Yes, because he did not know how to resist them. If you don't resist, then of course she can cut your connection. Just holding onto the Source means you leave yourself defenseless.
That isn't true at all. Verin and co. threw a shield at Graendal. Graendal did nothing, yet the shield bounced off. Verin and Alanna threw a shield at Rand in LoC. He did nothing, and the shield bounced off.
Of course six Aes Sedai can hold him. But it takes a LOT more to cut you off if you are already holding the Source. Come on, that's One Power 101. Even you know that.
Yes, but who said the six sisters against the False Dragons were trying to shield him? It was a battle, by all accounts, and not a shielding match.
Again, to shield someone who is already holding the Source, you must be MUCH stronger than they are. Something like 50% stronger, if the books are any indication. Was Rand sure that he is 50% stronger than 7 Aes Sedai, whose individual strengths he doesn't know, and who might or might not have angreal with them?
Was Talaan even .1% stronger than Nynaeve?
How was he to know.
Because he has an idea of how strong AS are from seeing how strong the strongest among them is?
If one of them was Moghedien, she would be dangerous enough. Maybe not to shield him, but very dangerous to confront.
She would be able to shield him. Unless he cut her shield.
The closer you are in strength, the more uncertain it becomes that you will be able to shield someone. If you are exactly equal, the chances of success are very slim. In fact, in Nynaeve's case, it was proven that although she was equal to Talaan, she was unable to shield her, and was in fact shielded herself because Talaan was more skilled.
So it became a battle of skill, which Nynaeve lost.
As for Verin and Graendal's cases. See above. Verin and Alanna's shield was hopelessly weaker than Rand's connection to the source. So much weaker that he did not even have to bother to resist it.
Same with Graendal and Verin's case. Graendal was channeling through an angreal and the thickness of her connection was either exceeded Verin's shield strength by too great a margin, or Verin's shield was of insufficient precision to slice through it.
We know Lanfear is very dexterous, and can therefore no doubt create shield with a much sharper "edge", meaning in effect that she can punch above her weight in strength.
But as I said before, if it was Lews Therin in front of her, instead of the untrained, ignorant Rand, she would have had no chance.
Ishamael could not even cut Lews Therin off from the source. How on earth could Lanfear hope to do it then?
No three women could block him from the Source...
- 15/06/2010 06:52:17 PM
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I think that is total BS, since the books have proved otherwise more than once...
- 15/06/2010 07:22:16 PM
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I think he means that it would take three such women to smother him
- 15/06/2010 07:45:03 PM
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Re: I think that is total BS, since the books have proved otherwise more than once...
- 15/06/2010 08:17:47 PM
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Huh?
- 15/06/2010 08:19:21 PM
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Re: Huh?
- 15/06/2010 08:31:17 PM
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- 15/06/2010 08:43:12 PM
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- 15/06/2010 08:43:12 PM
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Re:
- 15/06/2010 08:47:05 PM
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- 15/06/2010 08:47:05 PM
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No, this is before.
- 15/06/2010 08:49:13 PM
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Well that's a different quote from the one you used before, and this one shows Lanfear not succeedin
- 15/06/2010 08:52:00 PM
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I never used a quote before. And there's no quote where Lanfear's shield is not succeeding.
- 15/06/2010 08:52:28 PM
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Simple answer to settle it:
- 15/06/2010 09:00:22 PM
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So Talaan is God?
- 15/06/2010 09:04:44 PM
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It Rand had half Lews Therin's skill at the time, she would stand no chance..SKILL was her advantage
- 15/06/2010 09:08:41 PM
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So?
- 15/06/2010 09:15:01 PM
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Nope, YOU said he was talking about smothering him, whatever that's supposed to mean...
- 15/06/2010 09:26:53 PM
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You do know that this was AFTER Lanfear had picked up the bracelet angreal, right?
- 15/06/2010 08:49:47 PM
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It was before... both of them start using an angreal after this.
- 15/06/2010 08:52:02 PM
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Nope. 6 Aes Sedai couldn't take Raolain Darksbane or Yurian Stonebow...Semirhage = 3 Aes Sedai
- 15/06/2010 08:26:21 PM
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Lanfear can do it alone
- 15/06/2010 08:45:09 PM
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She ATTEMPTS to cut him off, when he is not at full strength or full training yet...
- 15/06/2010 08:55:39 PM
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Plus, Rand was splitting his flows, IIRC. Meaning he wasn't 100% one-on-one with her.
- 15/06/2010 08:57:35 PM
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She was splitting her flows too... she was slicing his weaves of Air.
- 15/06/2010 08:59:00 PM
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Bah!
- 15/06/2010 08:58:26 PM
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I repeat: You cannot shield someone unless you are significantly stronger than they are...
- 15/06/2010 09:02:55 PM
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Explain Talaan shielding Nynaeve then. Or the two BA shielding her.
- 15/06/2010 09:05:21 PM
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It becomes a battle of skill then...
- 15/06/2010 09:09:42 PM
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Then by your own definition you do not have to be significantly stronger to shield someone
- 15/06/2010 11:28:44 PM
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Oh come on...
- 15/06/2010 08:48:56 PM
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I know you are not that ignorant...
- 15/06/2010 09:07:02 PM
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But that isn't true...
- 15/06/2010 09:10:37 PM
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Let me spell it out for you...
- 15/06/2010 09:18:04 PM
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Re: Let me spell it out for you...
- 15/06/2010 09:21:02 PM
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+1. It ridiculous comparison. Rand even didn't know how to shield a woman.
- 15/06/2010 09:22:22 PM
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Now that's a ridiculous comparison
- 15/06/2010 09:24:45 PM
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Touchy point, heh?
- 15/06/2010 09:28:47 PM
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- 15/06/2010 09:28:47 PM
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Then how come Lanfear never died? We know she made attempts to capture him.
- 15/06/2010 09:31:20 PM
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Whom? LTT? Can you elaborate?
- 15/06/2010 09:33:25 PM
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If you wish...
- 15/06/2010 09:34:38 PM
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Re: If you wish...
- 15/06/2010 09:36:30 PM
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Whyever not?
- 15/06/2010 09:39:22 PM
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Re: Whyever not?
- 15/06/2010 09:41:22 PM
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Even in that situation
- 15/06/2010 09:43:04 PM
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Re: Even in that situation
- 15/06/2010 09:47:36 PM
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Okay...
- 15/06/2010 09:59:36 PM
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Re: Okay...
- 15/06/2010 10:39:01 PM
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So, if it doesn't agree with your view, its fuzzy, even when that is what the books say?
*NM*
- 15/06/2010 10:42:48 PM
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*NM*
- 15/06/2010 10:42:48 PM
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What?
- 15/06/2010 10:45:16 PM
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If we use your interpretation of the statements. *NM*
- 15/06/2010 10:49:21 PM
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Re: If we use your interpretation of the statements.
- 15/06/2010 10:54:48 PM
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Okay, here's what I think you're saying...
- 15/06/2010 11:00:19 PM
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Hehehe! Classic. Maybe his hands were full of her...err..Globes of Fire...
- 15/06/2010 09:47:35 PM
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It's like women's tennis. Put the best up against a middling men's tennis player and they lose. *NM*
- 16/06/2010 12:18:06 AM
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Re: No three women could block him from the Source...
- 16/06/2010 04:00:00 PM
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I disagree.
- 16/06/2010 04:03:52 PM
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I'd like to think Egwene, Elayne and Aviendha could
- 17/06/2010 04:19:22 PM
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Agreed
- 17/06/2010 05:59:39 PM
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They might be able to, but then they are not 3 women of <b>average AS</b> strength
- 17/06/2010 07:10:14 PM
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They would be far more than 3 average AS
- 17/06/2010 08:07:30 PM
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Another related quote
- 18/06/2010 07:49:33 PM
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well, in the same book about 5 minutes after Lanfear almost kicks Rands ass
- 18/06/2010 08:11:49 PM
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