If not, I suggest you reread The Gathering Storm. I am fairly confident that you will find that politicking and Ajah pride occupy a significantly greater portion of Aes Sedai priorities than Tarmon Gai'don, the Seanchan or the Black Tower, combined.
You are so clearly, massively and demonstrably wrong that it becomes difficult to properly express. In a series of thus far twelve books, the Tower division has been an important subplot for nine. I cannot believe that you have actually missed such a core fraction of the storyline, so I must assume you simply fail to comprehend what it is about. In short, Aes Sedai wage war against one another because of Aes Sedai's injured pride. If Tarmon Gai'don had been their priority, they would have waited until after the potential end of the world to settle their silly political squabble. That is what would have happened in the Borderlands according to Bashere, where fighting the Shadow is a priority. But that is evidently not the case with the White Tower. That you actually assert this to be the case is mind-blowing.
And really, there are numerous quotes that demonstrate that the Red Ajah does care about this issue, the most flagrant one being Pevara in The Extra Bit as I have referred before. I have no idea how you can expect me to actually swallow an outright fabrication like "The Red ajah clearly don't care about this".
EDIT: Okay, on further thought, I have come to a solution in which you didn't fail to notice or understand a significant portion of the series (which made no sense to me anyway, given that I know that you should be suitably aware of this), is it possible that you, like Cannoli was, are under the assumption that I expect something to happen about this in upcoming books? Because I obviously don't. The perfect timing for this to be addressed was in The Gathering Storm, and I was expressing frustration and incredulity that it was never brought up then, as displayed by my use of past tenses and reference to Elaida (who is now in Seanchan hands).
You are so clearly, massively and demonstrably wrong that it becomes difficult to properly express. In a series of thus far twelve books, the Tower division has been an important subplot for nine. I cannot believe that you have actually missed such a core fraction of the storyline, so I must assume you simply fail to comprehend what it is about. In short, Aes Sedai wage war against one another because of Aes Sedai's injured pride. If Tarmon Gai'don had been their priority, they would have waited until after the potential end of the world to settle their silly political squabble. That is what would have happened in the Borderlands according to Bashere, where fighting the Shadow is a priority. But that is evidently not the case with the White Tower. That you actually assert this to be the case is mind-blowing.
And really, there are numerous quotes that demonstrate that the Red Ajah does care about this issue, the most flagrant one being Pevara in The Extra Bit as I have referred before. I have no idea how you can expect me to actually swallow an outright fabrication like "The Red ajah clearly don't care about this".
EDIT: Okay, on further thought, I have come to a solution in which you didn't fail to notice or understand a significant portion of the series (which made no sense to me anyway, given that I know that you should be suitably aware of this), is it possible that you, like Cannoli was, are under the assumption that I expect something to happen about this in upcoming books? Because I obviously don't. The perfect timing for this to be addressed was in The Gathering Storm, and I was expressing frustration and incredulity that it was never brought up then, as displayed by my use of past tenses and reference to Elaida (who is now in Seanchan hands).
But they don't care. Seriously, where has anyone (including Egwene) mentioned that this problem is going to haunt them?
Despite being in the middle of a serious rebellion, the Reds themselves only care about getting a reign on the Black Tower. How can you possibly claim that the squabbling of the Hall is of greater concern to anyone compared to the three enormous events I mentioned. Most Aes Sedai have let sleeping dogs lie, including the Blues who were disbanded. This is the actual core of what's going on.
I'm also not deluded about the meaning of your post. I'm trying to tell you that you find it obvious and confusing that something should have happened about it already, but I'm telling you it DIDN'T because no one cares.
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Character discussion 2 : Siuan Sanche and Leane Sharif
- 09/05/2010 06:01:33 PM
5368 Views
The "Shrinking of Siuan" after stilling destroyed my initial awe for the Amyrlin positition...
- 09/05/2010 07:07:09 PM
1293 Views
That's total nonsense...
- 10/05/2010 08:34:08 AM
1260 Views
No, THAT's total nonsense...
- 10/05/2010 09:27:41 AM
1141 Views
You seem to deal in bad analogies...
- 10/05/2010 05:14:47 PM
1145 Views
You've got an irritating manner about you. No wonder you find Aes Sedai so believable.
- 10/05/2010 05:53:00 PM
999 Views
Hello Pot. I'm Kettle.
- 10/05/2010 06:41:58 PM
1023 Views
Hello Kettle. I'm Frying pan
*NM*
- 11/05/2010 03:43:20 PM
553 Views
*NM*
- 11/05/2010 03:43:20 PM
553 Views
Hello Frying pan. I'm Skillet. *NM*
- 12/05/2010 11:50:33 PM
566 Views
Re: Hello Skillet, I'm a baking sheet can't we all have some cookies and get along? *NM*
- 17/05/2010 05:17:24 PM
507 Views
All of those people EARNED their positions by being the best, not a compromise candidate for office!
- 12/05/2010 04:36:36 AM
1205 Views
Re: The "Shrinking of Siuan" after stilling destroyed my initial awe for the Amyrlin positition...
- 12/05/2010 04:23:07 AM
1108 Views
Re: The "Shrinking of Siuan" after stilling destroyed my initial awe for the Amyrlin positition...
- 12/05/2010 06:33:37 AM
1037 Views
They deserved to be deposed and stilled, I think ...
- 10/05/2010 02:47:35 PM
1174 Views
"They"?
- 10/05/2010 05:16:54 PM
1078 Views
Good point ...
- 10/05/2010 06:45:52 PM
1234 Views
I don't know if I agree with this
- 11/05/2010 03:19:20 PM
1116 Views
I like Leane, and respected Siuan until RJ mauled her character
- 10/05/2010 05:55:08 PM
1024 Views
She was probably the sacrificial lamb in place of Moiraine
- 10/05/2010 06:25:39 PM
980 Views
The deck was certainly stacked against Siuan from the very beginning
- 11/05/2010 02:44:05 PM
1065 Views
This is a main reason I hope Siuan and Leanne get their full strength restored
- 11/05/2010 02:25:31 PM
1064 Views
I don't really agree
- 11/05/2010 05:35:44 PM
1017 Views
I see your point and like I said, I think there are certainly other resolutions to the story line
- 11/05/2010 06:22:44 PM
1014 Views
I'm still annoyed that Siuan is not going to face the consequences of lying about the Reds.
- 12/05/2010 05:18:47 AM
1071 Views
In Egwene's defense, it would be hypocritical of her to bring that up after profiting from it
- 12/05/2010 05:59:57 AM
1063 Views
Oh, I never expected Egwene to do something about this.
- 12/05/2010 06:12:35 AM
940 Views
Well she's off forging a relationship with the Asha'man - you know, useful stuff? *NM*
- 12/05/2010 06:39:04 AM
617 Views
Are you claiming that Pevara was the only woman in the entire Red Ajah to be offended by that lie? *NM*
- 12/05/2010 07:15:40 AM
561 Views
The Reds aren't petty
- 12/05/2010 04:52:50 PM
927 Views
Are you kidding?
- 12/05/2010 06:14:46 PM
1090 Views
Unless of course there is truth to it
- 17/05/2010 01:50:27 PM
1069 Views
There is none.
- 17/05/2010 07:09:59 PM
1042 Views
Uhhh?
- 17/05/2010 08:45:15 PM
954 Views
...
- 17/05/2010 11:08:05 PM
1093 Views
Re: ...
- 18/05/2010 05:25:33 AM
1030 Views
Seriously, are you kidding? [EDIT]
- 18/05/2010 06:06:01 AM
1032 Views
*sigh*
- 18/05/2010 12:30:43 PM
1107 Views
So, you're not kidding.
- 18/05/2010 09:12:27 PM
971 Views
Re: So, you're not kidding.
- 18/05/2010 10:25:19 PM
1003 Views
Re: So, you're not kidding.
- 19/05/2010 12:41:09 AM
1095 Views
On the minority thing...
- 18/05/2010 04:26:15 PM
1061 Views
That's exactly the problem.
- 18/05/2010 08:51:45 PM
917 Views
Really do you have a quote supporting the fact that there has never been a FD supported by a Red?
- 18/05/2010 09:39:31 PM
1072 Views
Of course..., I'll provide it as soon as you prove you're not a Nazi serial child rapist.
- 18/05/2010 10:06:23 PM
879 Views
why so pissy?
- 19/05/2010 03:34:22 PM
1056 Views
Sorry.
- 20/05/2010 04:16:43 AM
977 Views
Re: Sorry.
- 20/05/2010 08:19:13 AM
865 Views
Re: Sorry.
- 20/05/2010 08:33:54 AM
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Re: Sorry.
- 20/05/2010 01:26:47 PM
891 Views
Interesting.
- 20/05/2010 07:34:45 PM
983 Views
Re: Interesting.
- 21/05/2010 05:07:07 AM
1000 Views
No worries! I was just caught off guard by your response... sorry for your stress! *NM*
- 20/05/2010 10:04:35 PM
655 Views
There may be one explanation...
- 13/05/2010 10:04:46 PM
960 Views
That doesn't make sense.
- 13/05/2010 10:54:53 PM
1105 Views
it was about more than just male channelers
- 18/05/2010 09:50:14 PM
1156 Views
Yes, that's true.
- 18/05/2010 10:07:22 PM
1129 Views
I'm also certain the majority of the Red had no clue/involvement
- 20/05/2010 10:24:54 PM
1016 Views
That's also true.
- 20/05/2010 10:29:11 PM
984 Views
Okay I'm leaving you alone ... you clearly don't want to continue
- 20/05/2010 10:31:01 PM
988 Views
- 20/05/2010 10:31:01 PM
988 Views
AS shrunk after stilling; Siuan and Leane became huge.
- 12/05/2010 10:50:50 PM
983 Views
No, I don't think so
- 13/05/2010 05:10:03 AM
918 Views
