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Re: "he would have had no need to cut her weaves" Skeeve the Great Send a noteboard - 15/06/2010 09:03:39 PM
In my books, if you can't shield someone (because the other one is so strong, or because your weave is so weak it can be cut, or anything else) it means you can't shield someone. Period.
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No three women could block him from the Source... Logain - 15/06/2010 06:52:17 PM 2281 Views
I think that is total BS, since the books have proved otherwise more than once... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 07:22:16 PM 1356 Views
I think he means that it would take three such women to smother him Sidious - 15/06/2010 07:45:03 PM 1435 Views
Ahhh... I can kind of agree with that... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:05:46 PM 1498 Views
Yes, that is what he meant. Another interesting twist... Logain - 16/06/2010 01:34:18 AM 1539 Views
Agreed. Good analysis. Shannow - 16/06/2010 07:48:36 AM 1427 Views
Re: I think that is total BS, since the books have proved otherwise more than once... randfandom - 15/06/2010 08:17:47 PM 1373 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:19:21 PM 1467 Views
Re: Huh? randfandom - 15/06/2010 08:31:17 PM 1292 Views
fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:43:12 PM 1357 Views
Re: Code_Man65 - 15/06/2010 08:47:05 PM 1209 Views
No, this is before. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:49:13 PM 1292 Views
Well that's a different quote from the one you used before, and this one shows Lanfear not succeedin Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:52:00 PM 1271 Views
I never used a quote before. And there's no quote where Lanfear's shield is not succeeding. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:52:28 PM 1162 Views
Simple answer to settle it: Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:00:22 PM 1205 Views
So Talaan is God? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:04:44 PM 1364 Views
It Rand had half Lews Therin's skill at the time, she would stand no chance..SKILL was her advantage Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:08:41 PM 1272 Views
Skill has nothing to do with how strong a person is. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:11:13 PM 1240 Views
So? Sidious - 15/06/2010 09:15:01 PM 1227 Views
Nope, YOU said he was talking about smothering him, whatever that's supposed to mean... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:26:53 PM 1233 Views
Oh My God! That's such utter tripe... EDIT... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:30:29 PM 1274 Views
That's exactly how I understood you. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:30:42 PM 1175 Views
You do know that this was AFTER Lanfear had picked up the bracelet angreal, right? Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:49:47 PM 1292 Views
It was before... both of them start using an angreal after this. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:52:02 PM 1175 Views
Nope. 6 Aes Sedai couldn't take Raolain Darksbane or Yurian Stonebow...Semirhage = 3 Aes Sedai Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:26:21 PM 1253 Views
Lanfear can do it alone Sidious - 15/06/2010 08:45:09 PM 1226 Views
She ATTEMPTS to cut him off, when he is not at full strength or full training yet... Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:55:39 PM 1171 Views
Plus, Rand was splitting his flows, IIRC. Meaning he wasn't 100% one-on-one with her. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 08:57:35 PM 1243 Views
She was splitting her flows too... she was slicing his weaves of Air. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:59:00 PM 1237 Views
Bah! fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:58:26 PM 1249 Views
I repeat: You cannot shield someone unless you are significantly stronger than they are... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:02:55 PM 1164 Views
Explain Talaan shielding Nynaeve then. Or the two BA shielding her. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:05:21 PM 2146 Views
It becomes a battle of skill then... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:09:42 PM 1331 Views
BUT... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:12:47 PM 1222 Views
Then by your own definition you do not have to be significantly stronger to shield someone darius_sedai - 15/06/2010 11:28:44 PM 1203 Views
Re: "he would have had no need to cut her weaves" Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:03:39 PM 1170 Views
No. There's a difference. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:07:09 PM 1355 Views
Oh come on... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:48:56 PM 1352 Views
I know you are not that ignorant... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:07:02 PM 1161 Views
But that isn't true... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:10:37 PM 1190 Views
Let me spell it out for you... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:18:04 PM 1227 Views
Re: Let me spell it out for you... Sidious - 15/06/2010 09:21:02 PM 1230 Views
Don't put words in my, or Lews Therin's, mouth... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:33:50 PM 1376 Views
??? darius_sedai - 15/06/2010 10:43:28 PM 1383 Views
+1. It ridiculous comparison. Rand even didn't know how to shield a woman. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:22:22 PM 1213 Views
Now that's a ridiculous comparison Sidious - 15/06/2010 09:24:45 PM 1336 Views
Exactly! fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:28:20 PM 1347 Views
Touchy point, heh? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:28:47 PM 1264 Views
Then how come Lanfear never died? We know she made attempts to capture him. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:31:20 PM 1335 Views
Whom? LTT? Can you elaborate? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:33:25 PM 1273 Views
If you wish... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:34:38 PM 1045 Views
Re: If you wish... Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:36:30 PM 1044 Views
Whyever not? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:39:22 PM 1140 Views
Re: Whyever not? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:41:22 PM 1026 Views
Even in that situation fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:43:04 PM 1314 Views
Re: Even in that situation Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:47:36 PM 1296 Views
Okay... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:59:36 PM 1233 Views
Re: Okay... Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 10:39:01 PM 1198 Views
So, if it doesn't agree with your view, its fuzzy, even when that is what the books say? *NM* fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 10:42:48 PM 680 Views
What? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 10:45:16 PM 1166 Views
If we use your interpretation of the statements. *NM* fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 10:49:21 PM 580 Views
Re: If we use your interpretation of the statements. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 10:54:48 PM 1089 Views
Okay, here's what I think you're saying... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 11:00:19 PM 1257 Views
Re: Okay, here's what I think you're saying... Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 11:10:57 PM 1202 Views
Sorry for the mixup... BUT... fionwe1987 - 16/06/2010 12:28:31 AM 1248 Views
Hehehe! Classic. Maybe his hands were full of her...err..Globes of Fire... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:47:35 PM 1164 Views
I cannot believe you're so obtuse... or then again, I can. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:26:04 PM 1278 Views
About how strong you have to be to shield someone... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:14:31 PM 1070 Views
It's like women's tennis. Put the best up against a middling men's tennis player and they lose. *NM* Tom - 16/06/2010 12:18:06 AM 514 Views
Re: No three women could block him from the Source... Underwood - 16/06/2010 04:00:00 PM 1135 Views
+1 Skeeve the Great - 16/06/2010 05:54:51 PM 1217 Views
darius_sedai - 16/06/2010 08:48:39 PM 1446 Views
Re: Skeeve the Great - 16/06/2010 08:56:31 PM 1083 Views
indeed you have darius_sedai - 16/06/2010 09:34:22 PM 1318 Views
Bad analogy... fionwe1987 - 17/06/2010 04:23:31 AM 1122 Views
Uh... Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:08:01 AM 1147 Views
I disagree. LordPerrin - 16/06/2010 04:03:52 PM 1318 Views
That's wrong. Rand said 2 AS + Moghedien could threaten him Logain - 16/06/2010 05:17:33 PM 1279 Views
Huh. I forgot about that. LordPerrin - 17/06/2010 04:29:38 PM 1355 Views
go back a few posts... Kieran - 17/06/2010 03:41:42 AM 1190 Views
yet Nynaeve and Talaan can shield one another darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:57:09 AM 1211 Views
I'd like to think Egwene, Elayne and Aviendha could RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/06/2010 04:19:22 PM 1117 Views
Agreed darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:59:39 PM 1012 Views
I don't think there's any theme Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:25:52 PM 1366 Views
I don't think they are meant to controll him in someway darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:21:09 PM 1204 Views
They have a separate trinity. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/06/2010 06:51:27 PM 1207 Views
They might be able to, but then they are not 3 women of <b>average AS</b> strength Logain - 17/06/2010 07:10:14 PM 1194 Views
They would be far more than 3 average AS darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:07:30 PM 1198 Views
No, that's not right either. Lews Therin Telamon - 18/06/2010 12:37:37 AM 1244 Views
I disagree darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 06:07:10 AM 1327 Views
Another related quote Skeeve the Great - 18/06/2010 07:49:33 PM 1161 Views
well, in the same book about 5 minutes after Lanfear almost kicks Rands ass darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 08:11:49 PM 1249 Views
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