Active Users:493 Time:02/05/2025 07:44:30 PM
Back to Messageboard Post New Thread Search Help Stats Rules
Re: Huh? randfandom Send a noteboard - 15/06/2010 08:31:17 PM

A reread of tFoH may be in order, then. LAnfear almost shields Rand, and is stopped only because he cuts her weaves. Rand is unable to believe she is so strong.


"Almost" does not count. She was not able to shield him while he was holding Saidin, that's my point.

And we know he was stronger now than he was then, not to mention more knowledgable - in particular at how to break shields...

randfandom
Reply to message
No three women could block him from the Source... Logain - 15/06/2010 06:52:17 PM 2054 Views
I think that is total BS, since the books have proved otherwise more than once... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 07:22:16 PM 1133 Views
I think he means that it would take three such women to smother him Sidious - 15/06/2010 07:45:03 PM 1205 Views
Ahhh... I can kind of agree with that... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:05:46 PM 1274 Views
Yes, that is what he meant. Another interesting twist... Logain - 16/06/2010 01:34:18 AM 1242 Views
Agreed. Good analysis. Shannow - 16/06/2010 07:48:36 AM 1215 Views
Re: I think that is total BS, since the books have proved otherwise more than once... randfandom - 15/06/2010 08:17:47 PM 1152 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:19:21 PM 1254 Views
Re: Huh? randfandom - 15/06/2010 08:31:17 PM 1083 Views
fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:43:12 PM 1163 Views
Re: Code_Man65 - 15/06/2010 08:47:05 PM 990 Views
No, this is before. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:49:13 PM 1059 Views
Well that's a different quote from the one you used before, and this one shows Lanfear not succeedin Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:52:00 PM 1065 Views
I never used a quote before. And there's no quote where Lanfear's shield is not succeeding. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:52:28 PM 937 Views
Simple answer to settle it: Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:00:22 PM 950 Views
So Talaan is God? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:04:44 PM 1123 Views
It Rand had half Lews Therin's skill at the time, she would stand no chance..SKILL was her advantage Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:08:41 PM 1059 Views
Skill has nothing to do with how strong a person is. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:11:13 PM 1042 Views
So? Sidious - 15/06/2010 09:15:01 PM 1034 Views
Nope, YOU said he was talking about smothering him, whatever that's supposed to mean... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:26:53 PM 997 Views
Oh My God! That's such utter tripe... EDIT... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:30:29 PM 1083 Views
That's exactly how I understood you. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:30:42 PM 927 Views
You do know that this was AFTER Lanfear had picked up the bracelet angreal, right? Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:49:47 PM 1043 Views
It was before... both of them start using an angreal after this. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:52:02 PM 960 Views
Nope. 6 Aes Sedai couldn't take Raolain Darksbane or Yurian Stonebow...Semirhage = 3 Aes Sedai Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:26:21 PM 997 Views
Lanfear can do it alone Sidious - 15/06/2010 08:45:09 PM 1008 Views
She ATTEMPTS to cut him off, when he is not at full strength or full training yet... Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:55:39 PM 966 Views
Plus, Rand was splitting his flows, IIRC. Meaning he wasn't 100% one-on-one with her. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 08:57:35 PM 1005 Views
She was splitting her flows too... she was slicing his weaves of Air. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:59:00 PM 1023 Views
Bah! fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:58:26 PM 1005 Views
I repeat: You cannot shield someone unless you are significantly stronger than they are... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:02:55 PM 944 Views
Explain Talaan shielding Nynaeve then. Or the two BA shielding her. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:05:21 PM 1931 Views
It becomes a battle of skill then... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:09:42 PM 1116 Views
BUT... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:12:47 PM 1034 Views
Then by your own definition you do not have to be significantly stronger to shield someone darius_sedai - 15/06/2010 11:28:44 PM 993 Views
Re: "he would have had no need to cut her weaves" Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:03:39 PM 961 Views
No. There's a difference. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:07:09 PM 1143 Views
Oh come on... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:48:56 PM 1158 Views
I know you are not that ignorant... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:07:02 PM 940 Views
But that isn't true... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:10:37 PM 992 Views
Let me spell it out for you... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:18:04 PM 988 Views
Re: Let me spell it out for you... Sidious - 15/06/2010 09:21:02 PM 976 Views
Don't put words in my, or Lews Therin's, mouth... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:33:50 PM 1129 Views
??? darius_sedai - 15/06/2010 10:43:28 PM 1137 Views
+1. It ridiculous comparison. Rand even didn't know how to shield a woman. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:22:22 PM 994 Views
Now that's a ridiculous comparison Sidious - 15/06/2010 09:24:45 PM 1113 Views
Exactly! fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:28:20 PM 1128 Views
Touchy point, heh? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:28:47 PM 1064 Views
Then how come Lanfear never died? We know she made attempts to capture him. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:31:20 PM 1055 Views
Whom? LTT? Can you elaborate? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:33:25 PM 1086 Views
If you wish... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:34:38 PM 838 Views
Re: If you wish... Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:36:30 PM 857 Views
Whyever not? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:39:22 PM 930 Views
Re: Whyever not? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:41:22 PM 811 Views
Even in that situation fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:43:04 PM 1101 Views
Re: Even in that situation Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:47:36 PM 1090 Views
Okay... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:59:36 PM 1032 Views
Re: Okay... Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 10:39:01 PM 1002 Views
So, if it doesn't agree with your view, its fuzzy, even when that is what the books say? *NM* fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 10:42:48 PM 581 Views
What? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 10:45:16 PM 947 Views
If we use your interpretation of the statements. *NM* fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 10:49:21 PM 489 Views
Re: If we use your interpretation of the statements. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 10:54:48 PM 874 Views
Okay, here's what I think you're saying... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 11:00:19 PM 1047 Views
Re: Okay, here's what I think you're saying... Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 11:10:57 PM 1005 Views
Sorry for the mixup... BUT... fionwe1987 - 16/06/2010 12:28:31 AM 1060 Views
Hehehe! Classic. Maybe his hands were full of her...err..Globes of Fire... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:47:35 PM 950 Views
I cannot believe you're so obtuse... or then again, I can. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:26:04 PM 1081 Views
About how strong you have to be to shield someone... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:14:31 PM 815 Views
It's like women's tennis. Put the best up against a middling men's tennis player and they lose. *NM* Tom - 16/06/2010 12:18:06 AM 415 Views
Re: No three women could block him from the Source... Underwood - 16/06/2010 04:00:00 PM 925 Views
+1 Skeeve the Great - 16/06/2010 05:54:51 PM 1006 Views
darius_sedai - 16/06/2010 08:48:39 PM 1199 Views
Re: Skeeve the Great - 16/06/2010 08:56:31 PM 863 Views
indeed you have darius_sedai - 16/06/2010 09:34:22 PM 1115 Views
Bad analogy... fionwe1987 - 17/06/2010 04:23:31 AM 908 Views
Uh... Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:08:01 AM 948 Views
I disagree. LordPerrin - 16/06/2010 04:03:52 PM 1088 Views
That's wrong. Rand said 2 AS + Moghedien could threaten him Logain - 16/06/2010 05:17:33 PM 1064 Views
Huh. I forgot about that. LordPerrin - 17/06/2010 04:29:38 PM 1151 Views
go back a few posts... Kieran - 17/06/2010 03:41:42 AM 994 Views
yet Nynaeve and Talaan can shield one another darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:57:09 AM 991 Views
I'd like to think Egwene, Elayne and Aviendha could RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/06/2010 04:19:22 PM 922 Views
Agreed darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:59:39 PM 821 Views
I don't think there's any theme Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:25:52 PM 1127 Views
I don't think they are meant to controll him in someway darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:21:09 PM 988 Views
They have a separate trinity. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/06/2010 06:51:27 PM 1004 Views
They might be able to, but then they are not 3 women of <b>average AS</b> strength Logain - 17/06/2010 07:10:14 PM 978 Views
They would be far more than 3 average AS darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:07:30 PM 993 Views
No, that's not right either. Lews Therin Telamon - 18/06/2010 12:37:37 AM 1030 Views
I disagree darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 06:07:10 AM 1127 Views
Another related quote Skeeve the Great - 18/06/2010 07:49:33 PM 976 Views
well, in the same book about 5 minutes after Lanfear almost kicks Rands ass darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 08:11:49 PM 1029 Views
Back to Messageboard Post New Thread Search Help Stats Rules

Reply to Message

Block Quote Paragraph Quote
Formatting
Smiley Codes