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Cadsuane was brilliant in that scene. The Angry Druid Send a noteboard - 02/07/2010 12:41:06 AM
She robbed Semirhage of her mystique and reduced her to a level where the other AS could deal with her as a woman (albeit a powerful and dangerous one), not as some legend out of history.

How could you not love that scene?

One of my greatest fears for the series is that BS brings some of his ideas of the characters, which were formed when he was younger, out in his writing. I know he tries to avoid it, but his writing of, and distaste for, Cadsuane have me a bit worried.

Anyway, hopefully RJ set the boundaries well for most.
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Semirhage vs Cadsuane - in Sanderson's words... Shannow - 19/11/2009 09:58:19 PM 3244 Views
The two of you are pathetic Cannoli - 19/11/2009 10:09:34 PM 1732 Views
Your problem is... Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:21:40 PM 1648 Views
Well said. It takes something away from the story. *NM* Narg - 19/11/2009 10:34:41 PM 757 Views
No. Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:15:32 AM 1439 Views
And now he's not "blind" anymore beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:20:56 AM 1346 Views
*Cough* MoridinDemandredTaim *Cough* *NM* Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:16:14 PM 637 Views
*cough* philosopherguywhosdonenothingcrazyperson *cough* beetnemesis - 22/11/2009 05:19:20 PM 1443 Views
Well said. Compare her to, say, Mogheidan. beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:17:57 AM 1398 Views
True to a degree Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:26:20 AM 1340 Views
There's a little more to it as well Light in the Night - 20/11/2009 08:51:03 AM 1303 Views
You know, I agree BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 11:12:49 PM 1415 Views
But she gave us a clue as to how she might be broken. Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:17:04 AM 1239 Views
I would love to see tSR and tFoH from Moiraine's perspective beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:22:55 AM 1218 Views
I imagine it took A LOT of frustration and anger management. *NM* Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:27:13 AM 687 Views
I don't think Moiraine became meek at all MightyYT - 20/11/2009 11:06:05 AM 1237 Views
That's what I meant, actually beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:44:26 AM 1219 Views
I don't think Rand will do it, though BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:10:27 AM 1172 Views
Re: You know, I agree Evil_Monkey - 09/05/2010 09:08:58 PM 1321 Views
I agree with Cannoli completely. (Did I just say that?) Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 11:18:09 PM 1414 Views
And I agree with Rand al'Thor. Fanatic-Templar - 19/11/2009 11:35:55 PM 1252 Views
And I agree with Fanatic-Templar. Wotmaniac Reborn - 20/11/2009 10:40:26 PM 1306 Views
Ditto *NM* echooff - 21/06/2010 01:15:04 PM 612 Views
I didn't like it for the same reason I don't like the Aes Sedai much anymore beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 07:40:31 AM 1325 Views
WoT isn't pure fantasy - it's humans within a fantasy world Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:20:23 AM 1183 Views
Oh, totally- but humans can act in more than one way. "Real" humans can be terrifying, too! beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:33:53 AM 1286 Views
I'm pretty sure that AS are meant to be a parable for the government... Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:20:14 PM 1184 Views
And also BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:08:39 AM 1274 Views
Actually, it did, but it didn't care about him at all. Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:21:02 PM 1156 Views
Re: I didn't like it for the same reason I don't like the Aes Sedai much anymore p hart - 08/05/2010 12:46:31 AM 1313 Views
Re: The two of you are pathetic p hart - 08/05/2010 12:05:51 AM 1312 Views
personally, I loved the scene kcf - 19/11/2009 10:10:44 PM 1471 Views
Agreed. I thought it worked. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 10:40:04 PM 679 Views
Are you feeling all right? If you are, Cannoli is right, and you're pathetic. fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 10:18:54 PM 1383 Views
See my response to Cannoli. *NM* Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:25:15 PM 724 Views
That was barely a response... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2009 12:43:07 AM 1264 Views
There's always more than one way for a story to "logically" progress beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:07:44 AM 1262 Views
Re: That was barely a response... p hart - 08/05/2010 12:24:55 AM 1326 Views
Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:01:17 AM 1260 Views
On the other hand BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:13:54 AM 1245 Views
Re: Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:50:07 PM 1224 Views
Yeah, Semi never got much screentime beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:47:27 AM 1299 Views
Re: Yeah, Semi never got much screentime Fanatic-Templar - 21/11/2009 04:09:26 AM 1253 Views
Re: Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. p hart - 08/05/2010 01:17:07 AM 1288 Views
Oh, they're quite good at killing people. Fanatic-Templar - 08/05/2010 06:47:35 AM 1197 Views
Re: Oh, they're quite good at killing people. p hart - 09/05/2010 06:09:38 PM 1311 Views
Actually, it's why they're still alive. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 06:32:22 PM 1151 Views
Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. p hart - 21/06/2010 01:15:19 AM 1179 Views
Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. Fanatic-Templar - 21/06/2010 01:32:25 AM 1289 Views
Are they? Why are Mat, Perrin and the Wondergirls still alive? Lohikaarme - 13/05/2010 12:47:57 AM 1189 Views
Nobody's even tried to kill them since Ishamael died, until he gave the order again in KoD. Fanatic-Templar - 13/05/2010 01:13:02 AM 1170 Views
It'd be harder to kill them now as they have come into their own power p hart - 21/06/2010 01:18:31 AM 1143 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 21/06/2010 01:34:51 AM 1247 Views
If they're good at killing people Lohikaarme - 06/07/2010 10:00:41 PM 1046 Views
I loved that scene - it's actually dog-eared because it's one of my favorites. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 19/11/2009 10:37:33 PM 1310 Views
exactly *NM* AgentOrange - 19/11/2009 11:06:48 PM 674 Views
Really liked her complaints about the food Wotmaniac Reborn - 20/11/2009 10:42:57 PM 1285 Views
I'd love to see Mat spanking Caddy as he did Joline Skeeve the Great - 19/11/2009 10:48:21 PM 1357 Views
I'd like to see that too . Fanatic-Templar - 19/11/2009 11:40:26 PM 1199 Views
I actually think Mat needs a spanking. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/11/2009 10:23:46 PM 667 Views
I had no problem with the spanking... vandevere - 19/11/2009 11:07:07 PM 1384 Views
Best news I've heard all day *NM* BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 11:09:49 PM 772 Views
Actually... what happened to Semirhage was BEAUTIFUL. Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 11:28:29 PM 1482 Views
I agree with your second half beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:27:07 AM 1197 Views
The Forsaken aren't lame, they just aren't that special AgentOrange - 20/11/2009 12:30:51 PM 1204 Views
Their lack of special-ness has made them become lame villians beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:50:50 AM 1216 Views
She is dead to me! Sandwich - 20/11/2009 12:25:42 AM 1127 Views
I agree with Cannoli and Fionwe's on the best way to handle Semirhage Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:17:41 AM 1152 Views
Book 14 you think Lord o' Salv - 20/11/2009 04:55:29 AM 1198 Views
So would you enjoy seeing Moridin pulled over Cadsuane's knee and spanked? Shannow - 20/11/2009 07:48:45 AM 1301 Views
You're upset about the spanking and have missed the reason for it. Sidious - 20/11/2009 03:05:50 PM 1322 Views
Don't avoid the question... Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:27:23 PM 1254 Views
I'm not avoiding anything, just pointing out how silly this post is Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:50:17 PM 1266 Views
Hehe... Shannow - 20/11/2009 05:25:56 PM 1270 Views
Re: Hehe... Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:44:06 AM 1279 Views
Re: I'm not avoiding anything, just pointing out how silly this post is p hart - 08/05/2010 01:07:13 AM 1326 Views
Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:36:36 PM 1155 Views
Hey now... imagine how Balthamel's fans feel BlackAdder - 21/11/2009 02:21:48 AM 1207 Views
I think Aginor was the worst. Fanatic-Templar - 21/11/2009 04:10:51 AM 1186 Views
Re: Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:26:53 AM 1218 Views
Re: You're upset about the spanking and have missed the reason for it. p hart - 08/05/2010 12:58:52 AM 8999 Views
The thing that bothers me is that you're right beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:10:44 AM 1204 Views
Except that Demandred is the one Darksider who knows about Elayne Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:30:26 PM 1280 Views
Re: Except that Demandred is the one Darksider who knows about Elayne Sidious - 22/11/2009 10:13:44 AM 1539 Views
He was dispatched 'fairly easily' because he was betrayed by Moridin . Fanatic-Templar - 22/11/2009 08:09:38 PM 1127 Views
I think it was an excellent look at just how pathetic most of the Forsaken are and why they sold out everynametaken - 20/11/2009 04:21:36 AM 1277 Views
The weird thing is, (or maybe not so weird), that I feel like she suffered the same way in tGS beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:36:45 AM 1296 Views
Re: I think it was an excellent look at just how pathetic most of the Forsaken are and p hart - 08/05/2010 12:13:20 AM 1236 Views
because thats what sadists are! nigelgoboom - 20/11/2009 04:03:31 PM 1545 Views
How many people p hart - 08/05/2010 12:30:17 AM 1242 Views
At least two. Kaldric - 10/05/2010 02:10:31 PM 1057 Views
Re: At least two. p hart - 21/06/2010 01:24:53 AM 1379 Views
Shame has traditionally been one of the greatest ways of enforcing public order Rurouni_Kenshin - 21/06/2010 02:55:54 AM 1190 Views
Re: Semirhage vs Cadsuane - in Sanderson's words... Demortae - 29/06/2010 10:29:51 PM 1422 Views
Cadsuane was brilliant in that scene. The Angry Druid - 02/07/2010 12:41:06 AM 1246 Views
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