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Re: Numbers? Fox and Ravens Send a noteboard - 22/02/2010 10:21:13 PM
Fudging what numbers?

And I've been completely consistent regarding ranagrande- I've always thought of him as "I dunno." When I made my ranagrande-post, it was "I dunno, I guess he's light because I don't see anything damning:


You were callin him out just as I was and then backed off. You bring quotes regarding his guilt and then say you think he's good. It just doesn't make sense.


And... that's that. I took these notes as I went through the last two threads, and, upon rereading them, I have to say that ranagrande doesn't seem too suspicious to me. He was a bit iffy on Day 1, but then, so is everyone.

Then, as today went on and you made your case, I changed to "I dunno, it's not that convincing, but I can't think of anyone MORE suspicious, so I'd be willing to vote for him:


But you just said you thought he's light. Or did I read your...third sentence of you post wrong? If you think he's light, why would you be voting for him? It's these posts that just do not add up.


If it comes down to picking from that 4, I guess I'd have to go with ranagrande. Granted, my post said he didn't seem particularly suspicious, but he doesn't seem particularly benign, either. If I had to judge Fox, Issac and ranagrande one a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being Definite Darkfriend and 1 being Definite Light, I'd probably make Fox 4.5, with Issac being a 5.7 and ranagrande a 6.

(Note: is this what you meant by fudging numbers? I admit that I was relying on memory because I didn't feel like tracking down the quote- but the gist is the same. I thought of Isaac and ranagrande as slightly suspicious, but emphasis on the slightly.)


This is what I was referring to. Numbers are chosen to be something solid and concrete. If you don't actually use the numbers and guess with them, they become something less than evidence. When using numbers, you really do need to be completely consistent or they have 0 meaning.

And here's a quote about me explaining that I'm not sure enough about this to want to be the one who makes the case-


(and while you [Isaac] haven't wanted to be seen as a defender of ranagrande, I haven't wanted to be seen as an attacker- nobody seems to feel particularly confident about this.)

Also, I've asked on more than one occasion if the "ranagrande is innocent" crowd had someone else to put up for scrutiny- I think that's pretty consistent with my actions so far.

So, sorry I haven't been the bullwark backing up your attack that you wanted. I'll still vote your way if it comes to it- but only because there aren't any better candidates.


It's not that I really wanted someone backing me up, specifically. It's actually that you would attack and say he's guilty then not follow through with what you say.
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Rafo Mafia 4 Day 2 is over. Gher - 08/02/2010 06:53:53 PM 3926 Views
List of Players Gher - 08/02/2010 06:58:04 PM 1781 Views
This is great, thanks! *NM* Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 01:19:25 AM 1066 Views
Vote: Hieshyn Fox and Ravens - 15/02/2010 03:25:25 AM 1847 Views
Crap! Fox and Ravens - 15/02/2010 03:26:24 AM 1669 Views
Well, I guess I'll kick off this discussion Fox and Ravens - 08/02/2010 08:53:49 PM 1876 Views
Re: Well, I guess I'll kick off this discussion Isaac - 08/02/2010 09:28:57 PM 1649 Views
Hey, by the way, are you Mafia? beetnemesis - 08/02/2010 09:34:46 PM 1837 Views
I am not Hopper Isaac - 08/02/2010 10:37:55 PM 1743 Views
Maybe I am AWESOME beetnemesis - 08/02/2010 11:19:48 PM 1763 Views
Now that's a questionable claim. Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 02:36:25 AM 1775 Views
Hah! You underestimate my ego, madam! beetnemesis - 09/02/2010 06:25:28 AM 1626 Views
A few questions and comments beetnemesis - 08/02/2010 09:29:06 PM 1694 Views
Re: A few questions and comments Fox and Ravens - 08/02/2010 10:31:32 PM 1705 Views
Re: A few questions and comments beetnemesis - 08/02/2010 11:23:07 PM 1532 Views
Third Party Kronin al'Sulc - 08/02/2010 09:43:57 PM 1607 Views
Re: Third Party Fox and Ravens - 08/02/2010 10:34:38 PM 1701 Views
Re: Well, I guess I'll kick off this discussion White Flame of Tar Valon - 09/02/2010 02:47:03 AM 1681 Views
Re: Well, I guess I'll kick off this discussion Isaac - 09/02/2010 03:53:18 AM 1725 Views
I thinking Lynching F-T was the right thing to do. Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 04:45:13 AM 1681 Views
RBIRL ... test tomorrow. Probably not going to post tonight. *NM* Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 12:03:38 AM 1017 Views
You know what? Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 01:17:52 AM 1660 Views
NO! Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2010 01:31:57 AM 1630 Views
Re: You know what? Isaac - 09/02/2010 01:34:42 AM 1627 Views
Heh, inorganic chemistry. Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 01:57:39 AM 1690 Views
Re: Heh, inorganic chemistry. White Flame of Tar Valon - 09/02/2010 02:38:45 AM 1670 Views
Re: Heh, inorganic chemistry. Isaac - 09/02/2010 03:29:32 AM 1754 Views
Oh, I learned all those lessons last year. Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 04:05:04 AM 1668 Views
Re: Oh, I learned all those lessons last year. Isaac - 09/02/2010 04:50:41 AM 1769 Views
Re: Heh, inorganic chemistry. Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2010 03:36:28 AM 1693 Views
Well thanks for the encouragement. Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 04:14:50 AM 1822 Views
Heh, Mafia: Other than the occasional lynching or assassination, we're one big supportive family. Gher - 09/02/2010 04:24:26 AM 1806 Views
See, that way the betrayal is personal. Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 04:41:47 AM 1883 Views
Ouch *NM* Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2010 04:58:13 PM 1065 Views
*NM* Darth_Katie - 10/02/2010 01:02:30 AM 961 Views
Hypocop (Table) Kronin al'Sulc - 09/02/2010 12:59:06 AM 1769 Views
Beetnemesis, innocent. *NM* Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 01:17:10 AM 961 Views
Okay Isaac - 09/02/2010 01:29:09 AM 1504 Views
Kronin, innocent. *NM* Hobo - 09/02/2010 01:53:09 AM 918 Views
Isaac, Guilty *NM* ranagrande - 09/02/2010 02:12:07 AM 1053 Views
Isaac, innocent *NM* White Flame of Tar Valon - 09/02/2010 02:37:54 AM 975 Views
I investigated Fox and Ravens and found hi to be for the shadow. *NM* Hieshyn - 09/02/2010 04:46:50 AM 970 Views
Investigated fistofpainx, found him to be innocent *NM* beetnemesis - 09/02/2010 06:27:37 AM 998 Views
DK, found her innocent *NM* fistofpainx - 09/02/2010 01:48:11 PM 973 Views
Fox and Ravens, Guilty *NM* Bergioyn - 09/02/2010 03:57:50 PM 938 Views
Vote Record (Table) Darth_Katie - 09/02/2010 01:30:51 AM 1755 Views
I'll add: list of players who did NOT vote yesterday beetnemesis - 09/02/2010 06:46:38 AM 1660 Views
RBIRL Hieshyn - 09/02/2010 04:45:19 AM 1619 Views
Hmmm, Hobo - 09/02/2010 06:18:29 AM 1626 Views
We didn't lose two of our biggest roles. Also- I wonder if there are more roles? beetnemesis - 09/02/2010 06:35:05 AM 1529 Views
Re: We didn't lose two of our biggest roles. Also- I wonder if there are more roles? Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2010 07:16:19 AM 1637 Views
Re: Hmmm, Isaac - 09/02/2010 07:20:02 AM 1597 Views
Yeah, I agree with the Blaine rationalization beetnemesis - 09/02/2010 08:57:19 AM 1635 Views
Huh. Oh boy oh Bergioyn - 09/02/2010 06:39:15 AM 1489 Views
Care to give us your thoughts? *NM* Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2010 07:26:09 AM 1003 Views
Well, losing Doc and Deputy same night is bound to cause trouble. Especially losing Doc. *NM* Bergioyn - 09/02/2010 08:54:49 AM 983 Views
Well, yeah... Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2010 04:57:26 PM 1813 Views
Re: Well, yeah... Bergioyn - 09/02/2010 07:27:00 PM 1585 Views
I want to throw this out here. Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2010 07:21:04 AM 1702 Views
What changed your mind? *NM* beetnemesis - 09/02/2010 08:58:09 AM 954 Views
Well, I realized I was the one telling everyone to just vote for someone. Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2010 04:56:17 PM 1698 Views
*NM* Fanatic-Templar - 10/02/2010 02:56:52 AM 965 Views
I thought you'd like that. *NM* Fox and Ravens - 10/02/2010 01:00:19 PM 922 Views
I was going to post a few thoughts here this morning... ranagrande - 09/02/2010 01:49:26 PM 1655 Views
Why is everyone assuming we have a SK? Hobo - 10/02/2010 12:09:47 AM 1728 Views
What tips me off is the "melted plastic". Kronin al'Sulc - 10/02/2010 12:22:56 AM 1555 Views
Good point. Is an arsonist usually a third party? *NM* Hobo - 10/02/2010 12:28:10 AM 903 Views
That's so arbitrary, though. Darth_Katie - 10/02/2010 12:57:09 AM 1498 Views
EBWOP: It's probably not a vigilante. Darth_Katie - 10/02/2010 01:05:57 AM 1714 Views
That seems like good reasoning beetnemesis - 10/02/2010 01:50:47 AM 1647 Views
Re: That seems like good reasoning Isaac - 10/02/2010 01:58:14 AM 1697 Views
That's a vig rule? I did not know that beetnemesis - 10/02/2010 08:16:56 PM 1633 Views
Well, it's pretty common sense. Darth_Katie - 10/02/2010 09:09:09 PM 1769 Views
I think he might have been referring to vigilante kills being blockable ranagrande - 10/02/2010 09:43:53 PM 1567 Views
Oh, my bad then! *NM* Darth_Katie - 10/02/2010 10:19:13 PM 977 Views
As the resident expert on vigilantism ranagrande - 10/02/2010 08:04:17 PM 1983 Views
Youre the resident expert on vigilantism? *NM* Hobo - 11/02/2010 11:06:24 PM 973 Views
He was a vig once or twice. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 12/02/2010 01:33:57 AM 998 Views
I was the best vigilante you guys have ever had! *NM* ranagrande - 12/02/2010 02:19:57 AM 969 Views
The only vigilante we've ever had. Darth_Katie - 12/02/2010 02:25:20 AM 1557 Views
Wait, haven't you proposed an arsonist most games. *NM* Hobo - 10/02/2010 04:37:33 AM 932 Views
Maybe it's been proposed. Kronin al'Sulc - 10/02/2010 05:19:10 AM 1699 Views
Re: Maybe it's been proposed. Hobo - 10/02/2010 05:56:10 AM 1591 Views
Re: Why is everyone assuming we have a SK? Isaac - 10/02/2010 12:50:51 AM 1868 Views
Re: Why is everyone assuming we have a SK? White Flame of Tar Valon - 10/02/2010 01:11:50 AM 1602 Views
Because we have a SK *NM* Hieshyn - 10/02/2010 05:14:00 AM 923 Views
I agree that we probably have a SK ranagrande - 10/02/2010 07:50:33 PM 1601 Views
Nah, I was just saying *NM* Hieshyn - 11/02/2010 05:06:54 AM 971 Views
wait a minute fistofpainx - 10/02/2010 01:15:32 PM 1675 Views
Sensors? *NM* Fox and Ravens - 10/02/2010 01:42:36 PM 861 Views
Another thing Darth_Katie - 10/02/2010 04:42:50 PM 1752 Views
F-T, I assume beetnemesis - 10/02/2010 05:08:58 PM 1602 Views
Probably, might be a hint at an RB but I doubt it *NM* Isaac - 10/02/2010 06:57:01 PM 962 Views
I don't think it could be a RB ranagrande - 10/02/2010 07:47:55 PM 1702 Views
Probably not, but not for that reason Isaac - 10/02/2010 08:32:57 PM 1683 Views
Huh. Darth_Katie - 10/02/2010 09:11:29 PM 1659 Views
Did anyone get any messages last night? beetnemesis - 10/02/2010 08:23:03 PM 1586 Views
Nope *NM* White Flame of Tar Valon - 10/02/2010 08:35:18 PM 937 Views
Me neither. Darth_Katie - 10/02/2010 09:14:46 PM 1613 Views
Re: Me neither. ranagrande - 10/02/2010 09:41:19 PM 1756 Views
RBIRL Fox and Ravens - 11/02/2010 04:52:12 PM 1582 Views
Good luck! *NM* Darth_Katie - 11/02/2010 07:05:40 PM 909 Views
Re: RBIRL Isaac - 11/02/2010 09:59:39 PM 1826 Views
We're stalling out a bit Isaac - 11/02/2010 10:05:09 PM 1613 Views
Yep. Darth_Katie - 12/02/2010 02:58:02 AM 1507 Views
We could talk about my heroic failure to defend the innocent some more? Fine... beetnemesis - 12/02/2010 07:12:51 AM 1689 Views
You seem engaged in a very active defense so far this game Isaac - 12/02/2010 09:40:23 PM 1865 Views
Yawn... beetnemesis - 12/02/2010 11:28:50 PM 1811 Views
Re: Yawn... Isaac - 13/02/2010 12:32:30 AM 1755 Views
Re: Yawn... Darth_Katie - 13/02/2010 01:31:41 AM 1705 Views
Re: Yawn... ranagrande - 13/02/2010 02:24:40 AM 1622 Views
He's brought up accusations on himself Isaac - 13/02/2010 02:40:01 AM 1857 Views
Dammit, I had a post and then it got deleted. Darth_Katie - 14/02/2010 01:45:31 AM 1607 Views
Alrighty, let's try this again. Darth_Katie - 14/02/2010 06:38:26 AM 1505 Views
Always happy to answer your questions beetnemesis - 14/02/2010 07:35:35 AM 1565 Views
Thanks for the answers. Darth_Katie - 15/02/2010 07:29:31 PM 1639 Views
Re: Yawn... beetnemesis - 13/02/2010 02:02:34 AM 1737 Views
Re: Yawn... Isaac - 13/02/2010 02:48:22 AM 1594 Views
On F-T's accusations against you. Kronin al'Sulc - 14/02/2010 01:54:20 AM 1664 Views
Re: On F-T's accusations against you. Isaac - 14/02/2010 03:43:52 AM 1556 Views
Oh, right, I modded that one. Kronin al'Sulc - 14/02/2010 04:11:46 AM 1566 Views
That's right, I am the Breaker of Unbroken Records Darth_Katie - 14/02/2010 05:56:52 AM 1621 Views
Actually, quite few of my streaks were broken on that one Isaac - 14/02/2010 08:43:09 AM 1587 Views
I'm in second? Woo! Kronin al'Sulc - 14/02/2010 02:46:05 PM 1612 Views
Yep, welcome to being a lightning rod Isaac - 14/02/2010 09:10:43 PM 1784 Views
I'm not gonna be as targeted as you; I've died a LOT. Kronin al'Sulc - 14/02/2010 11:17:24 PM 1659 Views
Ironically I don't think I've ever killed you Isaac - 14/02/2010 11:56:03 PM 1624 Views
Game 1 I remember. Kronin al'Sulc - 15/02/2010 12:01:21 AM 1491 Views
Re: Game 1 I remember. Isaac - 15/02/2010 12:19:30 AM 1874 Views
Three stalled out over the winter holidays and we had to restart. Darth_Katie - 15/02/2010 01:26:59 AM 1833 Views
Oh, the MHael Steve incident! Kronin al'Sulc - 15/02/2010 04:42:31 AM 1672 Views
The game? Oh, right, that. Kronin al'Sulc - 15/02/2010 04:41:43 AM 1558 Views
Actually... Gher - 15/02/2010 04:57:50 PM 1692 Views
Sorry, it was my first game. Kronin al'Sulc - 16/02/2010 03:34:16 AM 1811 Views
That was my point actually. Gher - 16/02/2010 06:25:17 AM 1711 Views
Those were the good old days. Hobo - 18/02/2010 01:21:44 AM 1661 Views
random thoughts ranagrande - 15/02/2010 12:46:55 PM 1609 Views
I wasn't in that game. Hobo - 18/02/2010 01:19:06 AM 1576 Views
A second line of thought: ranagrande beetnemesis - 12/02/2010 07:40:37 AM 1903 Views
Argh... quote please Isaac - 12/02/2010 08:54:08 PM 1675 Views
Haha, fair enough beetnemesis - 12/02/2010 11:30:54 PM 1484 Views
I was getting all set to defend myself ranagrande - 13/02/2010 01:21:58 AM 1738 Views
RBIRL White Flame of Tar Valon - 14/02/2010 06:11:55 AM 1666 Views
Back White Flame of Tar Valon - 18/02/2010 02:14:25 AM 1691 Views
Vote: Hieshyn Fox and Ravens - 15/02/2010 03:27:04 AM 1498 Views
Re: Hieshyn ranagrande - 15/02/2010 12:54:42 PM 1766 Views
Well, it's less that discussion is winding down, and more that we don't have any new topics beetnemesis - 15/02/2010 05:48:22 PM 1545 Views
That's giving up awfully early. Darth_Katie - 15/02/2010 07:35:37 PM 1537 Views
Never give up! Never surrender! ranagrande - 15/02/2010 08:31:19 PM 1703 Views
Well this was unexpected. Hieshyn - 15/02/2010 06:07:44 PM 1571 Views
Re: Well this was unexpected. Fox and Ravens - 15/02/2010 08:30:57 PM 1605 Views
I think he's saying that he's been quiet because he's busy, not a DF beetnemesis - 15/02/2010 08:39:53 PM 1502 Views
I don't think so Isaac - 16/02/2010 12:09:13 AM 1651 Views
I assumed Darth_Katie - 16/02/2010 12:14:16 AM 1571 Views
Re: I assumed Isaac - 16/02/2010 01:28:43 AM 1702 Views
In a way Isaac is right Hieshyn - 16/02/2010 05:24:08 AM 1649 Views
If he was the SK Darth_Katie - 15/02/2010 07:55:38 PM 1731 Views
How many games did you guys play on wotmania, anyway? beetnemesis - 15/02/2010 08:43:04 PM 1595 Views
9 *NM* Gher - 15/02/2010 08:53:23 PM 1004 Views
Game 9 was F-T's Cairhienen Civil War/Succession. Gher - 15/02/2010 08:53:03 PM 1565 Views
Oh that's right! Darth_Katie - 15/02/2010 09:03:40 PM 1569 Views
We just took that game over. Kronin al'Sulc - 15/02/2010 10:12:43 PM 1643 Views
Oh yeah, we owned that one Isaac - 15/02/2010 11:48:12 PM 1532 Views
Re: Game 9 was F-T's Cairhienen Civil War/Succession. Isaac - 15/02/2010 11:54:44 PM 1666 Views
Lol irony Darth_Katie - 16/02/2010 12:16:49 AM 1612 Views
what I thought was pretty funny fistofpainx - 16/02/2010 12:41:47 AM 1636 Views
Heh heh the Cairhienins would be proud *NM* Darth_Katie - 16/02/2010 01:11:13 AM 974 Views
Oh, Isaac got High Seat there, didn't he? Kronin al'Sulc - 16/02/2010 01:33:05 AM 1616 Views
That was a fun one. Hobo - 18/02/2010 01:32:02 AM 1669 Views
So, it's just because he hasn't been talking much? That fits a lot of people beetnemesis - 15/02/2010 09:31:02 PM 1710 Views
well I really dont have anything worthwhile to say *NM* fistofpainx - 15/02/2010 10:06:11 PM 1022 Views
Eh... not good enough beetnemesis - 16/02/2010 12:19:22 AM 1625 Views
Holiday weekend Isaac - 15/02/2010 11:49:37 PM 1578 Views
OK, I'm glad that vote got some discussion flowing. Fox and Ravens - 16/02/2010 02:58:55 AM 1730 Views
Ooo sneaky sneaky Darth_Katie - 16/02/2010 03:58:37 AM 1818 Views
Re: Ooo sneaky sneaky Fox and Ravens - 16/02/2010 04:25:26 AM 1682 Views
It wasn't really a big thing. Darth_Katie - 16/02/2010 04:46:54 AM 1725 Views
Re: It wasn't really a big thing. Fox and Ravens - 16/02/2010 05:30:34 AM 1656 Views
You know doing this sort of thing can get you lynched Isaac - 16/02/2010 04:40:23 AM 1678 Views
Oh, I know it can. Fox and Ravens - 16/02/2010 05:23:13 AM 1691 Views
Re: Oh, I know it can. Isaac - 16/02/2010 07:00:53 AM 1760 Views
Since when are you against traps? Kronin al'Sulc - 16/02/2010 04:07:05 PM 1579 Views
Since game 4 or 5, roughly Isaac - 16/02/2010 10:57:19 PM 1641 Views
It's weird- I've never played Live Mafia, but I imagine it's very different. beetnemesis - 16/02/2010 08:58:09 AM 1732 Views
I'm glad it did too. ranagrande - 16/02/2010 01:16:14 PM 1662 Views
Regarding Inactivity and whatnot Gher - 16/02/2010 06:22:14 AM 1694 Views
I'm still here, I've been busy with studying, and hadn't realized I was gone this long. Bergioyn - 16/02/2010 06:50:44 AM 1604 Views
RBIRL - exams Thursday *NM* Darth_Katie - 17/02/2010 02:11:27 AM 999 Views
Sorry all. Friday thru Monday suddenly got really hectic, I wasn't home much at all. Hobo - 18/02/2010 01:54:02 AM 1653 Views
So, where are we at? Isaac - 18/02/2010 02:40:32 AM 1675 Views
Re: So, where are we at? Fox and Ravens - 18/02/2010 03:55:33 AM 1703 Views
EBWOP: Issac's maybe only a 5.5. No, a 5.7 beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 06:58:40 AM 1724 Views
OK so I apparantly lack the technical know-how to reply to myself beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 07:08:36 AM 1746 Views
Re: OK so I apparantly lack the technical know-how to reply to myself Isaac - 18/02/2010 07:54:05 AM 1625 Views
Well yeah, all of that is mostly why I haven't been pushing anything beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 08:51:14 AM 1537 Views
Uggggghhhh...Ok. This post makes me want to vote you off. Fox and Ravens - 18/02/2010 03:28:19 PM 1587 Views
You seem to have misunbderstood my question Isaac - 18/02/2010 04:28:47 PM 1611 Views
Re: You seem to have misunbderstood my question Fox and Ravens - 18/02/2010 05:10:14 PM 1823 Views
Nice little typo I have there on misundertood, that's gonna be nagging at me for all of Day 2 Isaac - 18/02/2010 05:25:49 PM 1584 Views
My post, "Re: Hieshyn" ranagrande - 18/02/2010 06:32:12 PM 1796 Views
Re: Nice little typo I have there on misundertood, that's gonna be nagging at me for all of Day 2 Fox and Ravens - 19/02/2010 04:45:25 AM 1544 Views
Thanks, all right let's review it Isaac - 19/02/2010 11:41:19 AM 1596 Views
A few thoughts ranagrande - 19/02/2010 03:22:32 PM 1580 Views
Alright then. Fox and Ravens - 19/02/2010 05:20:39 PM 1385 Views
EBWOP Fox and Ravens - 19/02/2010 05:23:06 PM 1743 Views
Haha, I'm sorry beetnemesis - 19/02/2010 05:49:00 PM 1563 Views
Re: EBWOP Isaac - 19/02/2010 06:53:08 PM 1739 Views
Naive? beetnemesis - 19/02/2010 07:13:14 PM 1699 Views
Naive or sinister, take your pick Isaac - 19/02/2010 07:29:09 PM 1695 Views
We could go with "arrogant," instead of either of those, if you like beetnemesis - 20/02/2010 01:59:22 AM 1434 Views
Hmm...well here's something interesting now that you reminded me of that game... Fox and Ravens - 19/02/2010 08:26:33 PM 1542 Views
Re: Hmm...well here's something interesting now that you reminded me of that game... Isaac - 19/02/2010 08:40:47 PM 1544 Views
That's true- I've said as much earlier in this thread beetnemesis - 20/02/2010 02:08:47 AM 1584 Views
Re: EBWOP White Flame of Tar Valon - 19/02/2010 08:32:55 PM 1530 Views
Re: EBWOP Isaac - 19/02/2010 08:57:50 PM 1532 Views
Speaking of that game Darth_Katie - 20/02/2010 06:03:18 AM 1609 Views
Re: Speaking of that game Isaac - 20/02/2010 05:24:16 PM 1559 Views
Actually, that reminds me. HEY KRONIN! beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 07:09:39 AM 1599 Views
Hey. Kronin al'Sulc - 18/02/2010 04:09:08 PM 1643 Views
Re: Hey. White Flame of Tar Valon - 18/02/2010 05:19:30 PM 1674 Views
Re: Hey. ranagrande - 18/02/2010 06:50:35 PM 1602 Views
Re: Hey. Isaac - 18/02/2010 05:37:33 PM 1754 Views
FT had no evidence one way or the other if Issac was a DF beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 05:44:43 PM 1526 Views
Don't put words in my mouth. Kronin al'Sulc - 18/02/2010 06:03:55 PM 1740 Views
Oh no, I know, I know. I'm just saying, FT has no more credibility than any of us *NM* beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 07:48:58 PM 967 Views
Well OK, a BIT more, because we know he was townie *NM* beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 07:49:34 PM 951 Views
But he IS a damn good player, and his advice, however limited, should be taken into account. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 18/02/2010 07:49:58 PM 943 Views
Fair enough *NM* beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 08:19:04 PM 921 Views
fistofpainx, Do you have any thoughts? beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 05:46:38 PM 1628 Views
I think that fistofpainx - 18/02/2010 09:45:56 PM 1664 Views
Well, if my combine the Vote Record with our previous suspicions... Kronin al'Sulc - 18/02/2010 09:48:24 PM 1613 Views
All right, ranagrande (and everyone else). Why shouldn't we lynch you? beetnemesis - 18/02/2010 11:32:07 PM 1584 Views
Re: All right, ranagrande (and everyone else). Why shouldn't we lynch you? Isaac - 19/02/2010 03:01:45 AM 1501 Views
Re: All right, ranagrande (and everyone else). Why shouldn't we lynch you? beetnemesis - 19/02/2010 04:07:03 AM 1655 Views
I think you're overestimating the appearance of your own innocence. Darth_Katie - 19/02/2010 05:38:53 AM 1543 Views
Yeah, it's mostly just about getting the conversation going beetnemesis - 19/02/2010 06:40:17 AM 1639 Views
About voting ranagrande - 19/02/2010 03:33:34 PM 1650 Views
Idk if that question about voting can be answered. Darth_Katie - 20/02/2010 06:15:21 AM 1678 Views
In response to Fox and Ravens (down here to stop horizontal scroll) Gher - 19/02/2010 09:50:16 PM 1690 Views
Re: In response to Fox and Ravens (down here to stop horizontal scroll) Fox and Ravens - 19/02/2010 10:22:37 PM 1689 Views
I agree ranagrande - 20/02/2010 02:52:53 PM 1480 Views
Should be fine.. although, maybe only paraphrase? beetnemesis - 20/02/2010 02:03:30 AM 1570 Views
Well, the reason for the prohibition doesn't apply post-game, so I'll go with no Isaac - 20/02/2010 05:07:38 AM 1610 Views
Seems pretty thorough to me! I pretty much agree. *NM* Darth_Katie - 20/02/2010 05:12:40 AM 945 Views
After seeing this thread.... Kronin al'Sulc - 20/02/2010 05:53:47 AM 1511 Views
Go ahead and start one then. Darth_Katie - 20/02/2010 06:08:12 AM 1655 Views
Re: Go ahead and start one then. Isaac - 20/02/2010 06:47:23 AM 1740 Views
Isaac, did you say you have Cor's original rules saved somewhere? Kronin al'Sulc - 20/02/2010 04:50:29 PM 1737 Views
Re: Isaac, did you say you have Cor's original rules saved somewhere? Isaac - 20/02/2010 05:16:09 PM 1783 Views
Well, these are as good a starting point as any. Kronin al'Sulc - 20/02/2010 05:22:34 PM 1553 Views
I think quoting NBs from other games is okay. Darth_Katie - 20/02/2010 05:15:55 AM 1633 Views
Quoting or paraphrasing is fine IMO *NM* White Flame of Tar Valon - 20/02/2010 05:31:45 AM 1028 Views
Fox and Ranagrande Darth_Katie - 20/02/2010 06:30:53 AM 1775 Views
Some comments... Fox and Ravens - 20/02/2010 07:54:02 PM 1680 Views
Alright. Gher - 20/02/2010 05:43:51 PM 1672 Views
Thanks Fox and Ravens - 20/02/2010 07:48:20 PM 1532 Views
Re: Thanks Isaac - 20/02/2010 10:35:26 PM 1506 Views
Ranagrande *NM* Fox and Ravens - 21/02/2010 12:55:29 AM 931 Views
Really? beetnemesis - 21/02/2010 01:58:24 AM 1649 Views
Go back and look at the NB for yourself. *NM* Fox and Ravens - 21/02/2010 04:29:54 AM 1011 Views
That's hilarious. *NM* Darth_Katie - 21/02/2010 06:47:57 PM 1018 Views
Re: Thanks beetnemesis - 21/02/2010 01:57:25 AM 1614 Views
I do have a question Isaac - 21/02/2010 07:12:57 PM 1703 Views
A prosaic explanation- (and an objection) beetnemesis - 21/02/2010 09:13:43 PM 1679 Views
Well, you kind of said it yourself. Darth_Katie - 21/02/2010 07:38:32 PM 1589 Views
I'm purposefully trying to not be so focussed on ranagrande Fox and Ravens - 21/02/2010 11:06:40 PM 1681 Views
Not sure I follow Darth_Katie - 22/02/2010 06:49:11 PM 1669 Views
Because I might just be blinding myself here. Fox and Ravens - 22/02/2010 07:40:15 PM 1708 Views
Oh, okay. That does make sense. Darth_Katie - 22/02/2010 07:52:10 PM 1794 Views
I think I do ranagrande - 22/02/2010 07:47:56 PM 1566 Views
I'm purposefully trying to not be so focussed on ranagrande Fox and Ravens - 21/02/2010 11:06:40 PM 1591 Views
EBWOP - sorry, double post *NM* Fox and Ravens - 21/02/2010 11:34:21 PM 937 Views
Items of note from my NB archive: beetnemesis - 21/02/2010 09:37:49 PM 1767 Views
I am kind of confused about what you're doing here. Darth_Katie - 22/02/2010 07:20:49 PM 1836 Views
I'm feeling the same thing. Fox and Ravens - 22/02/2010 07:36:46 PM 1646 Views
I hadn't even seen Beet's post at the bottom there until after I'd posted this. Darth_Katie - 22/02/2010 07:44:49 PM 1569 Views
Re: I am kind of confused about what you're doing here. ranagrande - 22/02/2010 08:07:19 PM 1617 Views
Re: Rafo Mafia 4 Day 2 Bergioyn - 22/02/2010 12:09:20 PM 1649 Views
Alright. Here's a quick synposis Fox and Ravens - 22/02/2010 07:54:19 PM 1679 Views
That sounds about right to me. Darth_Katie - 22/02/2010 07:58:29 PM 1660 Views
I'll try to, I just may not have the time to. If I do, I'll definately read them all. *NM* Bergioyn - 23/02/2010 07:05:24 AM 868 Views
(My two cents) beetnemesis - 22/02/2010 08:35:17 PM 1667 Views
Dude. Darth_Katie - 22/02/2010 08:53:30 PM 1679 Views
Re: Dude. beetnemesis - 22/02/2010 09:45:52 PM 1626 Views
Thanks. Bergioyn - 23/02/2010 07:04:29 AM 1708 Views
Another minor piece against ranagrande beetnemesis - 22/02/2010 07:13:44 PM 1678 Views
You didn't read the entirety of my quote post did you? Fox and Ravens - 22/02/2010 07:42:14 PM 1704 Views
Actually, I do have a small confession to make about that... ranagrande - 22/02/2010 08:14:08 PM 1749 Views
Re: Another minor piece against ranagrande Isaac - 22/02/2010 08:23:48 PM 1827 Views
Fair enough beetnemesis - 22/02/2010 08:38:51 PM 1769 Views
Re: Fair enough Fox and Ravens - 22/02/2010 09:07:57 PM 1636 Views
Re: Fair enough Fox and Ravens - 22/02/2010 09:07:57 PM 1596 Views
Numbers? beetnemesis - 22/02/2010 09:36:51 PM 1770 Views
Re: Numbers? Fox and Ravens - 22/02/2010 10:21:13 PM 1771 Views
I don't think he's innocent. OR a DF beetnemesis - 22/02/2010 10:42:16 PM 1564 Views
Maybe I missed it.... Kronin al'Sulc - 22/02/2010 09:26:47 PM 1734 Views
Re: Maybe I missed it.... beetnemesis - 22/02/2010 09:38:09 PM 1581 Views
Re: Maybe I missed it.... White Flame of Tar Valon - 23/02/2010 09:38:23 PM 1580 Views
I will destroy the world beetnemesis - 23/02/2010 11:17:26 PM 1713 Views
And yet, that's the exact same thing you called me out on yesterday. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 24/02/2010 01:07:07 AM 833 Views
Ok, that's totally different... beetnemesis - 24/02/2010 06:36:00 AM 1578 Views
All that's different is the presumed final intent. Kronin al'Sulc - 24/02/2010 12:36:32 PM 1727 Views
Yeah ... those are pretty much the same. *NM* Darth_Katie - 24/02/2010 03:17:25 PM 847 Views
Yea.... beet's looking worse and worse every time he opens his mouth, so to speak. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 24/02/2010 09:00:47 PM 944 Views
No, this is my view: beetnemesis - 24/02/2010 11:23:25 PM 1699 Views
And my view was: Kronin al'Sulc - 25/02/2010 01:29:13 AM 1584 Views
shrug. I haven't been attacking you today, you know beetnemesis - 25/02/2010 01:46:39 AM 1639 Views
I'm just pointing out the irony. Kronin al'Sulc - 25/02/2010 01:52:07 AM 1579 Views
Re: I'm just pointing out the irony. beetnemesis - 25/02/2010 06:47:45 AM 1626 Views
Vote: Fox and Ravens *NM* Hieshyn - 24/02/2010 04:51:24 AM 941 Views
Can I ask why? Fox and Ravens - 24/02/2010 05:06:22 AM 1609 Views
I'd be very interested in seeing an explanation as well *NM* ranagrande - 24/02/2010 08:04:30 PM 943 Views
Ditto. *NM* Darth_Katie - 24/02/2010 08:09:31 PM 944 Views
My, my, how totally unexpected Isaac - 24/02/2010 01:01:42 PM 1698 Views
Reasoning would be nice *NM* White Flame of Tar Valon - 24/02/2010 10:13:43 PM 961 Views
Eh? *NM* beetnemesis - 25/02/2010 01:47:19 AM 929 Views
Hieshyn I will DESTROY you beetnemesis - 27/02/2010 01:41:25 AM 1608 Views
We're sort of in a holding pattern here, Hieshyn Isaac - 25/02/2010 07:01:23 PM 1773 Views
You're right, Isaac. Fox and Ravens - 25/02/2010 08:47:03 PM 1753 Views
Though I presume this was already somewhat obvious, ^Seconded. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 25/02/2010 08:56:19 PM 873 Views
I'll agree. Beet has been suspicious, and we havent found enough with ranagrande to continue *NM* White Flame of Tar Valon - 26/02/2010 02:00:36 AM 964 Views
Hieshyns and Foxes and Beets! Oh my! ranagrande - 26/02/2010 02:59:51 PM 1660 Views
At first I thought he was going for a F&R-style trap beetnemesis - 26/02/2010 01:44:16 AM 1672 Views
Re: At first I thought he was going for a F&R-style trap Fox and Ravens - 26/02/2010 06:10:33 AM 1691 Views
Re: At first I thought he was going for a F&R-style trap beetnemesis - 26/02/2010 07:00:02 AM 1711 Views
RBIRL. Had a lot of school stuff, gone for the weekend. Sorry. *NM* Hobo - 27/02/2010 01:05:40 AM 947 Views
Sorry I've been insanely busy. Hieshyn - 27/02/2010 03:33:43 AM 1738 Views
Here's what I'm getting from this: beetnemesis - 27/02/2010 06:49:22 AM 1628 Views
Could be Hieshyn - 27/02/2010 06:16:30 PM 1612 Views
Re: Could be Isaac - 27/02/2010 07:15:07 PM 1699 Views
This seems a lot like an OMGUS. Kronin al'Sulc - 27/02/2010 07:02:12 AM 1587 Views
Well, we have a very weird situation here Isaac - 27/02/2010 05:13:12 PM 1692 Views
Re: Well, we have a very weird situation here White Flame of Tar Valon - 27/02/2010 05:40:16 PM 1534 Views
Re: Sorry I've been insanely busy. Fox and Ravens - 27/02/2010 07:06:39 AM 1662 Views
Re: Sorry I've been insanely busy. beetnemesis - 27/02/2010 07:55:13 AM 1541 Views
Gotcha, thanks. *NM* Fox and Ravens - 27/02/2010 08:07:21 AM 961 Views
Okay, let's try to finish off today Isaac - 27/02/2010 07:27:09 PM 1683 Views
Re: Okay, let's try to finish off today White Flame of Tar Valon - 27/02/2010 08:24:14 PM 1822 Views
Interesting. Darth_Katie - 27/02/2010 09:28:33 PM 1585 Views
I sort of assumed everyone knew where I'm aiming, I've been pretty open about it Isaac - 27/02/2010 09:45:50 PM 1644 Views
Oh, right. Darth_Katie - 28/02/2010 04:32:13 AM 1545 Views
Vote: ranagrande Fox and Ravens - 27/02/2010 09:12:51 PM 1594 Views
Hmmm White Flame of Tar Valon - 27/02/2010 11:31:52 PM 1500 Views
Re: Hmmm beetnemesis - 28/02/2010 12:41:07 AM 1600 Views
What, if anything, has changed? Isaac - 28/02/2010 03:19:49 AM 1597 Views
Dang, I didn't know you could make text larger. Fancy! *NM* Darth_Katie - 28/02/2010 04:57:28 AM 904 Views
A little joke Isaac - 28/02/2010 05:16:14 AM 2388 Views
Haha nice. Darth_Katie - 28/02/2010 05:41:14 AM 1773 Views
Re: Haha nice. Isaac - 28/02/2010 06:29:58 AM 2338 Views
Woah, that's a pretty sneaky trick with the quote links. Darth_Katie - 28/02/2010 07:14:22 AM 1599 Views
Oh, and RBIRL: midterms week. *NM* Darth_Katie - 27/02/2010 09:35:25 PM 931 Views
Yikes (warning: lots of text) beetnemesis - 28/02/2010 12:35:16 AM 1629 Views
Why do you keep calling my death inevitable? Isaac - 28/02/2010 02:51:26 AM 1586 Views
Because you have often said you're a lightning rod beetnemesis - 28/02/2010 07:48:14 AM 1723 Views
Guess I'll set up the other camp: Vote: beetnemesis Kronin al'Sulc - 28/02/2010 03:22:49 AM 1551 Views
fair enough White Flame of Tar Valon - 28/02/2010 04:40:02 AM 1519 Views
Yeah, I would like an explanation. Darth_Katie - 28/02/2010 05:00:55 AM 1550 Views
Vote: beetnemesis White Flame of Tar Valon - 01/03/2010 03:18:00 AM 1665 Views
EBWOP White Flame of Tar Valon - 01/03/2010 03:20:24 AM 1572 Views
"Jumpy?" beetnemesis - 01/03/2010 05:47:37 AM 1555 Views
Re: "Jumpy?" White Flame of Tar Valon - 03/03/2010 05:35:50 AM 1664 Views
I GUESS I'll contribute my opinion. Darth_Katie - 28/02/2010 06:15:36 AM 1653 Views
What a rebel beetnemesis - 28/02/2010 07:52:50 AM 1592 Views
me and beet ranagrande - 28/02/2010 01:03:59 PM 1684 Views
my stance on voting fistofpainx - 01/03/2010 03:08:33 AM 1685 Views
Re: my stance on voting White Flame of Tar Valon - 01/03/2010 03:21:32 AM 1723 Views
well the reason my not posting as much fistofpainx - 01/03/2010 04:03:26 AM 1635 Views
Re: well the reason my not posting as much White Flame of Tar Valon - 01/03/2010 05:28:48 AM 1510 Views
Do you get a ring for voting abstinence? Hieshyn - 01/03/2010 04:56:57 AM 1739 Views
LOL *NM* White Flame of Tar Valon - 01/03/2010 05:26:14 AM 899 Views
RBIRL until thursday. Bergioyn - 01/03/2010 07:06:50 AM 1543 Views
You undecided people really need to make up your minds Fox and Ravens - 01/03/2010 07:32:42 PM 1615 Views
Seriously, the suspense is killing me *NM* beetnemesis - 02/03/2010 05:30:26 PM 949 Views
Agreed, this is really getting ridiculous *NM* Isaac - 02/03/2010 08:06:12 PM 1015 Views
Perhaps a deadline would liven things up? Gher - 02/03/2010 08:46:35 PM 1602 Views
Please Fox and Ravens - 02/03/2010 09:12:36 PM 1645 Views
beetnemesis - 02/03/2010 11:20:19 PM 1743 Views
Re: Fox and Ravens - 02/03/2010 11:49:21 PM 1619 Views
Did you unvote? Gher - 03/03/2010 04:22:52 AM 1649 Views
I always forget that! Fox and Ravens - 03/03/2010 01:04:09 PM 1550 Views
I'm sorry. Darth_Katie - 03/03/2010 03:54:56 AM 1623 Views
But... I'm much more interesting than some stupid "book!" beetnemesis - 03/03/2010 04:11:02 AM 1562 Views
Its Hammer Time! Hieshyn - 03/03/2010 05:25:27 AM 1628 Views
Re: Its Hammer Time! White Flame of Tar Valon - 03/03/2010 05:32:34 AM 1537 Views
I hope you all feel really guilty about this beetnemesis - 03/03/2010 06:22:57 AM 1481 Views
Not likely, we're pretty draconian about lynches these days Isaac - 03/03/2010 09:15:00 AM 1537 Views
..I can and HAVE rebutted these. beetnemesis - 03/03/2010 05:15:32 PM 1554 Views
EBWOP: I need to start hitting preview to make sure the formatting is right. beetnemesis - 03/03/2010 05:18:43 PM 1531 Views
I'm sorry, I am not convinced Isaac - 03/03/2010 11:16:36 PM 1511 Views
I figured it'd be meaningless to RC, but ok... beetnemesis - 04/03/2010 01:54:36 AM 1594 Views
Well you figured very wrong Isaac - 04/03/2010 01:57:09 AM 1744 Views
All right, let's look at this Isaac - 04/03/2010 02:06:58 AM 1693 Views
This is a very interesting development ranagrande - 04/03/2010 02:22:46 AM 1721 Views
Ditto. Darth_Katie - 04/03/2010 02:28:18 AM 1819 Views
Re: All right, let's look at this White Flame of Tar Valon - 04/03/2010 03:46:38 AM 1481 Views
Gosh. beetnemesis - 04/03/2010 04:01:04 AM 1595 Views
I find this very, very, very, VERY unlikely. Fox and Ravens - 04/03/2010 05:25:41 AM 1713 Views
We're only waiting on Bergioyn and Fist, I believe. Darth_Katie - 04/03/2010 05:56:36 AM 1589 Views
Now we are down to Fist White Flame of Tar Valon - 04/03/2010 03:47:22 PM 1532 Views
At this point I feel like anything I could say would only hurt my case beetnemesis - 04/03/2010 06:34:43 AM 1608 Views
You brought this upon yourself. Kronin al'Sulc - 03/03/2010 01:06:58 PM 1574 Views
Your fencing smiley has dulled my scathing retort beetnemesis - 03/03/2010 05:19:49 PM 1655 Views
Kronin al'Sulc - 03/03/2010 05:34:11 PM 1687 Views
I'm back. Hobo - 03/03/2010 07:32:24 PM 1695 Views
I'll give it a shot beetnemesis - 03/03/2010 08:19:01 PM 1708 Views
Are you a Town Roleblocker? (Table) - Summary: All 'No' Isaac - 04/03/2010 02:28:55 AM 1777 Views
No. *NM* Darth_Katie - 04/03/2010 02:29:51 AM 966 Views
No *NM* ranagrande - 04/03/2010 02:31:43 AM 967 Views
Nope. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 04/03/2010 02:32:54 AM 882 Views
Re: Are you a Town Roleblocker? (Table) *NM* Isaac - 04/03/2010 02:34:19 AM 911 Views
Ignore, hit 'reply' instead of 'edit' I think *NM* Isaac - 04/03/2010 02:36:02 AM 852 Views
No *NM* White Flame of Tar Valon - 04/03/2010 03:40:15 AM 970 Views
No *NM* Hieshyn - 04/03/2010 04:44:27 AM 917 Views
No, sir *NM* Fox and Ravens - 04/03/2010 05:20:43 AM 1014 Views
Nope. *NM* Hobo - 04/03/2010 05:25:10 AM 906 Views
No. *NM* Bergioyn - 04/03/2010 01:54:15 PM 928 Views
no *NM* fistofpainx - 05/03/2010 03:52:07 AM 932 Views
Well, I don't think there is much point in further delay Isaac - 04/03/2010 11:44:57 PM 1495 Views
To the roleblocker: beetnemesis - 05/03/2010 01:46:50 AM 1663 Views
That's everyone, Vote: Beetnemesis *NM* Isaac - 05/03/2010 04:06:03 AM 930 Views
I think that's everyone. Darth_Katie - 05/03/2010 04:39:23 AM 1505 Views
I wouldn't jump on fist- he seems like he just rarely posts beetnemesis - 05/03/2010 06:21:34 AM 1803 Views
Also: Someone kill me! Eh, screw it. beetnemesis - 05/03/2010 06:27:29 AM 1739 Views
RBIRL White Flame of Tar Valon - 05/03/2010 05:17:54 AM 1547 Views
Well, Beet already hammered. Hobo - 05/03/2010 06:44:08 AM 1581 Views
Hah! It's like a ghost! Or a lame-duck president beetnemesis - 05/03/2010 07:22:42 AM 1627 Views
Not a bad idea Isaac - 05/03/2010 08:13:59 AM 1685 Views
Beetnemesis has been lynched Gher - 05/03/2010 05:38:05 PM 1672 Views
Sorry Beet! *NM* Fox and Ravens - 06/03/2010 05:11:56 AM 938 Views
You shall be the only one I don't haunt *NM* beetnemesis - 06/03/2010 06:29:23 AM 851 Views
Yo, what did I do to you? *NM* Hieshyn - 06/03/2010 06:47:51 PM 999 Views
I meant of those who lynched me! You shall be EXALTED! beetnemesis - 06/03/2010 06:52:39 PM 1703 Views
Hmm... tell me more about this robot-heaven ranagrande - 06/03/2010 09:15:57 PM 1715 Views
In both places, the humans are our slaves beetnemesis - 07/03/2010 06:48:29 PM 1755 Views
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