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Was finn as strong as Leia? I would say not even close random thoughts Send a noteboard - 05/01/2016 05:55:51 PM

Look at from this point of view. When the first move came out all the little boys went home wanting to be either Hans or Luke and al the little girls went home wanting to be Leia. She was a strong confident women who has no problem speaking her mind and did not wait around waiting to be rescued by men but instead played her own critical role in the story. Hell she even stood up to the wookie tha had Finn cowering. No one would say the Leia took a back seat to Luke or Hans but the same cannot be said for Finn the sidekick. I guess in world of social justice girl power trumps racial equality but in the end little boys did not go home wanting to be Finn, they went home still wanting to be Luke.

As for helping the plight of women and minorities that is just flawed logic. I fully support making a main character black, the original series did it to a degree. Of the major black characters in the series Finn, the former sanitation worker, is the weakest and I am not sure how making the black man the little buddy to the white girl helps minorities. I do object to the idea that new white characters can only be bad guys and need to look as much like Nazis as possible, make sure you zoom in on those blue eyes and blonde hair. I am sure that was no accident fro the Jewish Abrams.

The idea that portraying women as a match for men in close combat is not just misguided but it is down right stupid and has the exact opposite affect that is intended. In the real world when girls fight boys they get hurt and they can be hurt badly. Anything that makes it OK for a man to fight a women like she is a man does not help women and presenting women as equals to men in combat does exactly that.

Have message but please keep the misguided social justice from running the story line. It is almost as bad the product marking driving the plot in the prequel.

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Star Wars : The Force Awakens review (spoiler free) - 17/12/2015 09:18:26 AM 2517 Views
Love your review! I'm seeing it tomorrow night at 9pm. Can't wait! *NM* - 18/12/2015 01:20:16 AM 872 Views
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Also, SPOILER thoughts. - 18/12/2015 01:00:32 PM 1574 Views
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Re: They were all good. Internet geeks suck. - 19/12/2015 07:46:06 AM 1543 Views
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Yip that's true *NM* - 19/12/2015 07:46:59 AM 826 Views
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JJ Abrams should be able to do better than my Mom - 30/12/2015 04:20:54 AM 1325 Views
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Lucas has created some of the most iconics chacters in movie history ? - 31/12/2015 02:29:02 PM 1292 Views
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Why is time for female lead and why does the lef think subtraction is the answer to inequality? - 04/01/2016 01:37:37 PM 1141 Views
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Just another check the box movie, then - 04/01/2016 06:02:41 PM 1265 Views
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They are talking abou tmakin ght Gunslinger black - 05/01/2016 02:05:36 PM 1277 Views
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I don't think it was Disney's business acumen. - 06/01/2016 06:59:46 PM 1526 Views
Wow. That's... sad. - 06/01/2016 09:32:37 PM 1404 Views
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The culture wars are just about blacks and feminists. - 13/01/2016 02:31:20 AM 1348 Views
All that Paul said - 17/01/2016 05:13:59 PM 1992 Views
LOL - 05/01/2016 06:33:50 PM 1309 Views
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It's not a straw man - 08/01/2016 04:52:03 PM 1356 Views
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Was finn as strong as Leia? I would say not even close - 05/01/2016 05:55:51 PM 1321 Views
I don't see how it makes sense to compare their roles, but Finn is certainly plenty strong. - 05/01/2016 07:38:05 PM 1387 Views
Finn reacts and is pretty much drug through the story - 06/01/2016 02:52:58 PM 1432 Views
Re: Finn reacts and is pretty much drug through the story - 06/01/2016 05:50:08 PM 1331 Views
I don't have an issue with a strong female jedi - 07/01/2016 02:49:44 PM 1318 Views
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The reall issue it looks like Luke sucked as Jedi master - 07/01/2016 07:14:31 PM 1291 Views
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What a load of crap. - 08/01/2016 10:29:35 AM 1265 Views
I only partially agree - 08/01/2016 03:27:10 PM 1393 Views
Sorry if science isn't your thing but no what I said is true - 09/01/2016 11:49:15 PM 1429 Views
Re: Was finn as strong as Leia? I would say not even close - 08/01/2016 10:01:16 AM 1246 Views
Well said *NM* - 05/01/2016 12:01:25 PM 889 Views
Because it isn't "subtraction"... - 08/01/2016 09:33:24 AM 1294 Views
Of course it is - 09/01/2016 10:19:53 PM 1267 Views
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I may be alone on this, but... - 05/01/2016 08:07:26 PM 1355 Views
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It's all good stuff, like the first book in a good sci-fi/fantasy trilogy! - 07/01/2016 06:44:45 AM 1356 Views
I think it's pretty obvious... - 17/01/2016 07:43:19 AM 1451 Views

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