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Cadsuane was brilliant in that scene. The Angry Druid Send a noteboard - 02/07/2010 12:41:06 AM
She robbed Semirhage of her mystique and reduced her to a level where the other AS could deal with her as a woman (albeit a powerful and dangerous one), not as some legend out of history.

How could you not love that scene?

One of my greatest fears for the series is that BS brings some of his ideas of the characters, which were formed when he was younger, out in his writing. I know he tries to avoid it, but his writing of, and distaste for, Cadsuane have me a bit worried.

Anyway, hopefully RJ set the boundaries well for most.
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Semirhage vs Cadsuane - in Sanderson's words... Shannow - 19/11/2009 09:58:19 PM 3191 Views
The two of you are pathetic Cannoli - 19/11/2009 10:09:34 PM 1669 Views
Your problem is... Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:21:40 PM 1587 Views
Well said. It takes something away from the story. *NM* Narg - 19/11/2009 10:34:41 PM 729 Views
No. Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:15:32 AM 1381 Views
And now he's not "blind" anymore beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:20:56 AM 1286 Views
*Cough* MoridinDemandredTaim *Cough* *NM* Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:16:14 PM 606 Views
*cough* philosopherguywhosdonenothingcrazyperson *cough* beetnemesis - 22/11/2009 05:19:20 PM 1384 Views
Well said. Compare her to, say, Mogheidan. beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:17:57 AM 1345 Views
True to a degree Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:26:20 AM 1289 Views
There's a little more to it as well Light in the Night - 20/11/2009 08:51:03 AM 1250 Views
You know, I agree BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 11:12:49 PM 1352 Views
But she gave us a clue as to how she might be broken. Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:17:04 AM 1179 Views
I would love to see tSR and tFoH from Moiraine's perspective beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:22:55 AM 1160 Views
I imagine it took A LOT of frustration and anger management. *NM* Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:27:13 AM 659 Views
I don't think Moiraine became meek at all MightyYT - 20/11/2009 11:06:05 AM 1173 Views
That's what I meant, actually beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:44:26 AM 1163 Views
I don't think Rand will do it, though BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:10:27 AM 1116 Views
Re: You know, I agree Evil_Monkey - 09/05/2010 09:08:58 PM 1270 Views
I agree with Cannoli completely. (Did I just say that?) Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 11:18:09 PM 1361 Views
And I agree with Rand al'Thor. Fanatic-Templar - 19/11/2009 11:35:55 PM 1206 Views
And I agree with Fanatic-Templar. Wotmaniac Reborn - 20/11/2009 10:40:26 PM 1260 Views
Ditto *NM* echooff - 21/06/2010 01:15:04 PM 586 Views
I didn't like it for the same reason I don't like the Aes Sedai much anymore beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 07:40:31 AM 1259 Views
WoT isn't pure fantasy - it's humans within a fantasy world Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:20:23 AM 1137 Views
Oh, totally- but humans can act in more than one way. "Real" humans can be terrifying, too! beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:33:53 AM 1229 Views
I'm pretty sure that AS are meant to be a parable for the government... Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:20:14 PM 1135 Views
And also BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:08:39 AM 1219 Views
Actually, it did, but it didn't care about him at all. Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:21:02 PM 1108 Views
Re: I didn't like it for the same reason I don't like the Aes Sedai much anymore p hart - 08/05/2010 12:46:31 AM 1265 Views
Re: The two of you are pathetic p hart - 08/05/2010 12:05:51 AM 1255 Views
personally, I loved the scene kcf - 19/11/2009 10:10:44 PM 1412 Views
Agreed. I thought it worked. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 10:40:04 PM 655 Views
Are you feeling all right? If you are, Cannoli is right, and you're pathetic. fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 10:18:54 PM 1337 Views
See my response to Cannoli. *NM* Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:25:15 PM 700 Views
That was barely a response... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2009 12:43:07 AM 1217 Views
There's always more than one way for a story to "logically" progress beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:07:44 AM 1200 Views
Re: That was barely a response... p hart - 08/05/2010 12:24:55 AM 1270 Views
Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:01:17 AM 1208 Views
On the other hand BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:13:54 AM 1190 Views
Re: Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:50:07 PM 1167 Views
Yeah, Semi never got much screentime beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:47:27 AM 1233 Views
Re: Yeah, Semi never got much screentime Fanatic-Templar - 21/11/2009 04:09:26 AM 1194 Views
Re: Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. p hart - 08/05/2010 01:17:07 AM 1227 Views
Oh, they're quite good at killing people. Fanatic-Templar - 08/05/2010 06:47:35 AM 1144 Views
Re: Oh, they're quite good at killing people. p hart - 09/05/2010 06:09:38 PM 1258 Views
Actually, it's why they're still alive. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 06:32:22 PM 1099 Views
Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. p hart - 21/06/2010 01:15:19 AM 1122 Views
Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. Fanatic-Templar - 21/06/2010 01:32:25 AM 1234 Views
Are they? Why are Mat, Perrin and the Wondergirls still alive? Lohikaarme - 13/05/2010 12:47:57 AM 1135 Views
Nobody's even tried to kill them since Ishamael died, until he gave the order again in KoD. Fanatic-Templar - 13/05/2010 01:13:02 AM 1118 Views
It'd be harder to kill them now as they have come into their own power p hart - 21/06/2010 01:18:31 AM 1093 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 21/06/2010 01:34:51 AM 1188 Views
If they're good at killing people Lohikaarme - 06/07/2010 10:00:41 PM 993 Views
I loved that scene - it's actually dog-eared because it's one of my favorites. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 19/11/2009 10:37:33 PM 1249 Views
exactly *NM* AgentOrange - 19/11/2009 11:06:48 PM 647 Views
Really liked her complaints about the food Wotmaniac Reborn - 20/11/2009 10:42:57 PM 1233 Views
I'd love to see Mat spanking Caddy as he did Joline Skeeve the Great - 19/11/2009 10:48:21 PM 1306 Views
I'd like to see that too . Fanatic-Templar - 19/11/2009 11:40:26 PM 1140 Views
I actually think Mat needs a spanking. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/11/2009 10:23:46 PM 644 Views
I had no problem with the spanking... vandevere - 19/11/2009 11:07:07 PM 1331 Views
Best news I've heard all day *NM* BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 11:09:49 PM 744 Views
Actually... what happened to Semirhage was BEAUTIFUL. Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 11:28:29 PM 1398 Views
I agree with your second half beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:27:07 AM 1138 Views
The Forsaken aren't lame, they just aren't that special AgentOrange - 20/11/2009 12:30:51 PM 1146 Views
Their lack of special-ness has made them become lame villians beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:50:50 AM 1154 Views
She is dead to me! Sandwich - 20/11/2009 12:25:42 AM 1064 Views
I agree with Cannoli and Fionwe's on the best way to handle Semirhage Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:17:41 AM 1105 Views
Book 14 you think Lord o' Salv - 20/11/2009 04:55:29 AM 1141 Views
So would you enjoy seeing Moridin pulled over Cadsuane's knee and spanked? Shannow - 20/11/2009 07:48:45 AM 1245 Views
You're upset about the spanking and have missed the reason for it. Sidious - 20/11/2009 03:05:50 PM 1275 Views
Don't avoid the question... Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:27:23 PM 1198 Views
I'm not avoiding anything, just pointing out how silly this post is Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:50:17 PM 1203 Views
Hehe... Shannow - 20/11/2009 05:25:56 PM 1215 Views
Re: Hehe... Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:44:06 AM 1223 Views
Re: I'm not avoiding anything, just pointing out how silly this post is p hart - 08/05/2010 01:07:13 AM 1269 Views
Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:36:36 PM 1094 Views
Hey now... imagine how Balthamel's fans feel BlackAdder - 21/11/2009 02:21:48 AM 1147 Views
I think Aginor was the worst. Fanatic-Templar - 21/11/2009 04:10:51 AM 1121 Views
Re: Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:26:53 AM 1153 Views
Re: You're upset about the spanking and have missed the reason for it. p hart - 08/05/2010 12:58:52 AM 8670 Views
The thing that bothers me is that you're right beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:10:44 AM 1142 Views
Except that Demandred is the one Darksider who knows about Elayne Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:30:26 PM 1220 Views
Re: Except that Demandred is the one Darksider who knows about Elayne Sidious - 22/11/2009 10:13:44 AM 1482 Views
He was dispatched 'fairly easily' because he was betrayed by Moridin . Fanatic-Templar - 22/11/2009 08:09:38 PM 1076 Views
I think it was an excellent look at just how pathetic most of the Forsaken are and why they sold out everynametaken - 20/11/2009 04:21:36 AM 1234 Views
The weird thing is, (or maybe not so weird), that I feel like she suffered the same way in tGS beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:36:45 AM 1242 Views
Re: I think it was an excellent look at just how pathetic most of the Forsaken are and p hart - 08/05/2010 12:13:20 AM 1173 Views
because thats what sadists are! nigelgoboom - 20/11/2009 04:03:31 PM 1486 Views
How many people p hart - 08/05/2010 12:30:17 AM 1189 Views
At least two. Kaldric - 10/05/2010 02:10:31 PM 1011 Views
Re: At least two. p hart - 21/06/2010 01:24:53 AM 1317 Views
Shame has traditionally been one of the greatest ways of enforcing public order Rurouni_Kenshin - 21/06/2010 02:55:54 AM 1143 Views
Re: Semirhage vs Cadsuane - in Sanderson's words... Demortae - 29/06/2010 10:29:51 PM 1374 Views
Cadsuane was brilliant in that scene. The Angry Druid - 02/07/2010 12:41:06 AM 1191 Views
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