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About how strong you have to be to shield someone... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 15/06/2010 09:14:31 PM
Let us remember that you need to be much stronger than someone to be absolutely certain you can shield them. Someone as strong as you, or even slightly weaker, can shield you. Only, the shield wouldn't fall into place 100% of the time.
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No three women could block him from the Source... Logain - 15/06/2010 06:52:17 PM 2255 Views
I think that is total BS, since the books have proved otherwise more than once... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 07:22:16 PM 1323 Views
I think he means that it would take three such women to smother him Sidious - 15/06/2010 07:45:03 PM 1406 Views
Ahhh... I can kind of agree with that... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:05:46 PM 1469 Views
Yes, that is what he meant. Another interesting twist... Logain - 16/06/2010 01:34:18 AM 1501 Views
Agreed. Good analysis. Shannow - 16/06/2010 07:48:36 AM 1395 Views
Re: I think that is total BS, since the books have proved otherwise more than once... randfandom - 15/06/2010 08:17:47 PM 1344 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:19:21 PM 1436 Views
Re: Huh? randfandom - 15/06/2010 08:31:17 PM 1266 Views
fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:43:12 PM 1330 Views
Re: Code_Man65 - 15/06/2010 08:47:05 PM 1178 Views
No, this is before. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:49:13 PM 1258 Views
Well that's a different quote from the one you used before, and this one shows Lanfear not succeedin Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:52:00 PM 1245 Views
I never used a quote before. And there's no quote where Lanfear's shield is not succeeding. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:52:28 PM 1123 Views
Simple answer to settle it: Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:00:22 PM 1181 Views
So Talaan is God? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:04:44 PM 1335 Views
It Rand had half Lews Therin's skill at the time, she would stand no chance..SKILL was her advantage Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:08:41 PM 1241 Views
Skill has nothing to do with how strong a person is. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:11:13 PM 1211 Views
So? Sidious - 15/06/2010 09:15:01 PM 1203 Views
Nope, YOU said he was talking about smothering him, whatever that's supposed to mean... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:26:53 PM 1205 Views
Oh My God! That's such utter tripe... EDIT... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:30:29 PM 1251 Views
That's exactly how I understood you. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:30:42 PM 1147 Views
You do know that this was AFTER Lanfear had picked up the bracelet angreal, right? Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:49:47 PM 1258 Views
It was before... both of them start using an angreal after this. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:52:02 PM 1151 Views
Nope. 6 Aes Sedai couldn't take Raolain Darksbane or Yurian Stonebow...Semirhage = 3 Aes Sedai Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:26:21 PM 1218 Views
Lanfear can do it alone Sidious - 15/06/2010 08:45:09 PM 1198 Views
She ATTEMPTS to cut him off, when he is not at full strength or full training yet... Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:55:39 PM 1144 Views
Plus, Rand was splitting his flows, IIRC. Meaning he wasn't 100% one-on-one with her. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 08:57:35 PM 1210 Views
She was splitting her flows too... she was slicing his weaves of Air. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:59:00 PM 1201 Views
Bah! fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:58:26 PM 1218 Views
I repeat: You cannot shield someone unless you are significantly stronger than they are... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:02:55 PM 1136 Views
Explain Talaan shielding Nynaeve then. Or the two BA shielding her. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:05:21 PM 2120 Views
It becomes a battle of skill then... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:09:42 PM 1299 Views
BUT... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:12:47 PM 1195 Views
Then by your own definition you do not have to be significantly stronger to shield someone darius_sedai - 15/06/2010 11:28:44 PM 1180 Views
Re: "he would have had no need to cut her weaves" Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:03:39 PM 1138 Views
No. There's a difference. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:07:09 PM 1329 Views
Oh come on... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:48:56 PM 1325 Views
I know you are not that ignorant... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:07:02 PM 1124 Views
But that isn't true... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:10:37 PM 1161 Views
Let me spell it out for you... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:18:04 PM 1199 Views
Re: Let me spell it out for you... Sidious - 15/06/2010 09:21:02 PM 1201 Views
Don't put words in my, or Lews Therin's, mouth... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:33:50 PM 1347 Views
??? darius_sedai - 15/06/2010 10:43:28 PM 1349 Views
+1. It ridiculous comparison. Rand even didn't know how to shield a woman. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:22:22 PM 1176 Views
Now that's a ridiculous comparison Sidious - 15/06/2010 09:24:45 PM 1304 Views
Exactly! fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:28:20 PM 1313 Views
Touchy point, heh? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:28:47 PM 1238 Views
Then how come Lanfear never died? We know she made attempts to capture him. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:31:20 PM 1301 Views
Whom? LTT? Can you elaborate? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:33:25 PM 1240 Views
If you wish... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:34:38 PM 1018 Views
Re: If you wish... Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:36:30 PM 1016 Views
Whyever not? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:39:22 PM 1106 Views
Re: Whyever not? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:41:22 PM 994 Views
Even in that situation fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:43:04 PM 1278 Views
Re: Even in that situation Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:47:36 PM 1265 Views
Okay... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:59:36 PM 1204 Views
Re: Okay... Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 10:39:01 PM 1175 Views
So, if it doesn't agree with your view, its fuzzy, even when that is what the books say? *NM* fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 10:42:48 PM 664 Views
What? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 10:45:16 PM 1134 Views
If we use your interpretation of the statements. *NM* fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 10:49:21 PM 569 Views
Re: If we use your interpretation of the statements. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 10:54:48 PM 1061 Views
Okay, here's what I think you're saying... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 11:00:19 PM 1225 Views
Re: Okay, here's what I think you're saying... Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 11:10:57 PM 1174 Views
Sorry for the mixup... BUT... fionwe1987 - 16/06/2010 12:28:31 AM 1223 Views
Hehehe! Classic. Maybe his hands were full of her...err..Globes of Fire... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:47:35 PM 1138 Views
I cannot believe you're so obtuse... or then again, I can. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:26:04 PM 1250 Views
About how strong you have to be to shield someone... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:14:31 PM 1038 Views
It's like women's tennis. Put the best up against a middling men's tennis player and they lose. *NM* Tom - 16/06/2010 12:18:06 AM 500 Views
Re: No three women could block him from the Source... Underwood - 16/06/2010 04:00:00 PM 1106 Views
+1 Skeeve the Great - 16/06/2010 05:54:51 PM 1181 Views
darius_sedai - 16/06/2010 08:48:39 PM 1423 Views
Re: Skeeve the Great - 16/06/2010 08:56:31 PM 1054 Views
indeed you have darius_sedai - 16/06/2010 09:34:22 PM 1280 Views
Bad analogy... fionwe1987 - 17/06/2010 04:23:31 AM 1089 Views
Uh... Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:08:01 AM 1122 Views
I disagree. LordPerrin - 16/06/2010 04:03:52 PM 1285 Views
That's wrong. Rand said 2 AS + Moghedien could threaten him Logain - 16/06/2010 05:17:33 PM 1248 Views
Huh. I forgot about that. LordPerrin - 17/06/2010 04:29:38 PM 1326 Views
go back a few posts... Kieran - 17/06/2010 03:41:42 AM 1160 Views
yet Nynaeve and Talaan can shield one another darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:57:09 AM 1178 Views
I'd like to think Egwene, Elayne and Aviendha could RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/06/2010 04:19:22 PM 1081 Views
Agreed darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:59:39 PM 981 Views
I don't think there's any theme Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:25:52 PM 1311 Views
I don't think they are meant to controll him in someway darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:21:09 PM 1168 Views
They have a separate trinity. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/06/2010 06:51:27 PM 1179 Views
They might be able to, but then they are not 3 women of <b>average AS</b> strength Logain - 17/06/2010 07:10:14 PM 1155 Views
They would be far more than 3 average AS darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:07:30 PM 1166 Views
No, that's not right either. Lews Therin Telamon - 18/06/2010 12:37:37 AM 1212 Views
I disagree darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 06:07:10 AM 1296 Views
Another related quote Skeeve the Great - 18/06/2010 07:49:33 PM 1130 Views
well, in the same book about 5 minutes after Lanfear almost kicks Rands ass darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 08:11:49 PM 1222 Views
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