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Cadsuane was brilliant in that scene. The Angry Druid Send a noteboard - 02/07/2010 12:41:06 AM
She robbed Semirhage of her mystique and reduced her to a level where the other AS could deal with her as a woman (albeit a powerful and dangerous one), not as some legend out of history.

How could you not love that scene?

One of my greatest fears for the series is that BS brings some of his ideas of the characters, which were formed when he was younger, out in his writing. I know he tries to avoid it, but his writing of, and distaste for, Cadsuane have me a bit worried.

Anyway, hopefully RJ set the boundaries well for most.
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Semirhage vs Cadsuane - in Sanderson's words... Shannow - 19/11/2009 09:58:19 PM 3156 Views
The two of you are pathetic Cannoli - 19/11/2009 10:09:34 PM 1639 Views
Your problem is... Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:21:40 PM 1557 Views
Well said. It takes something away from the story. *NM* Narg - 19/11/2009 10:34:41 PM 719 Views
No. Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:15:32 AM 1352 Views
And now he's not "blind" anymore beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:20:56 AM 1262 Views
*Cough* MoridinDemandredTaim *Cough* *NM* Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:16:14 PM 596 Views
*cough* philosopherguywhosdonenothingcrazyperson *cough* beetnemesis - 22/11/2009 05:19:20 PM 1359 Views
Well said. Compare her to, say, Mogheidan. beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:17:57 AM 1323 Views
True to a degree Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:26:20 AM 1263 Views
There's a little more to it as well Light in the Night - 20/11/2009 08:51:03 AM 1225 Views
You know, I agree BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 11:12:49 PM 1310 Views
But she gave us a clue as to how she might be broken. Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:17:04 AM 1160 Views
I would love to see tSR and tFoH from Moiraine's perspective beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:22:55 AM 1129 Views
I imagine it took A LOT of frustration and anger management. *NM* Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:27:13 AM 647 Views
I don't think Moiraine became meek at all MightyYT - 20/11/2009 11:06:05 AM 1144 Views
That's what I meant, actually beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:44:26 AM 1135 Views
I don't think Rand will do it, though BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:10:27 AM 1097 Views
Re: You know, I agree Evil_Monkey - 09/05/2010 09:08:58 PM 1244 Views
I agree with Cannoli completely. (Did I just say that?) Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 11:18:09 PM 1321 Views
And I agree with Rand al'Thor. Fanatic-Templar - 19/11/2009 11:35:55 PM 1169 Views
And I agree with Fanatic-Templar. Wotmaniac Reborn - 20/11/2009 10:40:26 PM 1225 Views
Ditto *NM* echooff - 21/06/2010 01:15:04 PM 575 Views
I didn't like it for the same reason I don't like the Aes Sedai much anymore beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 07:40:31 AM 1237 Views
WoT isn't pure fantasy - it's humans within a fantasy world Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:20:23 AM 1116 Views
Oh, totally- but humans can act in more than one way. "Real" humans can be terrifying, too! beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:33:53 AM 1204 Views
I'm pretty sure that AS are meant to be a parable for the government... Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:20:14 PM 1110 Views
And also BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:08:39 AM 1181 Views
Actually, it did, but it didn't care about him at all. Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:21:02 PM 1083 Views
Re: I didn't like it for the same reason I don't like the Aes Sedai much anymore p hart - 08/05/2010 12:46:31 AM 1234 Views
Re: The two of you are pathetic p hart - 08/05/2010 12:05:51 AM 1216 Views
personally, I loved the scene kcf - 19/11/2009 10:10:44 PM 1381 Views
Agreed. I thought it worked. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 10:40:04 PM 646 Views
Are you feeling all right? If you are, Cannoli is right, and you're pathetic. fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 10:18:54 PM 1305 Views
See my response to Cannoli. *NM* Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:25:15 PM 689 Views
That was barely a response... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2009 12:43:07 AM 1183 Views
There's always more than one way for a story to "logically" progress beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:07:44 AM 1174 Views
Re: That was barely a response... p hart - 08/05/2010 12:24:55 AM 1242 Views
Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:01:17 AM 1182 Views
On the other hand BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:13:54 AM 1167 Views
Re: Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:50:07 PM 1136 Views
Yeah, Semi never got much screentime beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:47:27 AM 1206 Views
Re: Yeah, Semi never got much screentime Fanatic-Templar - 21/11/2009 04:09:26 AM 1159 Views
Re: Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. p hart - 08/05/2010 01:17:07 AM 1200 Views
Oh, they're quite good at killing people. Fanatic-Templar - 08/05/2010 06:47:35 AM 1117 Views
Re: Oh, they're quite good at killing people. p hart - 09/05/2010 06:09:38 PM 1231 Views
Actually, it's why they're still alive. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 06:32:22 PM 1072 Views
Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. p hart - 21/06/2010 01:15:19 AM 1094 Views
Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. Fanatic-Templar - 21/06/2010 01:32:25 AM 1202 Views
Are they? Why are Mat, Perrin and the Wondergirls still alive? Lohikaarme - 13/05/2010 12:47:57 AM 1110 Views
Nobody's even tried to kill them since Ishamael died, until he gave the order again in KoD. Fanatic-Templar - 13/05/2010 01:13:02 AM 1091 Views
It'd be harder to kill them now as they have come into their own power p hart - 21/06/2010 01:18:31 AM 1067 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 21/06/2010 01:34:51 AM 1157 Views
If they're good at killing people Lohikaarme - 06/07/2010 10:00:41 PM 964 Views
I loved that scene - it's actually dog-eared because it's one of my favorites. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 19/11/2009 10:37:33 PM 1227 Views
exactly *NM* AgentOrange - 19/11/2009 11:06:48 PM 635 Views
Really liked her complaints about the food Wotmaniac Reborn - 20/11/2009 10:42:57 PM 1204 Views
I'd love to see Mat spanking Caddy as he did Joline Skeeve the Great - 19/11/2009 10:48:21 PM 1278 Views
I'd like to see that too . Fanatic-Templar - 19/11/2009 11:40:26 PM 1108 Views
I actually think Mat needs a spanking. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/11/2009 10:23:46 PM 630 Views
I had no problem with the spanking... vandevere - 19/11/2009 11:07:07 PM 1298 Views
Best news I've heard all day *NM* BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 11:09:49 PM 729 Views
Actually... what happened to Semirhage was BEAUTIFUL. Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 11:28:29 PM 1333 Views
I agree with your second half beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:27:07 AM 1115 Views
The Forsaken aren't lame, they just aren't that special AgentOrange - 20/11/2009 12:30:51 PM 1123 Views
Their lack of special-ness has made them become lame villians beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:50:50 AM 1133 Views
She is dead to me! Sandwich - 20/11/2009 12:25:42 AM 1039 Views
I agree with Cannoli and Fionwe's on the best way to handle Semirhage Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:17:41 AM 1078 Views
Book 14 you think Lord o' Salv - 20/11/2009 04:55:29 AM 1111 Views
So would you enjoy seeing Moridin pulled over Cadsuane's knee and spanked? Shannow - 20/11/2009 07:48:45 AM 1217 Views
You're upset about the spanking and have missed the reason for it. Sidious - 20/11/2009 03:05:50 PM 1246 Views
Don't avoid the question... Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:27:23 PM 1166 Views
I'm not avoiding anything, just pointing out how silly this post is Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:50:17 PM 1172 Views
Hehe... Shannow - 20/11/2009 05:25:56 PM 1185 Views
Re: Hehe... Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:44:06 AM 1187 Views
Re: I'm not avoiding anything, just pointing out how silly this post is p hart - 08/05/2010 01:07:13 AM 1236 Views
Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:36:36 PM 1069 Views
Hey now... imagine how Balthamel's fans feel BlackAdder - 21/11/2009 02:21:48 AM 1120 Views
I think Aginor was the worst. Fanatic-Templar - 21/11/2009 04:10:51 AM 1095 Views
Re: Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:26:53 AM 1130 Views
Re: You're upset about the spanking and have missed the reason for it. p hart - 08/05/2010 12:58:52 AM 8549 Views
The thing that bothers me is that you're right beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:10:44 AM 1114 Views
Except that Demandred is the one Darksider who knows about Elayne Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:30:26 PM 1188 Views
Re: Except that Demandred is the one Darksider who knows about Elayne Sidious - 22/11/2009 10:13:44 AM 1440 Views
He was dispatched 'fairly easily' because he was betrayed by Moridin . Fanatic-Templar - 22/11/2009 08:09:38 PM 1046 Views
I think it was an excellent look at just how pathetic most of the Forsaken are and why they sold out everynametaken - 20/11/2009 04:21:36 AM 1198 Views
The weird thing is, (or maybe not so weird), that I feel like she suffered the same way in tGS beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:36:45 AM 1202 Views
Re: I think it was an excellent look at just how pathetic most of the Forsaken are and p hart - 08/05/2010 12:13:20 AM 1137 Views
because thats what sadists are! nigelgoboom - 20/11/2009 04:03:31 PM 1459 Views
How many people p hart - 08/05/2010 12:30:17 AM 1154 Views
At least two. Kaldric - 10/05/2010 02:10:31 PM 983 Views
Re: At least two. p hart - 21/06/2010 01:24:53 AM 1285 Views
Shame has traditionally been one of the greatest ways of enforcing public order Rurouni_Kenshin - 21/06/2010 02:55:54 AM 1119 Views
Re: Semirhage vs Cadsuane - in Sanderson's words... Demortae - 29/06/2010 10:29:51 PM 1341 Views
Cadsuane was brilliant in that scene. The Angry Druid - 02/07/2010 12:41:06 AM 1166 Views
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