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Re: I am kind of confused about what you're doing here. ranagrande Send a noteboard - 22/02/2010 08:07:19 PM
Wow, it's pretty hard to glean anything from this. Most of my stuff is on F&R and White Flame.

First of all, I forgot that I'm still mad at F&R for saving the protection for himself in DK's game. I totally called that I'd be a target that first night O^

Next, F&R seems pretty cautious about bandwagoning- in the "Murder of the Mayor" game, he was against voting unless at least 2 townies had voted first.


Fox also has no problem voting for a fellow DF if he feels the winds are turning:
First of all, sorry Marshall but with what Blaine found, I knew it would turn to a lynch vs you. I wanted to be an early voter to try and escape accusations of bussing. It was really unfortunate but I wasn't about to try to defend you. If I defended two DFs back to back, I'd be lynched next.


White Flame tends to want to kill people who are leading the discussion. He's also paranoid of FT and Isaac- they have super-logic skills:

Throughout the day we've seen how easy it was for everyone to switch over to killing Hobo in a matter of hours. I think we really need to go for either FT, Isaac, or Napoleon. FT and Isaac always keep games going, they think too logically, and usually end up having their side win if they dont get killed by someone who sees them as a primary threat. Napoleon has been doing a little too much talking, and with his helping kill Hobo I think some retaliation may be necessary.





So... yeah. I can't tell if any of this is useful, but there it is.


Cause yeah, this information doesn't really help. I thought we were talking about Ranagrande? And none of this really has anything to do with him. Now it wouldn't make sense for you to be trying to draw attention away from the case against Ranagrande, since you were indeed one of it's main perpetrators. Which you are now denying above in your reply to Isaac. Granted, this might be a illusory correlation simply because your participation in the thread and the discussion of Ranagrande's guilt are concurrent and prominent, but you definitely said multiple times that of all the people who are possible lynchees Today, you'd be most willing to vote for Ranagrande. So that's not exactly "leading the attack," but no one else really is either. Well, Fox is, I suppose. But to be frank, your support of it seems a bit more suspect than his.
beetnemesis's attitude toward me in this game so far has been interesting. I was on his short list of suspects on Day 1 because of a feeling. Then early on on Day 2, he posted an analysis where he concluded that I was probably a townie. After Fox's accusation, he has said that he would support a lynch of me, but only because there don't seem to be any other suspects at the moment. So perhaps in this post he's trying to look for more suspects? But then, as mentioned, it is odd that he continues the attack on me below...

Fox's argument against Ranagrande seems mostly to consist of feelings and whatever he's managed to dredge up from Yesterday and past games, which is an awful shaky foundation for a DF crusade against an innocent target. I have a hard time believing Evil Fox would do that - I don't think a DF would lead a lynch movement like that unless there was phenomenal evidence against some poor townie. A more common scum MO is to sit on the side and tentatively support this, that and the other without actually trying to commit (i.e. spearhead a lynch against a townie), which is what you're doing. Now granted, I'm kind of doing the same thing by virtue of their being such little evidence all around, but I've said that given the case now I would not lynch him.
Yeah. I certainly disagree with Fox and Ravens, but I don't think he's a darkfriend.

But I think it's particularly interesting that you're now denying that you are/were a supporter of lynching Ranagrande, because right now I can think of a total of three people who were vocally supportive for the idea: Fox, you, and myself in an extremely qualified way. I might be missing some people who basically condoned the idea, but by looking through the post titles, no one else really sticks out to me. Isaac's been particularly against it. Everyone else has been kind of noncommittal. Interesting indeed.
It has been interesting. I was very grateful for Isaac's support, especially after having said before that I suspected him. I think in some ways he explained my own thought processes even better than I could have.
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Rafo Mafia 4 Day 2 is over. Gher - 08/02/2010 06:53:53 PM 3691 Views
List of Players Gher - 08/02/2010 06:58:04 PM 1463 Views
This is great, thanks! *NM* Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 01:19:25 AM 908 Views
Vote: Hieshyn Fox and Ravens - 15/02/2010 03:25:25 AM 1536 Views
Crap! Fox and Ravens - 15/02/2010 03:26:24 AM 1427 Views
Well, I guess I'll kick off this discussion Fox and Ravens - 08/02/2010 08:53:49 PM 1606 Views
Re: Well, I guess I'll kick off this discussion Isaac - 08/02/2010 09:28:57 PM 1409 Views
Hey, by the way, are you Mafia? beetnemesis - 08/02/2010 09:34:46 PM 1576 Views
I am not Hopper Isaac - 08/02/2010 10:37:55 PM 1449 Views
Maybe I am AWESOME beetnemesis - 08/02/2010 11:19:48 PM 1509 Views
Now that's a questionable claim. Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 02:36:25 AM 1496 Views
Hah! You underestimate my ego, madam! beetnemesis - 09/02/2010 06:25:28 AM 1381 Views
A few questions and comments beetnemesis - 08/02/2010 09:29:06 PM 1468 Views
Re: A few questions and comments Fox and Ravens - 08/02/2010 10:31:32 PM 1461 Views
Re: A few questions and comments beetnemesis - 08/02/2010 11:23:07 PM 1281 Views
Third Party Kronin al'Sulc - 08/02/2010 09:43:57 PM 1356 Views
Re: Third Party Fox and Ravens - 08/02/2010 10:34:38 PM 1410 Views
Re: Well, I guess I'll kick off this discussion White Flame of Tar Valon - 09/02/2010 02:47:03 AM 1448 Views
Re: Well, I guess I'll kick off this discussion Isaac - 09/02/2010 03:53:18 AM 1441 Views
I thinking Lynching F-T was the right thing to do. Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 04:45:13 AM 1406 Views
RBIRL ... test tomorrow. Probably not going to post tonight. *NM* Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 12:03:38 AM 878 Views
You know what? Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 01:17:52 AM 1414 Views
NO! Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2010 01:31:57 AM 1373 Views
Re: You know what? Isaac - 09/02/2010 01:34:42 AM 1348 Views
Heh, inorganic chemistry. Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 01:57:39 AM 1405 Views
Re: Heh, inorganic chemistry. White Flame of Tar Valon - 09/02/2010 02:38:45 AM 1408 Views
Re: Heh, inorganic chemistry. Isaac - 09/02/2010 03:29:32 AM 1499 Views
Oh, I learned all those lessons last year. Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 04:05:04 AM 1381 Views
Re: Oh, I learned all those lessons last year. Isaac - 09/02/2010 04:50:41 AM 1523 Views
Re: Heh, inorganic chemistry. Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2010 03:36:28 AM 1427 Views
Well thanks for the encouragement. Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 04:14:50 AM 1602 Views
Heh, Mafia: Other than the occasional lynching or assassination, we're one big supportive family. Gher - 09/02/2010 04:24:26 AM 1551 Views
See, that way the betrayal is personal. Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 04:41:47 AM 1640 Views
Ouch *NM* Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2010 04:58:13 PM 904 Views
*NM* Darth_Katie - 10/02/2010 01:02:30 AM 812 Views
Hypocop (Table) Kronin al'Sulc - 09/02/2010 12:59:06 AM 1505 Views
Beetnemesis, innocent. *NM* Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 01:17:10 AM 816 Views
Okay Isaac - 09/02/2010 01:29:09 AM 1282 Views
Kronin, innocent. *NM* Hobo - 09/02/2010 01:53:09 AM 772 Views
Isaac, Guilty *NM* ranagrande - 09/02/2010 02:12:07 AM 905 Views
Isaac, innocent *NM* White Flame of Tar Valon - 09/02/2010 02:37:54 AM 823 Views
I investigated Fox and Ravens and found hi to be for the shadow. *NM* Hieshyn - 09/02/2010 04:46:50 AM 831 Views
Investigated fistofpainx, found him to be innocent *NM* beetnemesis - 09/02/2010 06:27:37 AM 824 Views
DK, found her innocent *NM* fistofpainx - 09/02/2010 01:48:11 PM 826 Views
Fox and Ravens, Guilty *NM* Bergioyn - 09/02/2010 03:57:50 PM 794 Views
Vote Record (Table) Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 01:30:51 AM 1478 Views
I'll add: list of players who did NOT vote yesterday beetnemesis - 09/02/2010 06:46:38 AM 1426 Views
RBIRL Hieshyn - 09/02/2010 04:45:19 AM 1361 Views
Hmmm, Hobo - 09/02/2010 06:18:29 AM 1387 Views
We didn't lose two of our biggest roles. Also- I wonder if there are more roles? beetnemesis - 09/02/2010 06:35:05 AM 1291 Views
Re: We didn't lose two of our biggest roles. Also- I wonder if there are more roles? Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2010 07:16:19 AM 1395 Views
Re: Hmmm, Isaac - 09/02/2010 07:20:02 AM 1361 Views
Yeah, I agree with the Blaine rationalization beetnemesis - 09/02/2010 08:57:19 AM 1399 Views
Huh. Oh boy oh Bergioyn - 09/02/2010 06:39:15 AM 1246 Views
Care to give us your thoughts? *NM* Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2010 07:26:09 AM 854 Views
Well, losing Doc and Deputy same night is bound to cause trouble. Especially losing Doc. *NM* Bergioyn - 09/02/2010 08:54:49 AM 829 Views
Well, yeah... Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2010 04:57:26 PM 1530 Views
Re: Well, yeah... Bergioyn - 09/02/2010 07:27:00 PM 1338 Views
I want to throw this out here. Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2010 07:21:04 AM 1444 Views
What changed your mind? *NM* beetnemesis - 09/02/2010 08:58:09 AM 821 Views
Well, I realized I was the one telling everyone to just vote for someone. Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2010 04:56:17 PM 1469 Views
*NM* Fanatic-Templar - 10/02/2010 02:56:52 AM 732 Views
I thought you'd like that. *NM* Fox and Ravens - 10/02/2010 01:00:19 PM 746 Views
I was going to post a few thoughts here this morning... ranagrande - 09/02/2010 01:49:26 PM 1409 Views
Why is everyone assuming we have a SK? Hobo - 10/02/2010 12:09:47 AM 1468 Views
What tips me off is the "melted plastic". Kronin al'Sulc - 10/02/2010 12:22:56 AM 1320 Views
Good point. Is an arsonist usually a third party? *NM* Hobo - 10/02/2010 12:28:10 AM 770 Views
That's so arbitrary, though. Darth_Katie - 10/02/2010 12:57:09 AM 1234 Views
EBWOP: It's probably not a vigilante. Darth_Katie - 10/02/2010 01:05:57 AM 1488 Views
That seems like good reasoning beetnemesis - 10/02/2010 01:50:47 AM 1406 Views
Re: That seems like good reasoning Isaac - 10/02/2010 01:58:14 AM 1452 Views
That's a vig rule? I did not know that beetnemesis - 10/02/2010 08:16:56 PM 1392 Views
Well, it's pretty common sense. Darth_Katie - 10/02/2010 09:09:09 PM 1519 Views
I think he might have been referring to vigilante kills being blockable ranagrande - 10/02/2010 09:43:53 PM 1333 Views
Oh, my bad then! *NM* Darth_Katie - 10/02/2010 10:19:13 PM 830 Views
As the resident expert on vigilantism ranagrande - 10/02/2010 08:04:17 PM 1733 Views
Youre the resident expert on vigilantism? *NM* Hobo - 11/02/2010 11:06:24 PM 818 Views
He was a vig once or twice. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 12/02/2010 01:33:57 AM 843 Views
I was the best vigilante you guys have ever had! *NM* ranagrande - 12/02/2010 02:19:57 AM 809 Views
The only vigilante we've ever had. Darth_Katie - 12/02/2010 02:25:20 AM 1336 Views
Wait, haven't you proposed an arsonist most games. *NM* Hobo - 10/02/2010 04:37:33 AM 786 Views
Maybe it's been proposed. Kronin al'Sulc - 10/02/2010 05:19:10 AM 1447 Views
Re: Maybe it's been proposed. Hobo - 10/02/2010 05:56:10 AM 1353 Views
Re: Why is everyone assuming we have a SK? Isaac - 10/02/2010 12:50:51 AM 1586 Views
Re: Why is everyone assuming we have a SK? White Flame of Tar Valon - 10/02/2010 01:11:50 AM 1351 Views
Because we have a SK *NM* Hieshyn - 10/02/2010 05:14:00 AM 762 Views
I agree that we probably have a SK ranagrande - 10/02/2010 07:50:33 PM 1367 Views
Nah, I was just saying *NM* Hieshyn - 11/02/2010 05:06:54 AM 823 Views
wait a minute fistofpainx - 10/02/2010 01:15:32 PM 1417 Views
Sensors? *NM* Fox and Ravens - 10/02/2010 01:42:36 PM 713 Views
Another thing Darth_Katie - 10/02/2010 04:42:50 PM 1510 Views
F-T, I assume beetnemesis - 10/02/2010 05:08:58 PM 1336 Views
Probably, might be a hint at an RB but I doubt it *NM* Isaac - 10/02/2010 06:57:01 PM 821 Views
I don't think it could be a RB ranagrande - 10/02/2010 07:47:55 PM 1454 Views
Probably not, but not for that reason Isaac - 10/02/2010 08:32:57 PM 1417 Views
Huh. Darth_Katie - 10/02/2010 09:11:29 PM 1412 Views
Did anyone get any messages last night? beetnemesis - 10/02/2010 08:23:03 PM 1348 Views
Nope *NM* White Flame of Tar Valon - 10/02/2010 08:35:18 PM 793 Views
Me neither. Darth_Katie - 10/02/2010 09:14:46 PM 1390 Views
Re: Me neither. ranagrande - 10/02/2010 09:41:19 PM 1514 Views
RBIRL Fox and Ravens - 11/02/2010 04:52:12 PM 1348 Views
Good luck! *NM* Darth_Katie - 11/02/2010 07:05:40 PM 757 Views
Re: RBIRL Isaac - 11/02/2010 09:59:39 PM 1596 Views
We're stalling out a bit Isaac - 11/02/2010 10:05:09 PM 1370 Views
Yep. Darth_Katie - 12/02/2010 02:58:02 AM 1280 Views
We could talk about my heroic failure to defend the innocent some more? Fine... beetnemesis - 12/02/2010 07:12:51 AM 1432 Views
You seem engaged in a very active defense so far this game Isaac - 12/02/2010 09:40:23 PM 1595 Views
Yawn... beetnemesis - 12/02/2010 11:28:50 PM 1546 Views
Re: Yawn... Isaac - 13/02/2010 12:32:30 AM 1513 Views
Re: Yawn... Darth_Katie - 13/02/2010 01:31:41 AM 1457 Views
Re: Yawn... ranagrande - 13/02/2010 02:24:40 AM 1386 Views
He's brought up accusations on himself Isaac - 13/02/2010 02:40:01 AM 1564 Views
Dammit, I had a post and then it got deleted. Darth_Katie - 14/02/2010 01:45:31 AM 1366 Views
Alrighty, let's try this again. Darth_Katie - 14/02/2010 06:38:26 AM 1244 Views
Always happy to answer your questions beetnemesis - 14/02/2010 07:35:35 AM 1270 Views
Thanks for the answers. Darth_Katie - 15/02/2010 07:29:31 PM 1384 Views
Re: Yawn... beetnemesis - 13/02/2010 02:02:34 AM 1464 Views
Re: Yawn... Isaac - 13/02/2010 02:48:22 AM 1331 Views
On F-T's accusations against you. Kronin al'Sulc - 14/02/2010 01:54:20 AM 1423 Views
Re: On F-T's accusations against you. Isaac - 14/02/2010 03:43:52 AM 1310 Views
Oh, right, I modded that one. Kronin al'Sulc - 14/02/2010 04:11:46 AM 1343 Views
That's right, I am the Breaker of Unbroken Records Darth_Katie - 14/02/2010 05:56:52 AM 1391 Views
Actually, quite few of my streaks were broken on that one Isaac - 14/02/2010 08:43:09 AM 1326 Views
I'm in second? Woo! Kronin al'Sulc - 14/02/2010 02:46:05 PM 1395 Views
Yep, welcome to being a lightning rod Isaac - 14/02/2010 09:10:43 PM 1524 Views
I'm not gonna be as targeted as you; I've died a LOT. Kronin al'Sulc - 14/02/2010 11:17:24 PM 1391 Views
Ironically I don't think I've ever killed you Isaac - 14/02/2010 11:56:03 PM 1370 Views
Game 1 I remember. Kronin al'Sulc - 15/02/2010 12:01:21 AM 1245 Views
Re: Game 1 I remember. Isaac - 15/02/2010 12:19:30 AM 1607 Views
Three stalled out over the winter holidays and we had to restart. Darth_Katie - 15/02/2010 01:26:59 AM 1591 Views
Oh, the MHael Steve incident! Kronin al'Sulc - 15/02/2010 04:42:31 AM 1378 Views
The game? Oh, right, that. Kronin al'Sulc - 15/02/2010 04:41:43 AM 1299 Views
Actually... Gher - 15/02/2010 04:57:50 PM 1461 Views
Sorry, it was my first game. Kronin al'Sulc - 16/02/2010 03:34:16 AM 1573 Views
That was my point actually. Gher - 16/02/2010 06:25:17 AM 1470 Views
Those were the good old days. Hobo - 18/02/2010 01:21:44 AM 1424 Views
random thoughts ranagrande - 15/02/2010 12:46:55 PM 1347 Views
I wasn't in that game. Hobo - 18/02/2010 01:19:06 AM 1337 Views
A second line of thought: ranagrande beetnemesis - 12/02/2010 07:40:37 AM 1654 Views
Argh... quote please Isaac - 12/02/2010 08:54:08 PM 1409 Views
Haha, fair enough beetnemesis - 12/02/2010 11:30:54 PM 1229 Views
I was getting all set to defend myself ranagrande - 13/02/2010 01:21:58 AM 1490 Views
RBIRL White Flame of Tar Valon - 14/02/2010 06:11:55 AM 1430 Views
Back White Flame of Tar Valon - 18/02/2010 02:14:25 AM 1436 Views
Vote: Hieshyn Fox and Ravens - 15/02/2010 03:27:04 AM 1243 Views
Re: Hieshyn ranagrande - 15/02/2010 12:54:42 PM 1530 Views
Well, it's less that discussion is winding down, and more that we don't have any new topics beetnemesis - 15/02/2010 05:48:22 PM 1301 Views
That's giving up awfully early. Darth_Katie - 15/02/2010 07:35:37 PM 1303 Views
Never give up! Never surrender! ranagrande - 15/02/2010 08:31:19 PM 1446 Views
Well this was unexpected. Hieshyn - 15/02/2010 06:07:44 PM 1357 Views
Re: Well this was unexpected. Fox and Ravens - 15/02/2010 08:30:57 PM 1360 Views
I think he's saying that he's been quiet because he's busy, not a DF beetnemesis - 15/02/2010 08:39:53 PM 1267 Views
I don't think so Isaac - 16/02/2010 12:09:13 AM 1392 Views
I assumed Darth_Katie - 16/02/2010 12:14:16 AM 1349 Views
Re: I assumed Isaac - 16/02/2010 01:28:43 AM 1428 Views
In a way Isaac is right Hieshyn - 16/02/2010 05:24:08 AM 1403 Views
If he was the SK Darth_Katie - 15/02/2010 07:55:38 PM 1471 Views
How many games did you guys play on wotmania, anyway? beetnemesis - 15/02/2010 08:43:04 PM 1354 Views
9 *NM* Gher - 15/02/2010 08:53:23 PM 839 Views
Game 9 was F-T's Cairhienen Civil War/Succession. Gher - 15/02/2010 08:53:03 PM 1328 Views
Oh that's right! Darth_Katie - 15/02/2010 09:03:40 PM 1334 Views
We just took that game over. Kronin al'Sulc - 15/02/2010 10:12:43 PM 1408 Views
Oh yeah, we owned that one Isaac - 15/02/2010 11:48:12 PM 1298 Views
Re: Game 9 was F-T's Cairhienen Civil War/Succession. Isaac - 15/02/2010 11:54:44 PM 1423 Views
Lol irony Darth_Katie - 16/02/2010 12:16:49 AM 1391 Views
what I thought was pretty funny fistofpainx - 16/02/2010 12:41:47 AM 1388 Views
Heh heh the Cairhienins would be proud *NM* Darth_Katie - 16/02/2010 01:11:13 AM 833 Views
Oh, Isaac got High Seat there, didn't he? Kronin al'Sulc - 16/02/2010 01:33:05 AM 1400 Views
That was a fun one. Hobo - 18/02/2010 01:32:02 AM 1428 Views
So, it's just because he hasn't been talking much? That fits a lot of people beetnemesis - 15/02/2010 09:31:02 PM 1469 Views
well I really dont have anything worthwhile to say *NM* fistofpainx - 15/02/2010 10:06:11 PM 880 Views
Eh... not good enough beetnemesis - 16/02/2010 12:19:22 AM 1379 Views
Holiday weekend Isaac - 15/02/2010 11:49:37 PM 1338 Views
OK, I'm glad that vote got some discussion flowing. Fox and Ravens - 16/02/2010 02:58:55 AM 1503 Views
Ooo sneaky sneaky Darth_Katie - 16/02/2010 03:58:37 AM 1591 Views
Re: Ooo sneaky sneaky Fox and Ravens - 16/02/2010 04:25:26 AM 1400 Views
It wasn't really a big thing. Darth_Katie - 16/02/2010 04:46:54 AM 1456 Views
Re: It wasn't really a big thing. Fox and Ravens - 16/02/2010 05:30:34 AM 1406 Views
You know doing this sort of thing can get you lynched Isaac - 16/02/2010 04:40:23 AM 1461 Views
Oh, I know it can. Fox and Ravens - 16/02/2010 05:23:13 AM 1430 Views
Re: Oh, I know it can. Isaac - 16/02/2010 07:00:53 AM 1492 Views
Since when are you against traps? Kronin al'Sulc - 16/02/2010 04:07:05 PM 1345 Views
Since game 4 or 5, roughly Isaac - 16/02/2010 10:57:19 PM 1389 Views
It's weird- I've never played Live Mafia, but I imagine it's very different. beetnemesis - 16/02/2010 08:58:09 AM 1481 Views
I'm glad it did too. ranagrande - 16/02/2010 01:16:14 PM 1428 Views
Regarding Inactivity and whatnot Gher - 16/02/2010 06:22:14 AM 1475 Views
I'm still here, I've been busy with studying, and hadn't realized I was gone this long. Bergioyn - 16/02/2010 06:50:44 AM 1364 Views
RBIRL - exams Thursday *NM* Darth_Katie - 17/02/2010 02:11:27 AM 841 Views
Sorry all. Friday thru Monday suddenly got really hectic, I wasn't home much at all. Hobo - 18/02/2010 01:54:02 AM 1396 Views
So, where are we at? Isaac - 18/02/2010 02:40:32 AM 1407 Views
Re: So, where are we at? Fox and Ravens - 18/02/2010 03:55:33 AM 1425 Views
EBWOP: Issac's maybe only a 5.5. No, a 5.7 beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 06:58:40 AM 1435 Views
OK so I apparantly lack the technical know-how to reply to myself beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 07:08:36 AM 1507 Views
Re: OK so I apparantly lack the technical know-how to reply to myself Isaac - 18/02/2010 07:54:05 AM 1390 Views
Well yeah, all of that is mostly why I haven't been pushing anything beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 08:51:14 AM 1299 Views
Uggggghhhh...Ok. This post makes me want to vote you off. Fox and Ravens - 18/02/2010 03:28:19 PM 1312 Views
You seem to have misunbderstood my question Isaac - 18/02/2010 04:28:47 PM 1341 Views
Re: You seem to have misunbderstood my question Fox and Ravens - 18/02/2010 05:10:14 PM 1545 Views
Nice little typo I have there on misundertood, that's gonna be nagging at me for all of Day 2 Isaac - 18/02/2010 05:25:49 PM 1339 Views
My post, "Re: Hieshyn" ranagrande - 18/02/2010 06:32:12 PM 1549 Views
Re: Nice little typo I have there on misundertood, that's gonna be nagging at me for all of Day 2 Fox and Ravens - 19/02/2010 04:45:25 AM 1325 Views
Thanks, all right let's review it Isaac - 19/02/2010 11:41:19 AM 1357 Views
A few thoughts ranagrande - 19/02/2010 03:22:32 PM 1331 Views
Alright then. Fox and Ravens - 19/02/2010 05:20:39 PM 1139 Views
EBWOP Fox and Ravens - 19/02/2010 05:23:06 PM 1497 Views
Haha, I'm sorry beetnemesis - 19/02/2010 05:49:00 PM 1322 Views
Re: EBWOP Isaac - 19/02/2010 06:53:08 PM 1470 Views
Naive? beetnemesis - 19/02/2010 07:13:14 PM 1471 Views
Naive or sinister, take your pick Isaac - 19/02/2010 07:29:09 PM 1443 Views
We could go with "arrogant," instead of either of those, if you like beetnemesis - 20/02/2010 01:59:22 AM 1211 Views
Hmm...well here's something interesting now that you reminded me of that game... Fox and Ravens - 19/02/2010 08:26:33 PM 1314 Views
Re: Hmm...well here's something interesting now that you reminded me of that game... Isaac - 19/02/2010 08:40:47 PM 1316 Views
That's true- I've said as much earlier in this thread beetnemesis - 20/02/2010 02:08:47 AM 1360 Views
Re: EBWOP White Flame of Tar Valon - 19/02/2010 08:32:55 PM 1298 Views
Re: EBWOP Isaac - 19/02/2010 08:57:50 PM 1295 Views
Speaking of that game Darth_Katie - 20/02/2010 06:03:18 AM 1371 Views
Re: Speaking of that game Isaac - 20/02/2010 05:24:16 PM 1345 Views
Actually, that reminds me. HEY KRONIN! beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 07:09:39 AM 1368 Views
Hey. Kronin al'Sulc - 18/02/2010 04:09:08 PM 1403 Views
Re: Hey. White Flame of Tar Valon - 18/02/2010 05:19:30 PM 1432 Views
Re: Hey. ranagrande - 18/02/2010 06:50:35 PM 1360 Views
Re: Hey. Isaac - 18/02/2010 05:37:33 PM 1518 Views
FT had no evidence one way or the other if Issac was a DF beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 05:44:43 PM 1298 Views
Don't put words in my mouth. Kronin al'Sulc - 18/02/2010 06:03:55 PM 1500 Views
Oh no, I know, I know. I'm just saying, FT has no more credibility than any of us *NM* beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 07:48:58 PM 828 Views
Well OK, a BIT more, because we know he was townie *NM* beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 07:49:34 PM 818 Views
But he IS a damn good player, and his advice, however limited, should be taken into account. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 18/02/2010 07:49:58 PM 799 Views
Fair enough *NM* beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 08:19:04 PM 785 Views
fistofpainx, Do you have any thoughts? beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 05:46:38 PM 1395 Views
I think that fistofpainx - 18/02/2010 09:45:56 PM 1434 Views
Well, if my combine the Vote Record with our previous suspicions... Kronin al'Sulc - 18/02/2010 09:48:24 PM 1358 Views
All right, ranagrande (and everyone else). Why shouldn't we lynch you? beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 11:32:07 PM 1356 Views
Re: All right, ranagrande (and everyone else). Why shouldn't we lynch you? Isaac - 19/02/2010 03:01:45 AM 1280 Views
Re: All right, ranagrande (and everyone else). Why shouldn't we lynch you? beetnemesis - 19/02/2010 04:07:03 AM 1424 Views
I think you're overestimating the appearance of your own innocence. Darth_Katie - 19/02/2010 05:38:53 AM 1314 Views
Yeah, it's mostly just about getting the conversation going beetnemesis - 19/02/2010 06:40:17 AM 1378 Views
About voting ranagrande - 19/02/2010 03:33:34 PM 1409 Views
Idk if that question about voting can be answered. Darth_Katie - 20/02/2010 06:15:21 AM 1442 Views
In response to Fox and Ravens (down here to stop horizontal scroll) Gher - 19/02/2010 09:50:16 PM 1412 Views
Re: In response to Fox and Ravens (down here to stop horizontal scroll) Fox and Ravens - 19/02/2010 10:22:37 PM 1430 Views
I agree ranagrande - 20/02/2010 02:52:53 PM 1224 Views
Should be fine.. although, maybe only paraphrase? beetnemesis - 20/02/2010 02:03:30 AM 1343 Views
Well, the reason for the prohibition doesn't apply post-game, so I'll go with no Isaac - 20/02/2010 05:07:38 AM 1343 Views
Seems pretty thorough to me! I pretty much agree. *NM* Darth_Katie - 20/02/2010 05:12:40 AM 805 Views
After seeing this thread.... Kronin al'Sulc - 20/02/2010 05:53:47 AM 1259 Views
Go ahead and start one then. Darth_Katie - 20/02/2010 06:08:12 AM 1390 Views
Re: Go ahead and start one then. Isaac - 20/02/2010 06:47:23 AM 1476 Views
Isaac, did you say you have Cor's original rules saved somewhere? Kronin al'Sulc - 20/02/2010 04:50:29 PM 1495 Views
Re: Isaac, did you say you have Cor's original rules saved somewhere? Isaac - 20/02/2010 05:16:09 PM 1545 Views
Well, these are as good a starting point as any. Kronin al'Sulc - 20/02/2010 05:22:34 PM 1333 Views
I think quoting NBs from other games is okay. Darth_Katie - 20/02/2010 05:15:55 AM 1395 Views
Quoting or paraphrasing is fine IMO *NM* White Flame of Tar Valon - 20/02/2010 05:31:45 AM 886 Views
Fox and Ranagrande Darth_Katie - 20/02/2010 06:30:53 AM 1504 Views
Some comments... Fox and Ravens - 20/02/2010 07:54:02 PM 1440 Views
Alright. Gher - 20/02/2010 05:43:51 PM 1428 Views
Thanks Fox and Ravens - 20/02/2010 07:48:20 PM 1297 Views
Re: Thanks Isaac - 20/02/2010 10:35:26 PM 1283 Views
Ranagrande *NM* Fox and Ravens - 21/02/2010 12:55:29 AM 781 Views
Really? beetnemesis - 21/02/2010 01:58:24 AM 1411 Views
Go back and look at the NB for yourself. *NM* Fox and Ravens - 21/02/2010 04:29:54 AM 851 Views
That's hilarious. *NM* Darth_Katie - 21/02/2010 06:47:57 PM 811 Views
Re: Thanks beetnemesis - 21/02/2010 01:57:25 AM 1388 Views
I do have a question Isaac - 21/02/2010 07:12:57 PM 1449 Views
A prosaic explanation- (and an objection) beetnemesis - 21/02/2010 09:13:43 PM 1425 Views
Well, you kind of said it yourself. Darth_Katie - 21/02/2010 07:38:32 PM 1338 Views
I'm purposefully trying to not be so focussed on ranagrande Fox and Ravens - 21/02/2010 11:06:40 PM 1430 Views
Not sure I follow Darth_Katie - 22/02/2010 06:49:11 PM 1443 Views
Because I might just be blinding myself here. Fox and Ravens - 22/02/2010 07:40:15 PM 1440 Views
Oh, okay. That does make sense. Darth_Katie - 22/02/2010 07:52:10 PM 1555 Views
I think I do ranagrande - 22/02/2010 07:47:56 PM 1351 Views
I'm purposefully trying to not be so focussed on ranagrande Fox and Ravens - 21/02/2010 11:06:40 PM 1345 Views
EBWOP - sorry, double post *NM* Fox and Ravens - 21/02/2010 11:34:21 PM 801 Views
Items of note from my NB archive: beetnemesis - 21/02/2010 09:37:49 PM 1524 Views
I am kind of confused about what you're doing here. Darth_Katie - 22/02/2010 07:20:49 PM 1558 Views
I'm feeling the same thing. Fox and Ravens - 22/02/2010 07:36:46 PM 1406 Views
I hadn't even seen Beet's post at the bottom there until after I'd posted this. Darth_Katie - 22/02/2010 07:44:49 PM 1357 Views
Re: I am kind of confused about what you're doing here. ranagrande - 22/02/2010 08:07:19 PM 1370 Views
Re: Rafo Mafia 4 Day 2 Bergioyn - 22/02/2010 12:09:20 PM 1450 Views
Alright. Here's a quick synposis Fox and Ravens - 22/02/2010 07:54:19 PM 1436 Views
That sounds about right to me. Darth_Katie - 22/02/2010 07:58:29 PM 1408 Views
I'll try to, I just may not have the time to. If I do, I'll definately read them all. *NM* Bergioyn - 23/02/2010 07:05:24 AM 741 Views
(My two cents) beetnemesis - 22/02/2010 08:35:17 PM 1418 Views
Dude. Darth_Katie - 22/02/2010 08:53:30 PM 1423 Views
Re: Dude. beetnemesis - 22/02/2010 09:45:52 PM 1362 Views
Thanks. Bergioyn - 23/02/2010 07:04:29 AM 1461 Views
Another minor piece against ranagrande beetnemesis - 22/02/2010 07:13:44 PM 1448 Views
You didn't read the entirety of my quote post did you? Fox and Ravens - 22/02/2010 07:42:14 PM 1457 Views
Actually, I do have a small confession to make about that... ranagrande - 22/02/2010 08:14:08 PM 1523 Views
Re: Another minor piece against ranagrande Isaac - 22/02/2010 08:23:48 PM 1564 Views
Fair enough beetnemesis - 22/02/2010 08:38:51 PM 1533 Views
Re: Fair enough Fox and Ravens - 22/02/2010 09:07:57 PM 1415 Views
Re: Fair enough Fox and Ravens - 22/02/2010 09:07:57 PM 1367 Views
Numbers? beetnemesis - 22/02/2010 09:36:51 PM 1518 Views
Re: Numbers? Fox and Ravens - 22/02/2010 10:21:13 PM 1538 Views
I don't think he's innocent. OR a DF beetnemesis - 22/02/2010 10:42:16 PM 1330 Views
Maybe I missed it.... Kronin al'Sulc - 22/02/2010 09:26:47 PM 1477 Views
Re: Maybe I missed it.... beetnemesis - 22/02/2010 09:38:09 PM 1367 Views
Re: Maybe I missed it.... White Flame of Tar Valon - 23/02/2010 09:38:23 PM 1352 Views
I will destroy the world beetnemesis - 23/02/2010 11:17:26 PM 1466 Views
And yet, that's the exact same thing you called me out on yesterday. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 24/02/2010 01:07:07 AM 707 Views
Ok, that's totally different... beetnemesis - 24/02/2010 06:36:00 AM 1328 Views
All that's different is the presumed final intent. Kronin al'Sulc - 24/02/2010 12:36:32 PM 1444 Views
Yeah ... those are pretty much the same. *NM* Darth_Katie - 24/02/2010 03:17:25 PM 701 Views
Yea.... beet's looking worse and worse every time he opens his mouth, so to speak. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 24/02/2010 09:00:47 PM 808 Views
No, this is my view: beetnemesis - 24/02/2010 11:23:25 PM 1474 Views
And my view was: Kronin al'Sulc - 25/02/2010 01:29:13 AM 1347 Views
shrug. I haven't been attacking you today, you know beetnemesis - 25/02/2010 01:46:39 AM 1421 Views
I'm just pointing out the irony. Kronin al'Sulc - 25/02/2010 01:52:07 AM 1340 Views
Re: I'm just pointing out the irony. beetnemesis - 25/02/2010 06:47:45 AM 1401 Views
Vote: Fox and Ravens *NM* Hieshyn - 24/02/2010 04:51:24 AM 797 Views
Can I ask why? Fox and Ravens - 24/02/2010 05:06:22 AM 1370 Views
I'd be very interested in seeing an explanation as well *NM* ranagrande - 24/02/2010 08:04:30 PM 804 Views
Ditto. *NM* Darth_Katie - 24/02/2010 08:09:31 PM 806 Views
My, my, how totally unexpected Isaac - 24/02/2010 01:01:42 PM 1445 Views
Reasoning would be nice *NM* White Flame of Tar Valon - 24/02/2010 10:13:43 PM 816 Views
Eh? *NM* beetnemesis - 25/02/2010 01:47:19 AM 797 Views
Hieshyn I will DESTROY you beetnemesis - 27/02/2010 01:41:25 AM 1367 Views
We're sort of in a holding pattern here, Hieshyn Isaac - 25/02/2010 07:01:23 PM 1543 Views
You're right, Isaac. Fox and Ravens - 25/02/2010 08:47:03 PM 1523 Views
Though I presume this was already somewhat obvious, ^Seconded. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 25/02/2010 08:56:19 PM 714 Views
I'll agree. Beet has been suspicious, and we havent found enough with ranagrande to continue *NM* White Flame of Tar Valon - 26/02/2010 02:00:36 AM 825 Views
Hieshyns and Foxes and Beets! Oh my! ranagrande - 26/02/2010 02:59:51 PM 1434 Views
At first I thought he was going for a F&R-style trap beetnemesis - 26/02/2010 01:44:16 AM 1425 Views
Re: At first I thought he was going for a F&R-style trap Fox and Ravens - 26/02/2010 06:10:33 AM 1462 Views
Re: At first I thought he was going for a F&R-style trap beetnemesis - 26/02/2010 07:00:02 AM 1486 Views
RBIRL. Had a lot of school stuff, gone for the weekend. Sorry. *NM* Hobo - 27/02/2010 01:05:40 AM 800 Views
Sorry I've been insanely busy. Hieshyn - 27/02/2010 03:33:43 AM 1518 Views
Here's what I'm getting from this: beetnemesis - 27/02/2010 06:49:22 AM 1410 Views
Could be Hieshyn - 27/02/2010 06:16:30 PM 1384 Views
Re: Could be Isaac - 27/02/2010 07:15:07 PM 1467 Views
This seems a lot like an OMGUS. Kronin al'Sulc - 27/02/2010 07:02:12 AM 1346 Views
Well, we have a very weird situation here Isaac - 27/02/2010 05:13:12 PM 1437 Views
Re: Well, we have a very weird situation here White Flame of Tar Valon - 27/02/2010 05:40:16 PM 1259 Views
Re: Sorry I've been insanely busy. Fox and Ravens - 27/02/2010 07:06:39 AM 1415 Views
Re: Sorry I've been insanely busy. beetnemesis - 27/02/2010 07:55:13 AM 1314 Views
Gotcha, thanks. *NM* Fox and Ravens - 27/02/2010 08:07:21 AM 829 Views
Okay, let's try to finish off today Isaac - 27/02/2010 07:27:09 PM 1452 Views
Re: Okay, let's try to finish off today White Flame of Tar Valon - 27/02/2010 08:24:14 PM 1590 Views
Interesting. Darth_Katie - 27/02/2010 09:28:33 PM 1346 Views
I sort of assumed everyone knew where I'm aiming, I've been pretty open about it Isaac - 27/02/2010 09:45:50 PM 1409 Views
Oh, right. Darth_Katie - 28/02/2010 04:32:13 AM 1284 Views
Vote: ranagrande Fox and Ravens - 27/02/2010 09:12:51 PM 1352 Views
Hmmm White Flame of Tar Valon - 27/02/2010 11:31:52 PM 1269 Views
Re: Hmmm beetnemesis - 28/02/2010 12:41:07 AM 1385 Views
What, if anything, has changed? Isaac - 28/02/2010 03:19:49 AM 1347 Views
Dang, I didn't know you could make text larger. Fancy! *NM* Darth_Katie - 28/02/2010 04:57:28 AM 769 Views
A little joke Isaac - 28/02/2010 05:16:14 AM 2143 Views
Haha nice. Darth_Katie - 28/02/2010 05:41:14 AM 1504 Views
Re: Haha nice. Isaac - 28/02/2010 06:29:58 AM 2065 Views
Woah, that's a pretty sneaky trick with the quote links. Darth_Katie - 28/02/2010 07:14:22 AM 1348 Views
Oh, and RBIRL: midterms week. *NM* Darth_Katie - 27/02/2010 09:35:25 PM 787 Views
Yikes (warning: lots of text) beetnemesis - 28/02/2010 12:35:16 AM 1374 Views
Why do you keep calling my death inevitable? Isaac - 28/02/2010 02:51:26 AM 1351 Views
Because you have often said you're a lightning rod beetnemesis - 28/02/2010 07:48:14 AM 1489 Views
Guess I'll set up the other camp: Vote: beetnemesis Kronin al'Sulc - 28/02/2010 03:22:49 AM 1344 Views
fair enough White Flame of Tar Valon - 28/02/2010 04:40:02 AM 1290 Views
Yeah, I would like an explanation. Darth_Katie - 28/02/2010 05:00:55 AM 1332 Views
Vote: beetnemesis White Flame of Tar Valon - 01/03/2010 03:18:00 AM 1422 Views
EBWOP White Flame of Tar Valon - 01/03/2010 03:20:24 AM 1335 Views
"Jumpy?" beetnemesis - 01/03/2010 05:47:37 AM 1324 Views
Re: "Jumpy?" White Flame of Tar Valon - 03/03/2010 05:35:50 AM 1453 Views
I GUESS I'll contribute my opinion. Darth_Katie - 28/02/2010 06:15:36 AM 1426 Views
What a rebel beetnemesis - 28/02/2010 07:52:50 AM 1329 Views
me and beet ranagrande - 28/02/2010 01:03:59 PM 1438 Views
my stance on voting fistofpainx - 01/03/2010 03:08:33 AM 1473 Views
Re: my stance on voting White Flame of Tar Valon - 01/03/2010 03:21:32 AM 1498 Views
well the reason my not posting as much fistofpainx - 01/03/2010 04:03:26 AM 1394 Views
Re: well the reason my not posting as much White Flame of Tar Valon - 01/03/2010 05:28:48 AM 1288 Views
Do you get a ring for voting abstinence? Hieshyn - 01/03/2010 04:56:57 AM 1506 Views
LOL *NM* White Flame of Tar Valon - 01/03/2010 05:26:14 AM 772 Views
RBIRL until thursday. Bergioyn - 01/03/2010 07:06:50 AM 1312 Views
You undecided people really need to make up your minds Fox and Ravens - 01/03/2010 07:32:42 PM 1393 Views
Seriously, the suspense is killing me *NM* beetnemesis - 02/03/2010 05:30:26 PM 785 Views
Agreed, this is really getting ridiculous *NM* Isaac - 02/03/2010 08:06:12 PM 888 Views
Perhaps a deadline would liven things up? Gher - 02/03/2010 08:46:35 PM 1340 Views
Please Fox and Ravens - 02/03/2010 09:12:36 PM 1398 Views
beetnemesis - 02/03/2010 11:20:19 PM 1528 Views
Re: Fox and Ravens - 02/03/2010 11:49:21 PM 1408 Views
Did you unvote? Gher - 03/03/2010 04:22:52 AM 1421 Views
I always forget that! Fox and Ravens - 03/03/2010 01:04:09 PM 1332 Views
I'm sorry. Darth_Katie - 03/03/2010 03:54:56 AM 1415 Views
But... I'm much more interesting than some stupid "book!" beetnemesis - 03/03/2010 04:11:02 AM 1343 Views
Its Hammer Time! Hieshyn - 03/03/2010 05:25:27 AM 1389 Views
Re: Its Hammer Time! White Flame of Tar Valon - 03/03/2010 05:32:34 AM 1306 Views
I hope you all feel really guilty about this beetnemesis - 03/03/2010 06:22:57 AM 1262 Views
Not likely, we're pretty draconian about lynches these days Isaac - 03/03/2010 09:15:00 AM 1266 Views
..I can and HAVE rebutted these. beetnemesis - 03/03/2010 05:15:32 PM 1322 Views
EBWOP: I need to start hitting preview to make sure the formatting is right. beetnemesis - 03/03/2010 05:18:43 PM 1302 Views
I'm sorry, I am not convinced Isaac - 03/03/2010 11:16:36 PM 1273 Views
I figured it'd be meaningless to RC, but ok... beetnemesis - 04/03/2010 01:54:36 AM 1342 Views
Well you figured very wrong Isaac - 04/03/2010 01:57:09 AM 1510 Views
All right, let's look at this Isaac - 04/03/2010 02:06:58 AM 1451 Views
This is a very interesting development ranagrande - 04/03/2010 02:22:46 AM 1479 Views
Ditto. Darth_Katie - 04/03/2010 02:28:18 AM 1590 Views
Re: All right, let's look at this White Flame of Tar Valon - 04/03/2010 03:46:38 AM 1247 Views
Gosh. beetnemesis - 04/03/2010 04:01:04 AM 1367 Views
I find this very, very, very, VERY unlikely. Fox and Ravens - 04/03/2010 05:25:41 AM 1485 Views
We're only waiting on Bergioyn and Fist, I believe. Darth_Katie - 04/03/2010 05:56:36 AM 1351 Views
Now we are down to Fist White Flame of Tar Valon - 04/03/2010 03:47:22 PM 1297 Views
At this point I feel like anything I could say would only hurt my case beetnemesis - 04/03/2010 06:34:43 AM 1375 Views
You brought this upon yourself. Kronin al'Sulc - 03/03/2010 01:06:58 PM 1320 Views
Your fencing smiley has dulled my scathing retort beetnemesis - 03/03/2010 05:19:49 PM 1422 Views
Kronin al'Sulc - 03/03/2010 05:34:11 PM 1430 Views
I'm back. Hobo - 03/03/2010 07:32:24 PM 1445 Views
I'll give it a shot beetnemesis - 03/03/2010 08:19:01 PM 1462 Views
Are you a Town Roleblocker? (Table) - Summary: All 'No' Isaac - 04/03/2010 02:28:55 AM 1523 Views
No. *NM* Darth_Katie - 04/03/2010 02:29:51 AM 838 Views
No *NM* ranagrande - 04/03/2010 02:31:43 AM 833 Views
Nope. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 04/03/2010 02:32:54 AM 751 Views
Re: Are you a Town Roleblocker? (Table) *NM* Isaac - 04/03/2010 02:34:19 AM 790 Views
Ignore, hit 'reply' instead of 'edit' I think *NM* Isaac - 04/03/2010 02:36:02 AM 717 Views
No *NM* White Flame of Tar Valon - 04/03/2010 03:40:15 AM 843 Views
No *NM* Hieshyn - 04/03/2010 04:44:27 AM 784 Views
No, sir *NM* Fox and Ravens - 04/03/2010 05:20:43 AM 892 Views
Nope. *NM* Hobo - 04/03/2010 05:25:10 AM 771 Views
No. *NM* Bergioyn - 04/03/2010 01:54:15 PM 799 Views
no *NM* fistofpainx - 05/03/2010 03:52:07 AM 797 Views
Well, I don't think there is much point in further delay Isaac - 04/03/2010 11:44:57 PM 1253 Views
To the roleblocker: beetnemesis - 05/03/2010 01:46:50 AM 1444 Views
That's everyone, Vote: Beetnemesis *NM* Isaac - 05/03/2010 04:06:03 AM 814 Views
I think that's everyone. Darth_Katie - 05/03/2010 04:39:23 AM 1248 Views
I wouldn't jump on fist- he seems like he just rarely posts beetnemesis - 05/03/2010 06:21:34 AM 1559 Views
Also: Someone kill me! Eh, screw it. beetnemesis - 05/03/2010 06:27:29 AM 1498 Views
RBIRL White Flame of Tar Valon - 05/03/2010 05:17:54 AM 1313 Views
Well, Beet already hammered. Hobo - 05/03/2010 06:44:08 AM 1356 Views
Hah! It's like a ghost! Or a lame-duck president beetnemesis - 05/03/2010 07:22:42 AM 1394 Views
Not a bad idea Isaac - 05/03/2010 08:13:59 AM 1441 Views
Beetnemesis has been lynched Gher - 05/03/2010 05:38:05 PM 1419 Views
Sorry Beet! *NM* Fox and Ravens - 06/03/2010 05:11:56 AM 790 Views
You shall be the only one I don't haunt *NM* beetnemesis - 06/03/2010 06:29:23 AM 716 Views
Yo, what did I do to you? *NM* Hieshyn - 06/03/2010 06:47:51 PM 863 Views
I meant of those who lynched me! You shall be EXALTED! beetnemesis - 06/03/2010 06:52:39 PM 1476 Views
Hmm... tell me more about this robot-heaven ranagrande - 06/03/2010 09:15:57 PM 1481 Views
In both places, the humans are our slaves beetnemesis - 07/03/2010 06:48:29 PM 1513 Views
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