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I don't really agree Sidious Send a noteboard - 11/05/2010 05:35:44 PM
who knows if it will happen, but IMO it would make the story arc complete, fall from power with an eventual return to grace so to speak. Especially since Siuan lost Egwene's trust in TGS.

Before you say it I don't think it's necessary for them to get their full strength back to make this possible, it would be just as possible if they ever actually came to accept the loss as something other than a loss ... which even in TGS Siuan has not achieved.


I would love them to get their full power back. Of course, if one thinks about it Nynaeve and Flinn should have traded this information and worked out the pitfalls several books ago. They've been around one another for a while.

I think sometimes it's important to realize that not all things can be mended once they've been broken. One of my major problems with the series is its saccharin resolution of plots i.e. everyone lives happily ever after. I think it was a mistake to revive Mat, Aviendha and Asmodean after Rahvin killed them, but that's me. Things that are broken forever leave a lasting impression. For instance, the taint can never be reversed in tainted men even though saidin is clean. It's a nice touch, and a constant reminder of the strike at Shayol Ghul. The same should be with Siuan ... to remind everyone about the BA and Elaida.
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Character discussion 2 : Siuan Sanche and Leane Sharif Sidious - 09/05/2010 06:01:33 PM 5358 Views
The "Shrinking of Siuan" after stilling destroyed my initial awe for the Amyrlin positition... Shannow - 09/05/2010 07:07:09 PM 1284 Views
yeah, but then again ... Velveti - 09/05/2010 09:05:36 PM 1015 Views
That's total nonsense... fionwe1987 - 10/05/2010 08:34:08 AM 1257 Views
No, THAT's total nonsense... Shannow - 10/05/2010 09:27:41 AM 1135 Views
He raised other issues too Sidious - 10/05/2010 11:04:52 AM 1127 Views
You seem to deal in bad analogies... fionwe1987 - 10/05/2010 05:14:47 PM 1140 Views
You've got an irritating manner about you. No wonder you find Aes Sedai so believable. Shannow - 10/05/2010 05:53:00 PM 994 Views
Hello Pot. I'm Kettle. fionwe1987 - 10/05/2010 06:41:58 PM 1014 Views
Hello Kettle. I'm Frying pan *NM* darius_sedai - 11/05/2010 03:43:20 PM 548 Views
Hello Frying pan. I'm Skillet. *NM* BlackAdder - 12/05/2010 11:50:33 PM 563 Views
Re: Hello Skillet, I'm a baking sheet can't we all have some cookies and get along? *NM* HyogaRott - 17/05/2010 05:17:24 PM 503 Views
I usually agree about his manner, but he's right here. Cannoli - 12/05/2010 04:24:28 AM 1110 Views
All of those people EARNED their positions by being the best, not a compromise candidate for office! Cannoli - 12/05/2010 04:36:36 AM 1198 Views
Re: No, THAT's total nonsense... lyringlas - 19/05/2010 04:39:07 PM 1042 Views
Re: The "Shrinking of Siuan" after stilling destroyed my initial awe for the Amyrlin positition... Cannoli - 12/05/2010 04:23:07 AM 1099 Views
Re: The "Shrinking of Siuan" after stilling destroyed my initial awe for the Amyrlin positition... BlackAdder - 12/05/2010 06:33:37 AM 1031 Views
I think you're looking at it the wrong way. BlackAdder - 12/05/2010 06:32:00 AM 1048 Views
Both wonderful characters... Great Lord of Chaos - 10/05/2010 12:49:44 AM 958 Views
They deserved to be deposed and stilled, I think ... Shishka - 10/05/2010 02:47:35 PM 1166 Views
"They"? fionwe1987 - 10/05/2010 05:16:54 PM 1070 Views
Good point ... Shishka - 10/05/2010 06:45:52 PM 1224 Views
Re: Good point ... fionwe1987 - 10/05/2010 06:49:19 PM 1084 Views
Re: Good point ... DomA - 11/05/2010 03:43:43 PM 1254 Views
Leanne was not an Overseer Nargs - 17/05/2010 02:40:45 AM 1081 Views
Re: "They"? DomA - 11/05/2010 02:53:23 PM 1136 Views
And she was eventually brought in on the secrets as well... Cannoli - 12/05/2010 04:38:52 AM 1091 Views
I don't know if I agree with this darius_sedai - 11/05/2010 03:19:20 PM 1109 Views
The thing is ... Shishka - 11/05/2010 09:06:15 PM 1044 Views
I get what you are saying, but the quote is from much earlier darius_sedai - 14/05/2010 03:14:17 PM 861 Views
I totally unagree... Milla - 17/05/2010 11:16:50 AM 1344 Views
I like Leane, and respected Siuan until RJ mauled her character RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/05/2010 05:55:08 PM 1016 Views
She was probably the sacrificial lamb in place of Moiraine Sidious - 10/05/2010 06:25:39 PM 973 Views
The deck was certainly stacked against Siuan from the very beginning darius_sedai - 11/05/2010 02:44:05 PM 1058 Views
This is a main reason I hope Siuan and Leanne get their full strength restored darius_sedai - 11/05/2010 02:25:31 PM 1059 Views
I don't really agree Sidious - 11/05/2010 05:35:44 PM 1011 Views
I see your point and like I said, I think there are certainly other resolutions to the story line darius_sedai - 11/05/2010 06:22:44 PM 1005 Views
Re: I don't really agree DomA - 11/05/2010 06:28:48 PM 1122 Views
I hope so, as well. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/05/2010 05:31:36 PM 1041 Views
Re: Character discussion 2 : Siuan Sanche and Leane Sharif orius - 11/05/2010 05:06:51 PM 1600 Views
I'm still annoyed that Siuan is not going to face the consequences of lying about the Reds. Fanatic-Templar - 12/05/2010 05:18:47 AM 1066 Views
In Egwene's defense, it would be hypocritical of her to bring that up after profiting from it Cannoli - 12/05/2010 05:59:57 AM 1053 Views
Oh, I never expected Egwene to do something about this. Fanatic-Templar - 12/05/2010 06:12:35 AM 934 Views
Well she's off forging a relationship with the Asha'man - you know, useful stuff? *NM* Cannoli - 12/05/2010 06:39:04 AM 613 Views
Are you claiming that Pevara was the only woman in the entire Red Ajah to be offended by that lie? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 12/05/2010 07:15:40 AM 558 Views
The Reds aren't petty Sidious - 12/05/2010 04:52:50 PM 919 Views
Are you kidding? Fanatic-Templar - 12/05/2010 06:14:46 PM 1079 Views
Unless of course there is truth to it darius_sedai - 17/05/2010 01:50:27 PM 1061 Views
There is none. Fanatic-Templar - 17/05/2010 07:09:59 PM 1037 Views
Uhhh? fionwe1987 - 17/05/2010 08:45:15 PM 945 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 17/05/2010 11:08:05 PM 1085 Views
Re: ... Sidious - 18/05/2010 05:25:33 AM 1019 Views
Seriously, are you kidding? [EDIT] Fanatic-Templar - 18/05/2010 06:06:01 AM 1026 Views
*sigh* Sidious - 18/05/2010 12:30:43 PM 1098 Views
So, you're not kidding. Fanatic-Templar - 18/05/2010 09:12:27 PM 964 Views
Re: So, you're not kidding. Sidious - 18/05/2010 10:25:19 PM 996 Views
Re: So, you're not kidding. Fanatic-Templar - 19/05/2010 12:41:09 AM 1088 Views
So, Tsutama... fionwe1987 - 19/05/2010 05:29:56 PM 1162 Views
Ugh. Fanatic-Templar - 20/05/2010 04:05:43 AM 909 Views
WTF? fionwe1987 - 20/05/2010 05:25:42 PM 976 Views
F-T is right BlackAdder - 19/05/2010 12:32:33 AM 1078 Views
On the minority thing... fionwe1987 - 18/05/2010 04:26:15 PM 1053 Views
That's exactly the problem. Fanatic-Templar - 18/05/2010 08:51:45 PM 910 Views
There is no rewriting... fionwe1987 - 18/05/2010 08:57:50 PM 914 Views
Re: There is no rewriting... Fanatic-Templar - 18/05/2010 09:21:31 PM 1021 Views
Really do you have a quote supporting the fact that there has never been a FD supported by a Red? darius_sedai - 18/05/2010 09:39:31 PM 1063 Views
Of course..., I'll provide it as soon as you prove you're not a Nazi serial child rapist. Fanatic-Templar - 18/05/2010 10:06:23 PM 872 Views
why so pissy? darius_sedai - 19/05/2010 03:34:22 PM 1047 Views
Sorry. Fanatic-Templar - 20/05/2010 04:16:43 AM 970 Views
Re: Sorry. Sidious - 20/05/2010 08:19:13 AM 860 Views
Re: Sorry. Fanatic-Templar - 20/05/2010 08:33:54 AM 1103 Views
Re: Sorry. Sidious - 20/05/2010 01:26:47 PM 883 Views
Interesting. Fanatic-Templar - 20/05/2010 07:34:45 PM 976 Views
Re: Interesting. Sidious - 21/05/2010 05:07:07 AM 991 Views
Re: Interesting. Fanatic-Templar - 21/05/2010 06:28:05 AM 926 Views
LOL Sidious - 21/05/2010 02:50:29 PM 936 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 21/05/2010 08:23:08 PM 1122 Views
No worries! I was just caught off guard by your response... sorry for your stress! *NM* darius_sedai - 20/05/2010 10:04:35 PM 650 Views
There may be one explanation... fionwe1987 - 13/05/2010 10:04:46 PM 953 Views
That doesn't make sense. Fanatic-Templar - 13/05/2010 10:54:53 PM 1098 Views
it was about more than just male channelers darius_sedai - 18/05/2010 09:50:14 PM 1145 Views
Yes, that's true. Fanatic-Templar - 18/05/2010 10:07:22 PM 1118 Views
I'm also certain the majority of the Red had no clue/involvement darius_sedai - 20/05/2010 10:24:54 PM 1004 Views
That's also true. Fanatic-Templar - 20/05/2010 10:29:11 PM 978 Views
Okay I'm leaving you alone ... you clearly don't want to continue darius_sedai - 20/05/2010 10:31:01 PM 983 Views
Why are they lumped together? Cannoli - 12/05/2010 05:53:51 AM 1261 Views
for practical purposes Sidious - 12/05/2010 04:50:48 PM 945 Views
AS shrunk after stilling; Siuan and Leane became huge. The Angry Druid - 12/05/2010 10:50:50 PM 978 Views
Re: AS shrunk after stilling; Siuan and Leane became huge. Watcher - 12/05/2010 11:05:17 PM 1092 Views
No, I don't think so Sidious - 13/05/2010 05:10:03 AM 913 Views
Let's just say we disagree. The Angry Druid - 17/05/2010 11:15:31 PM 1037 Views
Bah! fionwe1987 - 18/05/2010 04:33:40 PM 996 Views
Pfft Sidious - 18/05/2010 05:31:16 PM 1017 Views
You don't have to intimidate people to manipulate them. BlackAdder - 19/05/2010 12:46:02 AM 867 Views
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