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Re: That's the first time I have ever heard/seen anyone say that. nossy Send a noteboard - 05/04/2012 02:08:26 AM
You keep doing it! Female character is fine, female human is fine, but female just on its own? xx(

Really? Who would say "female human?" I'm just surprised, since I didn't realize this was a thing. I mean, I am female, and it wouldn't occur to me to be upset, unless someone said "typical female," or something of that nature. And then, I'd be angry at the stereotype, not the term.


Right there- you're using female correctly. When you say "I am female" you're using female as an adjective. To use it as a noun, it would have to be "I am a female". Doesn't that sound odd? The implied word in that sentence is "human", as in "I am a female human".

Not particularly? I almost wrote "I am a female," so I think of it interchangeably. Either way, you know the human is implied, but that I also happen to self-identify as female.
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The Hunger Games gets a ... different kind of review. Artsapat - 03/04/2012 03:37:39 PM 2542 Views
"Written by a female with femalist themes" Vivien - 03/04/2012 04:38:54 PM 1296 Views
Ok, I did and basically it's garbage. *NM* Vivien - 03/04/2012 04:53:00 PM 1140 Views
I grant that I haven't read the Hunger Games yet LadyLorraine - 03/04/2012 05:10:38 PM 1242 Views
No, it's totally off. *NM* Aeryn - 03/04/2012 05:39:03 PM 1104 Views
fair enough. like I said, I haven't read it yet. *NM* LadyLorraine - 03/04/2012 07:20:34 PM 1039 Views
It's not. That's what shallow idiots say about things where women have power or physical skills *NM* Cannoli - 04/04/2012 03:45:22 PM 1143 Views
I can only speak for the film, which was not feminist. ironclad - 03/04/2012 06:01:18 PM 1208 Views
Where do I start? Vivien - 03/04/2012 07:43:18 PM 1215 Views
Hermoine was the most kick ass of the Potter kids. MightyYT - 04/04/2012 03:08:17 AM 1065 Views
So? Hunger Games has lots of male characters. Vivien - 04/04/2012 05:30:21 AM 1137 Views
But that is exactly what feminist means "it could have been a boy just as well" Aeryn - 04/04/2012 01:42:43 PM 1207 Views
His racism point... Artsapat - 04/04/2012 02:32:43 PM 1021 Views
Makes me almost wish I knew the source material so I could judge what he is saying A Deathwatch Guard - 03/04/2012 10:50:48 PM 1102 Views
Why don't you think the Hunger Games are feminist? Vivien - 03/04/2012 11:17:53 PM 1222 Views
Why would I consider it to be femenist? A Deathwatch Guard - 04/04/2012 01:51:24 AM 1119 Views
I just don't consider feminism as something that has to be radical. Vivien - 04/04/2012 05:42:59 AM 1198 Views
Completely agree with your first paragraph ironclad - 04/04/2012 08:22:35 AM 1192 Views
Re: Completely agree with your first paragraph DomA - 04/04/2012 01:43:55 PM 1134 Views
To you "feminist" is a dirty word? To me, it means acceptable. Differences in definitions I think Aeryn - 04/04/2012 01:50:32 PM 1096 Views
Unfortunately truly ordinary female characters are so rare that the exceptions stand out Aeryn - 04/04/2012 01:49:16 PM 1162 Views
Fair enough ironclad - 04/04/2012 02:33:22 PM 1217 Views
Stop using female as a noun! Vivien - 04/04/2012 03:51:13 PM 1099 Views
It's stuff like that that makes you lose cred ironclad - 04/04/2012 05:26:24 PM 1156 Views
It's fairly derogatory as a noun, though, have to agree with Vivien on that one. Legolas - 04/04/2012 07:30:18 PM 1106 Views
I don't think Jens was really using it that way, though LadyLorraine - 04/04/2012 07:34:28 PM 1021 Views
Thank you! ironclad - 04/04/2012 08:03:38 PM 1136 Views
Of course he didn't intend it that way, but that's how it sounds. Legolas - 04/04/2012 08:06:03 PM 1121 Views
I understand that, but it's still such a ridiculous thing to get fussed over LadyLorraine - 04/04/2012 09:20:01 PM 1166 Views
You are rather exaggerating just how "fussed" anyone did get, you do realize. Legolas - 04/04/2012 09:51:22 PM 1078 Views
Her tone was not just "informative". It was accusatory LadyLorraine - 04/04/2012 10:17:57 PM 1046 Views
Female is perfectly acceptable to use in a medical/clinical setting. *NM* Vivien - 04/04/2012 10:36:57 PM 1303 Views
so if your problem is people using it disparagingly... LadyLorraine - 04/04/2012 10:45:10 PM 1027 Views
That's not what I said. Vivien - 04/04/2012 10:51:41 PM 1192 Views
I'm going to have to just outright disagree with you then. *NM* LadyLorraine - 04/04/2012 10:54:25 PM 1085 Views
Which flies in the face of it's ordinary usage, which smacks of needless revisionism. Dan - 06/04/2012 09:42:15 AM 1085 Views
Oh please. Stop telling females to shut up. *NM* Aeryn - 09/04/2012 12:45:58 PM 1177 Views
If I wanted to be accusatory... Vivien - 04/04/2012 11:05:37 PM 1086 Views
Accusatory of what.i think you meant annoyed. So youre annoyed she was annoyed? Let's out this to re *NM* Aeryn - 09/04/2012 12:44:17 PM 1157 Views
Are you a native English speaker, Legolas? (Clarified to preempt possible internet tears) Dan - 06/04/2012 09:29:28 AM 1144 Views
Nope. (edit) Legolas - 06/04/2012 07:23:54 PM 1116 Views
Re: Nope. (edit) Dan - 07/04/2012 04:51:30 AM 1188 Views
"Female that"? That's even worse. Legolas - 07/04/2012 11:42:00 AM 1058 Views
Ok. Dan - 07/04/2012 03:27:16 PM 1377 Views
Let's try and whittle this down some so as to help you with the quotes. Legolas - 07/04/2012 05:42:32 PM 1070 Views
However he meant it, it was unpleasant to read. Just use "woman" instead. *NM* Aeryn - 05/04/2012 08:13:13 PM 1032 Views
Re: It's fairly derogatory as a noun, though, have to agree with Vivien on that one. DomA - 05/04/2012 02:21:21 AM 1139 Views
I think the language difference is really interesting. nossy - 05/04/2012 03:13:03 PM 1156 Views
English is not French, and it's not German. Particularly the connotations of American English words Dan - 06/04/2012 09:39:00 AM 1233 Views
LOL! You don't say... DomA - 06/04/2012 05:06:20 PM 1091 Views
LOL u so mad Dan - 06/04/2012 06:19:28 PM 1115 Views
The prospect of "losing cred" is not going to stop me from speaking my mind. Vivien - 04/04/2012 10:30:03 PM 1072 Views
My dear Aeryn - 09/04/2012 01:07:34 PM 1143 Views
LOL ironclad - 09/04/2012 01:57:53 PM 953 Views
guess what, it is a noun. *NM* LadyLorraine - 04/04/2012 07:26:39 PM 952 Views
That's the first time I have ever heard/seen anyone say that. nossy - 04/04/2012 08:19:02 PM 1102 Views
well it's important that you say "female human" LadyLorraine - 04/04/2012 09:28:45 PM 1058 Views
Re: That's the first time I have ever heard/seen anyone say that. Vivien - 04/04/2012 10:48:07 PM 1058 Views
wait, so now you're claiming it's a grammatical thing? *NM* LadyLorraine - 04/04/2012 10:58:31 PM 1114 Views
No, I have issues with words that begin with the letter f. Vivien - 04/04/2012 11:09:45 PM 1096 Views
ooookay then. LadyLorraine - 04/04/2012 11:11:23 PM 1148 Views
Re: That's the first time I have ever heard/seen anyone say that. nossy - 05/04/2012 02:08:26 AM 1140 Views
Re: Stop using female as a noun! dacole - 05/04/2012 02:18:47 PM 1007 Views
If dislike of the use of female as a noun makes me crazy town, I'm not the only crazy in here. Vivien - 05/04/2012 05:59:16 PM 1046 Views
For the record, I certainly don't think you're crazy town. nossy - 05/04/2012 07:23:18 PM 1081 Views
Oh, so now we're using 'dislike' instead of 'should'. It's funny how you fell back on that. Dan - 06/04/2012 10:01:59 AM 1131 Views
Fascinating. Vivien - 06/04/2012 09:54:47 PM 1104 Views
Re: Fascinating. Dan - 07/04/2012 03:54:26 AM 1108 Views
Just in case (however slim that chance may be) you are genuinely interested in citations/references. Vivien - 07/04/2012 05:34:37 AM 1089 Views
What a joke. Do you even know what grammar is? Dan - 07/04/2012 05:57:40 AM 1169 Views
Oh, come off it. This should be the point where you admit to being wrong. Legolas - 07/04/2012 12:11:07 PM 1044 Views
Sorry, no. Read better. Dan - 07/04/2012 02:23:10 PM 1077 Views
*deletes long reply* Let's focus on the essence here. Legolas - 07/04/2012 06:38:08 PM 1048 Views
Re: *deletes long reply* Let's focus on the essence here. Dan - 07/04/2012 09:26:34 PM 1215 Views
Aha, we found the problem Aeryn - 09/04/2012 01:03:35 PM 1162 Views
You're being disingenuous. Aeryn - 09/04/2012 12:57:38 PM 1071 Views
Re: If dislike of the use of female as a noun makes me crazy town, I'm not the only crazy in here. dacole - 09/04/2012 03:09:06 AM 1078 Views
Nothing wrong with your use of female. You should ignore those crazy foreigners saying otherwise. *NM* snoopcester - 06/04/2012 02:49:41 PM 938 Views
I think I'll start saying males instead of men. If the males here don't mind? *NM* Aeryn - 09/04/2012 12:58:54 PM 1071 Views
To be fair Artsapat - 04/04/2012 02:37:25 PM 1094 Views
You didn't see thmovie? She is far from passive Aeryn - 04/04/2012 01:46:16 PM 1123 Views
Re: You didn't see thmovie? She is far from passive Artsapat - 04/04/2012 02:23:33 PM 1063 Views
Re: You didn't see thmovie? She is far from passive Bored - 04/04/2012 07:51:46 PM 1089 Views
This Cannoli - 05/04/2012 12:20:04 AM 1070 Views
Interesting. I really need to read these books soon, evidently. *NM* Legolas - 03/04/2012 10:52:43 PM 1066 Views
I got half way through the review and got bored. MightyYT - 04/04/2012 03:09:58 AM 1066 Views
And it appears the writer of the article completely missed a central point of the story *spoilers* Mat Maniac - 04/04/2012 05:44:40 AM 1123 Views
I think that might be debatable Cannoli - 05/04/2012 06:59:35 PM 1113 Views
She still made plenty of choices and she did choose to kill. Vivien - 05/04/2012 07:13:47 PM 1047 Views
The reviewer is kind of full of it, but makes a good point about the character Cannoli - 04/04/2012 04:22:30 PM 1161 Views
Out of curiosity (this off topic) LadyLorraine - 04/04/2012 07:32:25 PM 1047 Views
Rachel, of course. Cannoli - 05/04/2012 12:17:41 AM 1153 Views
Well. Now I've actually seen it. (mild spoilers) Legolas - 09/04/2012 12:17:03 AM 1137 Views
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