This would happen occasionally in Rome. Even the highest echelon of society could be demoted quite rapidly to the position of a gladiator or house slave, depending on the circumstances. Once you were there, you were not given special treatment. In societies where hierarchy is everything, demotion and promotion happen rapidly. You either become forgotten, or used as an omen of what happens when a person fucks up royally.
Hell, it's still like this today- high school cliques, publishing societies, politics, beauty pageants, celebrity status? You can go from being one of the most influential and respected members of a group/guild to a street sweeper with the spreading of one rumour. Tiger Woods, anyone? Whitney Houston (well, she was a crackhead...)? Various governors have had their careers destroyed because of adultery. It doesn't even matter, past a certain point, what good deeds they might have accomplished, society is (in large part) a here and now entity. Sure, in 100 years or so when a history book comes out, they might remember Person A for their accomplishments, but that is only after popular opinion has subsided (died, literally) and the information can be analyzed without the plebeian shadow of judgment.
Hell, it's still like this today- high school cliques, publishing societies, politics, beauty pageants, celebrity status? You can go from being one of the most influential and respected members of a group/guild to a street sweeper with the spreading of one rumour. Tiger Woods, anyone? Whitney Houston (well, she was a crackhead...)? Various governors have had their careers destroyed because of adultery. It doesn't even matter, past a certain point, what good deeds they might have accomplished, society is (in large part) a here and now entity. Sure, in 100 years or so when a history book comes out, they might remember Person A for their accomplishments, but that is only after popular opinion has subsided (died, literally) and the information can be analyzed without the plebeian shadow of judgment.
Character discussion 2 : Siuan Sanche and Leane Sharif
09/05/2010 06:01:33 PM
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The "Shrinking of Siuan" after stilling destroyed my initial awe for the Amyrlin positition...
09/05/2010 07:07:09 PM
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That's total nonsense...
10/05/2010 08:34:08 AM
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No, THAT's total nonsense...
10/05/2010 09:27:41 AM
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You seem to deal in bad analogies...
10/05/2010 05:14:47 PM
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You've got an irritating manner about you. No wonder you find Aes Sedai so believable.
10/05/2010 05:53:00 PM
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Hello Pot. I'm Kettle.
10/05/2010 06:41:58 PM
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Hello Kettle. I'm Frying pan
*NM*
11/05/2010 03:43:20 PM
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Hello Frying pan. I'm Skillet. *NM*
12/05/2010 11:50:33 PM
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Re: Hello Skillet, I'm a baking sheet can't we all have some cookies and get along? *NM*
17/05/2010 05:17:24 PM
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All of those people EARNED their positions by being the best, not a compromise candidate for office!
12/05/2010 04:36:36 AM
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Re: No, THAT's total nonsense...
19/05/2010 04:39:07 PM
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Re: The "Shrinking of Siuan" after stilling destroyed my initial awe for the Amyrlin positition...
12/05/2010 04:23:07 AM
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Re: The "Shrinking of Siuan" after stilling destroyed my initial awe for the Amyrlin positition...
12/05/2010 06:33:37 AM
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They deserved to be deposed and stilled, I think ...
10/05/2010 02:47:35 PM
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"They"?
10/05/2010 05:16:54 PM
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Good point ...
10/05/2010 06:45:52 PM
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I don't know if I agree with this
11/05/2010 03:19:20 PM
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I like Leane, and respected Siuan until RJ mauled her character
10/05/2010 05:55:08 PM
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She was probably the sacrificial lamb in place of Moiraine
10/05/2010 06:25:39 PM
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The deck was certainly stacked against Siuan from the very beginning
11/05/2010 02:44:05 PM
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This is a main reason I hope Siuan and Leanne get their full strength restored
11/05/2010 02:25:31 PM
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I don't really agree
11/05/2010 05:35:44 PM
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I see your point and like I said, I think there are certainly other resolutions to the story line
11/05/2010 06:22:44 PM
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I'm still annoyed that Siuan is not going to face the consequences of lying about the Reds.
12/05/2010 05:18:47 AM
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In Egwene's defense, it would be hypocritical of her to bring that up after profiting from it
12/05/2010 05:59:57 AM
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Oh, I never expected Egwene to do something about this.
12/05/2010 06:12:35 AM
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Well she's off forging a relationship with the Asha'man - you know, useful stuff? *NM*
12/05/2010 06:39:04 AM
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Are you claiming that Pevara was the only woman in the entire Red Ajah to be offended by that lie? *NM*
12/05/2010 07:15:40 AM
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The Reds aren't petty
12/05/2010 04:52:50 PM
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Are you kidding?
12/05/2010 06:14:46 PM
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Unless of course there is truth to it
17/05/2010 01:50:27 PM
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There is none.
17/05/2010 07:09:59 PM
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Uhhh?
17/05/2010 08:45:15 PM
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...
17/05/2010 11:08:05 PM
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Re: ...
18/05/2010 05:25:33 AM
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Seriously, are you kidding? [EDIT]
18/05/2010 06:06:01 AM
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*sigh*
18/05/2010 12:30:43 PM
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So, you're not kidding.
18/05/2010 09:12:27 PM
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Re: So, you're not kidding.
18/05/2010 10:25:19 PM
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Re: So, you're not kidding.
19/05/2010 12:41:09 AM
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On the minority thing...
18/05/2010 04:26:15 PM
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That's exactly the problem.
18/05/2010 08:51:45 PM
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Really do you have a quote supporting the fact that there has never been a FD supported by a Red?
18/05/2010 09:39:31 PM
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Of course..., I'll provide it as soon as you prove you're not a Nazi serial child rapist.
18/05/2010 10:06:23 PM
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why so pissy?
19/05/2010 03:34:22 PM
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Sorry.
20/05/2010 04:16:43 AM
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Re: Sorry.
20/05/2010 08:19:13 AM
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Re: Sorry.
20/05/2010 08:33:54 AM
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Re: Sorry.
20/05/2010 01:26:47 PM
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Interesting.
20/05/2010 07:34:45 PM
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Re: Interesting.
21/05/2010 05:07:07 AM
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No worries! I was just caught off guard by your response... sorry for your stress! *NM*
20/05/2010 10:04:35 PM
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There may be one explanation...
13/05/2010 10:04:46 PM
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That doesn't make sense.
13/05/2010 10:54:53 PM
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it was about more than just male channelers
18/05/2010 09:50:14 PM
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Yes, that's true.
18/05/2010 10:07:22 PM
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I'm also certain the majority of the Red had no clue/involvement
20/05/2010 10:24:54 PM
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That's also true.
20/05/2010 10:29:11 PM
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Okay I'm leaving you alone ... you clearly don't want to continue
20/05/2010 10:31:01 PM
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AS shrunk after stilling; Siuan and Leane became huge.
12/05/2010 10:50:50 PM
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No, I don't think so
13/05/2010 05:10:03 AM
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