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Good point ... Shishka Send a noteboard - 10/05/2010 06:45:52 PM
As far as I am aware, Leanne got to know of the DR a just before the Hall. She, at least, did absolutely nothing wrong. She was just too influential and loyal to Siuan to leave behind. Had they left her unstilled, she could have made Elaida's life difficult. Removing her was a matter of convenience, not justice.


I was (mistakenly) thinking that Leane knew what Siuan and Moiraine were up to, but you're right (as far as I know). I checked Encyc.WoT, and it seems Siuan (in TGH) always had Leane leave the room whenever she talked to Moiraine. I wonder if Siuan did that to try to protect Leane, or just to keep as few people as possible from knowing. Some of both, I would imagine. I don't think Siuan mistrusted Leane, but my memory of these details is very hazy.

Anyway ... I agree with what you said. Although, I suspect that Elaida and co. simply assumed Leane was in on it, rather than assume she wasn't but stilled her anyway for the reasons you stated. I don't recall if there was ever any discussion of this, in TSR when it happened or later when the two went to Salidar.
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Character discussion 2 : Siuan Sanche and Leane Sharif Sidious - 09/05/2010 06:01:33 PM 5327 Views
The "Shrinking of Siuan" after stilling destroyed my initial awe for the Amyrlin positition... Shannow - 09/05/2010 07:07:09 PM 1264 Views
yeah, but then again ... Velveti - 09/05/2010 09:05:36 PM 1002 Views
That's total nonsense... fionwe1987 - 10/05/2010 08:34:08 AM 1244 Views
No, THAT's total nonsense... Shannow - 10/05/2010 09:27:41 AM 1118 Views
He raised other issues too Sidious - 10/05/2010 11:04:52 AM 1115 Views
You seem to deal in bad analogies... fionwe1987 - 10/05/2010 05:14:47 PM 1127 Views
You've got an irritating manner about you. No wonder you find Aes Sedai so believable. Shannow - 10/05/2010 05:53:00 PM 979 Views
Hello Pot. I'm Kettle. fionwe1987 - 10/05/2010 06:41:58 PM 1000 Views
Hello Kettle. I'm Frying pan *NM* darius_sedai - 11/05/2010 03:43:20 PM 542 Views
Hello Frying pan. I'm Skillet. *NM* BlackAdder - 12/05/2010 11:50:33 PM 556 Views
Re: Hello Skillet, I'm a baking sheet can't we all have some cookies and get along? *NM* HyogaRott - 17/05/2010 05:17:24 PM 496 Views
I usually agree about his manner, but he's right here. Cannoli - 12/05/2010 04:24:28 AM 1089 Views
All of those people EARNED their positions by being the best, not a compromise candidate for office! Cannoli - 12/05/2010 04:36:36 AM 1187 Views
Re: No, THAT's total nonsense... lyringlas - 19/05/2010 04:39:07 PM 1032 Views
Re: The "Shrinking of Siuan" after stilling destroyed my initial awe for the Amyrlin positition... Cannoli - 12/05/2010 04:23:07 AM 1077 Views
Re: The "Shrinking of Siuan" after stilling destroyed my initial awe for the Amyrlin positition... BlackAdder - 12/05/2010 06:33:37 AM 1022 Views
I think you're looking at it the wrong way. BlackAdder - 12/05/2010 06:32:00 AM 1033 Views
Both wonderful characters... Great Lord of Chaos - 10/05/2010 12:49:44 AM 947 Views
They deserved to be deposed and stilled, I think ... Shishka - 10/05/2010 02:47:35 PM 1154 Views
"They"? fionwe1987 - 10/05/2010 05:16:54 PM 1056 Views
Good point ... Shishka - 10/05/2010 06:45:52 PM 1204 Views
Re: Good point ... fionwe1987 - 10/05/2010 06:49:19 PM 1071 Views
Re: Good point ... DomA - 11/05/2010 03:43:43 PM 1238 Views
Leanne was not an Overseer Nargs - 17/05/2010 02:40:45 AM 1068 Views
Re: "They"? DomA - 11/05/2010 02:53:23 PM 1119 Views
And she was eventually brought in on the secrets as well... Cannoli - 12/05/2010 04:38:52 AM 1077 Views
I don't know if I agree with this darius_sedai - 11/05/2010 03:19:20 PM 1091 Views
The thing is ... Shishka - 11/05/2010 09:06:15 PM 1030 Views
I get what you are saying, but the quote is from much earlier darius_sedai - 14/05/2010 03:14:17 PM 849 Views
I totally unagree... Milla - 17/05/2010 11:16:50 AM 1332 Views
I like Leane, and respected Siuan until RJ mauled her character RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/05/2010 05:55:08 PM 999 Views
She was probably the sacrificial lamb in place of Moiraine Sidious - 10/05/2010 06:25:39 PM 958 Views
The deck was certainly stacked against Siuan from the very beginning darius_sedai - 11/05/2010 02:44:05 PM 1045 Views
This is a main reason I hope Siuan and Leanne get their full strength restored darius_sedai - 11/05/2010 02:25:31 PM 1047 Views
I don't really agree Sidious - 11/05/2010 05:35:44 PM 995 Views
I see your point and like I said, I think there are certainly other resolutions to the story line darius_sedai - 11/05/2010 06:22:44 PM 985 Views
Re: I don't really agree DomA - 11/05/2010 06:28:48 PM 1110 Views
I hope so, as well. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/05/2010 05:31:36 PM 1026 Views
Re: Character discussion 2 : Siuan Sanche and Leane Sharif orius - 11/05/2010 05:06:51 PM 1537 Views
I'm still annoyed that Siuan is not going to face the consequences of lying about the Reds. Fanatic-Templar - 12/05/2010 05:18:47 AM 1050 Views
In Egwene's defense, it would be hypocritical of her to bring that up after profiting from it Cannoli - 12/05/2010 05:59:57 AM 1042 Views
Oh, I never expected Egwene to do something about this. Fanatic-Templar - 12/05/2010 06:12:35 AM 918 Views
Well she's off forging a relationship with the Asha'man - you know, useful stuff? *NM* Cannoli - 12/05/2010 06:39:04 AM 606 Views
Are you claiming that Pevara was the only woman in the entire Red Ajah to be offended by that lie? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 12/05/2010 07:15:40 AM 552 Views
The Reds aren't petty Sidious - 12/05/2010 04:52:50 PM 908 Views
Are you kidding? Fanatic-Templar - 12/05/2010 06:14:46 PM 1055 Views
Unless of course there is truth to it darius_sedai - 17/05/2010 01:50:27 PM 1044 Views
There is none. Fanatic-Templar - 17/05/2010 07:09:59 PM 1023 Views
Uhhh? fionwe1987 - 17/05/2010 08:45:15 PM 933 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 17/05/2010 11:08:05 PM 1068 Views
Re: ... Sidious - 18/05/2010 05:25:33 AM 1004 Views
Seriously, are you kidding? [EDIT] Fanatic-Templar - 18/05/2010 06:06:01 AM 1012 Views
*sigh* Sidious - 18/05/2010 12:30:43 PM 1082 Views
So, you're not kidding. Fanatic-Templar - 18/05/2010 09:12:27 PM 951 Views
Re: So, you're not kidding. Sidious - 18/05/2010 10:25:19 PM 988 Views
Re: So, you're not kidding. Fanatic-Templar - 19/05/2010 12:41:09 AM 1075 Views
So, Tsutama... fionwe1987 - 19/05/2010 05:29:56 PM 1142 Views
Ugh. Fanatic-Templar - 20/05/2010 04:05:43 AM 895 Views
WTF? fionwe1987 - 20/05/2010 05:25:42 PM 959 Views
F-T is right BlackAdder - 19/05/2010 12:32:33 AM 1064 Views
On the minority thing... fionwe1987 - 18/05/2010 04:26:15 PM 1044 Views
That's exactly the problem. Fanatic-Templar - 18/05/2010 08:51:45 PM 895 Views
There is no rewriting... fionwe1987 - 18/05/2010 08:57:50 PM 903 Views
Re: There is no rewriting... Fanatic-Templar - 18/05/2010 09:21:31 PM 1009 Views
Really do you have a quote supporting the fact that there has never been a FD supported by a Red? darius_sedai - 18/05/2010 09:39:31 PM 1042 Views
Of course..., I'll provide it as soon as you prove you're not a Nazi serial child rapist. Fanatic-Templar - 18/05/2010 10:06:23 PM 862 Views
why so pissy? darius_sedai - 19/05/2010 03:34:22 PM 1029 Views
Sorry. Fanatic-Templar - 20/05/2010 04:16:43 AM 953 Views
Re: Sorry. Sidious - 20/05/2010 08:19:13 AM 849 Views
Re: Sorry. Fanatic-Templar - 20/05/2010 08:33:54 AM 1084 Views
Re: Sorry. Sidious - 20/05/2010 01:26:47 PM 867 Views
Interesting. Fanatic-Templar - 20/05/2010 07:34:45 PM 954 Views
Re: Interesting. Sidious - 21/05/2010 05:07:07 AM 980 Views
Re: Interesting. Fanatic-Templar - 21/05/2010 06:28:05 AM 916 Views
LOL Sidious - 21/05/2010 02:50:29 PM 924 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 21/05/2010 08:23:08 PM 1110 Views
No worries! I was just caught off guard by your response... sorry for your stress! *NM* darius_sedai - 20/05/2010 10:04:35 PM 644 Views
There may be one explanation... fionwe1987 - 13/05/2010 10:04:46 PM 937 Views
That doesn't make sense. Fanatic-Templar - 13/05/2010 10:54:53 PM 1084 Views
it was about more than just male channelers darius_sedai - 18/05/2010 09:50:14 PM 1119 Views
Yes, that's true. Fanatic-Templar - 18/05/2010 10:07:22 PM 1100 Views
I'm also certain the majority of the Red had no clue/involvement darius_sedai - 20/05/2010 10:24:54 PM 979 Views
That's also true. Fanatic-Templar - 20/05/2010 10:29:11 PM 964 Views
Okay I'm leaving you alone ... you clearly don't want to continue darius_sedai - 20/05/2010 10:31:01 PM 970 Views
Why are they lumped together? Cannoli - 12/05/2010 05:53:51 AM 1246 Views
for practical purposes Sidious - 12/05/2010 04:50:48 PM 936 Views
AS shrunk after stilling; Siuan and Leane became huge. The Angry Druid - 12/05/2010 10:50:50 PM 965 Views
Re: AS shrunk after stilling; Siuan and Leane became huge. Watcher - 12/05/2010 11:05:17 PM 1077 Views
No, I don't think so Sidious - 13/05/2010 05:10:03 AM 903 Views
Let's just say we disagree. The Angry Druid - 17/05/2010 11:15:31 PM 1024 Views
Bah! fionwe1987 - 18/05/2010 04:33:40 PM 984 Views
Pfft Sidious - 18/05/2010 05:31:16 PM 1007 Views
You don't have to intimidate people to manipulate them. BlackAdder - 19/05/2010 12:46:02 AM 836 Views
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