Do you have sources for that 'far more conservative and far more religious' claim? Legolas - 09/08/2023 07:35:50 PM 682 Views
In regards to more conservative, The Shrike - 09/08/2023 08:35:03 PM 718 Views
You see all this fury because a random dude on the internet calls a dude a dude TyrReborn - 17/08/2023 03:31:00 PM 665 Views
I side with Greg and Tom in this discussion. damookster - 08/08/2023 05:57:54 PM 683 Views
I don't suppose linking medical articles is going to help too much here, but... Ghavrel - 08/08/2023 11:28:05 PM 717 Views
Elizabeth, you know I have a non binary grandchild. damookster - 09/08/2023 01:22:32 AM 742 Views
Yeah, I know, I just think that the statistics are dangerous. Ghavrel - 09/08/2023 04:36:40 AM 665 Views
Respectfully, do you truly believe this? TyrReborn - 09/08/2023 05:42:31 PM 687 Views
I'll bite... Legolas - 09/08/2023 06:39:46 PM 680 Views
Thanks. <3 *NM* Ghavrel - 09/08/2023 08:27:13 PM 320 Views
Your thoughts AgentApple - 11/08/2023 04:14:37 PM 665 Views
Yes, that's true. Legolas - 11/08/2023 06:11:49 PM 706 Views
Re: Yes, that's true. AgentApple - 12/08/2023 04:25:28 PM 641 Views
The issue itself isn't necessarily - the way it's being used, however, is. Legolas - 14/08/2023 05:44:35 PM 663 Views
This is not bait, I am legitimately trying to understand. And if I understand correctly... TyrReborn - 11/08/2023 05:17:02 PM 756 Views
As I said, it wasn't intended as perfect analogy - it's about how much say should children have. Legolas - 11/08/2023 06:44:33 PM 700 Views
No, seriously, only the last one was intended as parody. And I'd like an explanation. TyrReborn - 14/08/2023 05:43:37 PM 664 Views
There aren't a lot of people committing suicide over their teeth coming in. Ghavrel - 14/08/2023 08:21:29 PM 676 Views
Indeed. TyrReborn - 14/08/2023 09:50:53 PM 644 Views
You aren't mentally ill because of your views. You're just an asshole. Ghavrel - 14/08/2023 11:35:13 PM 686 Views
Re: No, seriously, only the last one was intended as parody. And I'd like an explanation. Legolas - 15/08/2023 04:14:57 PM 707 Views
See, you're willing to discuss, instead of insult. Others on this board might take note. TyrReborn - 17/08/2023 05:18:39 PM 678 Views
Yeah, well, I have the luxury of an outsider's position... Legolas - 23/08/2023 11:47:24 PM 700 Views
Nobody is an outsider when reality is being attacked. TyrReborn - 25/08/2023 05:40:43 PM 665 Views
Fun facts Vodalus - 26/08/2023 06:22:57 AM 745 Views
There's some evidence that hormonal changes in utero are related to transgenderism. *NM* Ghavrel - 26/08/2023 11:26:21 PM 317 Views
Naturally occurring or iatrogenic? *NM* Vodalus - 26/08/2023 11:37:06 PM 331 Views
The studies are about naturally occuring variance, but that doesn't rule out other causes. *NM* Ghavrel - 28/08/2023 12:03:16 AM 345 Views
Not really "fun" so much as "a sad reality of biology", but yes. TyrReborn - 27/08/2023 09:42:14 PM 697 Views
Imagine if you had the same attitude towards trans people. Ghavrel - 28/08/2023 12:02:34 AM 662 Views
I may be no endocrinologist, but I at least understand simple biology. XY =/= XX =/= XXY TyrReborn - 28/08/2023 05:40:14 PM 637 Views
One can be an adult trans person and not support mutilation of children. *NM* damookster - 28/08/2023 07:49:32 PM 322 Views
Fair enough. I have some measure of respect for "Caitlyn" Jenner. You do you homie. *NM* TyrReborn - 29/08/2023 04:54:13 AM 311 Views
Simple is definitely true. Shame you never learned biology past what you were taught in high school. Ghavrel - 28/08/2023 11:21:38 PM 654 Views
Right, cause we're "butterflies" TyrReborn - 29/08/2023 04:57:20 AM 646 Views
I go to mass more than you. *NM* Ghavrel - 29/08/2023 09:58:09 AM 327 Views
Wow, really? And you still mutilated your body and told God that He was wrong about you? TyrReborn - 31/08/2023 05:44:32 PM 669 Views
I must say, The Shrike - 31/08/2023 07:04:47 PM 735 Views
Love is being true. Love is being honest. Love is God. TyrReborn - 31/08/2023 07:52:59 PM 666 Views
I appreciate that a great deal. Thank you. I think very highly of you, too. *NM* Ghavrel - 01/09/2023 04:44:58 AM 340 Views
Really went off the deep end there huh... Legolas - 31/08/2023 10:39:02 PM 650 Views
At least my beliefs can't be disproven by a $40 test at Wal-Mart. TyrReborn - 02/09/2023 03:40:43 PM 649 Views
It's ok. Many of us are quite sad for you too. The Shrike - 29/08/2023 11:10:32 AM 666 Views
I couldn't care less what unbelievers think. You'll meet the Truth, one day. TyrReborn - 31/08/2023 05:45:31 PM 638 Views
No such thing as damnation, but thanks. The Shrike - 31/08/2023 06:55:23 PM 668 Views
Then nothing more needs to be said. See who support your lies, Ghav? They literally deny Love. *NM* TyrReborn - 31/08/2023 07:54:23 PM 330 Views
He understands love a lot better than you do. *NM* Ghavrel - 01/09/2023 04:46:14 AM 323 Views
Hah! I knew you didn't worship God. Thanks for admitting it. *NM* TyrReborn - 02/09/2023 03:38:43 PM 337 Views
You're simply acting deranged at this point. Ghavrel - 03/09/2023 01:13:20 AM 718 Views
I hope you don't call yourselves Christian. TyrReborn - 03/09/2023 04:11:06 AM 609 Views
Of course I'm Christian. I confess the faith of the apostles and of the councils. Ghavrel - 03/09/2023 11:41:56 AM 655 Views
Would you castrate Michelangelo's David? TyrReborn - 03/09/2023 09:03:07 PM 632 Views
Dude, you have really driven this off the deep end. damookster - 03/09/2023 04:03:16 PM 647 Views
It is not, and I am not. TyrReborn - 03/09/2023 09:06:48 PM 668 Views
You absolutely are damookster - 03/09/2023 09:27:00 PM 662 Views
Caution is not condemnation. Warning is not judgment. TyrReborn - 03/09/2023 11:05:17 PM 646 Views
Bro, I'm not worried about your immortal soul. damookster - 03/09/2023 11:35:41 PM 674 Views
I get that. But Ghav, supposedly, is. TyrReborn - 04/09/2023 12:09:55 AM 658 Views
You’ve expressed some pretty odious and ugly sentiments. Vodalus - 03/09/2023 10:07:51 PM 649 Views
Yeah, I'm definitely an outsider, and so are you. Legolas - 28/08/2023 07:49:48 PM 649 Views
Ok. TyrReborn - 29/08/2023 05:09:14 AM 652 Views
Schizophrenics suffer violent crime at 14x rate. Is America "schizophobic"? TyrReborn - 01/09/2023 05:01:18 PM 659 Views
I'll chew... entyti - 11/08/2023 10:35:45 PM 702 Views
What's your stance on parents who refuse medical treatment for their children with cancer? Ghavrel - 11/08/2023 11:12:21 PM 694 Views
I think... entyti - 11/08/2023 11:37:52 PM 678 Views
Really? damookster - 12/08/2023 12:02:12 AM 658 Views
Am I being unreasonable? entyti - 12/08/2023 05:16:06 AM 710 Views
Maybe not damookster - 12/08/2023 03:38:50 PM 707 Views
Most of us don't really like "the gays," either. And referring to people as "blacks" is offensive. *NM* Ghavrel - 13/08/2023 12:34:32 AM 310 Views
... is referring to people as "whites" offensive? I really, really hope you say yes. *NM* TyrReborn - 14/08/2023 05:46:07 PM 359 Views
Unfortunately for whites, gays, blacks, and transgenders... entyti - 14/08/2023 06:09:47 PM 648 Views
Their voice only counts *NM* damookster - 14/08/2023 06:20:32 PM 304 Views
Touché *NM* entyti - 14/08/2023 07:12:54 PM 302 Views
You can always choose not to be a dick online. *NM* Ghavrel - 14/08/2023 08:19:52 PM 283 Views
Now why would I want to do that? entyti - 14/08/2023 11:24:09 PM 644 Views
You're not a dick. You're honest. TyrReborn - 14/08/2023 09:54:34 PM 653 Views
Why not both? entyti - 15/08/2023 03:01:58 AM 702 Views
Sad, but true. TyrReborn - 17/08/2023 05:22:11 PM 666 Views
Re: I think... Ghavrel - 13/08/2023 12:35:05 AM 669 Views
Re: I'll chew... Legolas - 12/08/2023 03:49:47 PM 702 Views
Re: I'll chew... entyti - 14/08/2023 10:56:15 PM 657 Views
Re: I'll chew... Legolas - 15/08/2023 11:32:12 PM 696 Views
3 weeks later, did you have fun with this thread Tyr? *NM* Roland00 - 28/08/2023 08:16:13 PM 325 Views
We went a bit afield, sure, but hey, the board has a discussion going, doesn't it? *NM* TyrReborn - 29/08/2023 05:00:03 AM 295 Views
Well take care Roland00 - 31/08/2023 11:06:43 PM 735 Views
Same to you. TyrReborn - 03/09/2023 04:20:19 AM 655 Views
Seeing things as beautiful or rotting Roland00 - 03/09/2023 05:21:50 PM 674 Views
I could not disagree more. TyrReborn - 03/09/2023 09:13:31 PM 670 Views
See this is about you Roland00 - 03/09/2023 11:22:53 PM 673 Views
No, it's about God. TyrReborn - 03/09/2023 11:28:55 PM 649 Views
How much history do you know about Samaritans? Roland00 - 03/09/2023 11:39:54 PM 644 Views
Friend, you can cut the shit. TyrReborn - 04/09/2023 12:19:56 AM 687 Views
I was going to talk about Mount Gerizim you nitwit Roland00 - 04/09/2023 01:36:16 AM 659 Views
Oh, my apologies then. TyrReborn - 04/09/2023 07:46:57 PM 675 Views
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