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I so desperately want you to be right. Seriana Sedai Send a noteboard - 14/07/2010 06:30:16 AM
I can totally see Graendal doing this.
The problem is I think she did die. Not because she wasn't smart enough to outsmart Rand, not because I see any hole in your theory.
Because I think her death was a statement about Rand's character. He went from not wanting to kill any women or innocents to nuking the palace where he was pretty sure Graendal probably was but her innocent pets certainly were. It's a huge leap for him. It's profound. I think if Graendal survived it that would invalidate a lot of what we felt when he did that, makes it less of a game changer.
I want Graendal to be alive. I want her killed off in a dramatic scene where she is her usual brilliant self but just has a small dose of bad luck. I want her to have a moment. I know that convention says if you don't see the body they aren't dead. Unfortunately, I think Graendal is and I think it was ultimately best for the story.
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What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? - 13/07/2010 09:00:05 AM 2160 Views
Too convulted to make any sense... - 13/07/2010 09:22:26 AM 1100 Views
Too convulted...... - 14/07/2010 07:26:26 PM 1341 Views
The logic is rather... - 15/07/2010 05:09:30 PM 1005 Views
What is the reason Delana is with Graendal? - 13/07/2010 09:31:36 AM 1179 Views
Indeed... - 13/07/2010 10:06:32 AM 1088 Views
Re: Indeed... - 13/07/2010 10:10:43 AM 1145 Views
That is wrong - 13/07/2010 10:19:32 AM 987 Views
Re: That is wrong - 13/07/2010 10:29:16 AM 1057 Views
It's not at all... - 13/07/2010 10:35:49 AM 966 Views
Plus... - 13/07/2010 12:18:12 PM 896 Views
I agree with part and disagree with part. - 14/07/2010 06:39:36 PM 970 Views
exactly - 14/07/2010 06:43:14 PM 978 Views
Does the Compulsion fit Graendal? - 13/07/2010 03:40:36 PM 1035 Views
sorry but no - 13/07/2010 09:49:13 AM 1109 Views
Exactly - 13/07/2010 10:14:06 AM 953 Views
Yeah dacole provided powerful evidence *NM* - 13/07/2010 10:25:13 AM 527 Views
Actually... - 13/07/2010 10:30:24 AM 1003 Views
Or, as with Moghedien. - 13/07/2010 02:35:44 PM 1149 Views
It makes perfect sense. - 13/07/2010 02:33:09 PM 1015 Views
This is actually the first thing that I thought of in that scene *NM* - 13/07/2010 04:08:48 PM 665 Views
Yes, Graendal completely outsmarted Rand. - 13/07/2010 05:56:30 PM 1108 Views
I just think it's funny that people make fun of such a basic plan as convoluted. - 13/07/2010 06:33:44 PM 1080 Views
Indeed... imagine how a truly complex plan would confound them - 13/07/2010 08:41:54 PM 1000 Views
Re: Indeed... imagine how a truly complex plan would confound them - 13/07/2010 09:09:09 PM 1054 Views
You draw too much attention to yourself, Mr Underwood *NM* - 14/07/2010 05:13:42 AM 626 Views
Ha, nice! *NM* - 14/07/2010 04:05:00 PM 528 Views
What are you talking about? I was agreeing with you, it's absurdly simple. - 13/07/2010 09:27:22 PM 1060 Views
Huh - 14/07/2010 05:22:51 AM 1046 Views
Why did the lair explode? - 14/07/2010 06:17:32 AM 1009 Views
*NM* - 14/07/2010 01:58:17 PM 685 Views
While I generally agree with you...you missed an important detail. - 14/07/2010 02:06:31 PM 1186 Views
What did Rand tell Ramshalan... - 14/07/2010 04:29:04 PM 893 Views
Re: What did Rand tell Ramshalan... - 14/07/2010 04:52:11 PM 986 Views
... - 14/07/2010 09:22:21 PM 1163 Views
he doesn't have to read Rands mind - 14/07/2010 09:41:59 PM 932 Views
Provide a quote. - 15/07/2010 04:10:06 AM 1060 Views
read the chapter - 10/08/2010 09:22:02 PM 904 Views
Right, that's why I asked. Because I know you can't. - 10/08/2010 10:00:14 PM 1027 Views
sigh ... always so aggressive ... why you gotta hate - 11/08/2010 03:23:31 AM 1118 Views
Was that what I asked for? - 11/08/2010 04:05:41 AM 864 Views
sorry misunderstood what you were looking for - 11/08/2010 04:50:17 PM 915 Views
Oh if that's what you want - 11/08/2010 04:45:19 PM 1031 Views
why does it have to be a well thought out plan? - 14/07/2010 04:14:17 PM 913 Views
She would have to teach her pawn Compulsion. - 14/07/2010 04:30:12 PM 896 Views
No she'd only have to show Delana a weave to duplicate - 14/07/2010 04:48:24 PM 990 Views
Nonsense. - 14/07/2010 09:30:01 PM 1036 Views
yet Sorilea, can duplicate Cadsuane's weaves after one quick glance - 14/07/2010 09:52:01 PM 1034 Views
Which ones? - 15/07/2010 04:14:23 AM 908 Views
Re: Which ones? - 15/07/2010 05:25:28 AM 1010 Views
Well. - 15/07/2010 06:53:29 AM 892 Views
Actually I think it's one of those things that make AS so stupid - 10/08/2010 09:36:43 PM 975 Views
the Sorilea moment is when they first meet Semirhage - 10/08/2010 09:32:26 PM 1050 Views
Thanks for the quote. - 10/08/2010 10:02:36 PM 1122 Views
Re: I just think it's funny that people make fun of such a basic plan as convoluted. - 14/07/2010 05:40:11 PM 916 Views
She's so smart, she knows Rand will bring along Nynaeve to check Delana's Compulsion - 13/07/2010 08:32:19 PM 919 Views
we've seen any number of times that a Channeler can make an exact copy of weaves - 14/07/2010 04:10:41 PM 1055 Views
Ramshalan didn't know the plan as you claim - 14/07/2010 04:16:29 PM 832 Views
he knew enough to alert Graendal to the danger - 14/07/2010 04:50:26 PM 1074 Views
No. Don't think so. - 13/07/2010 08:35:34 PM 904 Views
I so desperately want you to be right. - 14/07/2010 06:30:16 AM 1058 Views
Graendal being alive would make more of a statement... - 14/07/2010 06:53:48 AM 975 Views
Re: Graendal being alive would make more of a statement... - 14/07/2010 07:10:49 AM 1056 Views
Re: Graendal being alive would make more of a statement... - 15/07/2010 10:50:05 PM 991 Views
Yip - 14/07/2010 04:33:03 PM 960 Views
Lame. - 14/07/2010 10:44:47 AM 899 Views
Not really - 14/07/2010 04:15:38 PM 859 Views
she's dead, get over it *NM* - 14/07/2010 01:12:15 PM 578 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? - 14/07/2010 05:44:38 PM 904 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? - 14/07/2010 07:21:29 PM 994 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? - 10/08/2010 09:12:17 PM 1096 Views
Sounds about right. Wonder if he intends to try and get Callandor? *NM* - 13/08/2010 07:41:47 AM 358 Views
*shrug* Seems a bit complex to me... - 14/07/2010 07:17:49 PM 1296 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? - 15/07/2010 04:38:09 PM 1011 Views
Re: What about this little 'Graendal survived' theory? - 10/11/2010 04:09:41 AM 886 Views
Why? *Towers of Midnight spoilers* - 10/11/2010 04:41:11 AM 864 Views
Because he was right, that's why. - 11/11/2010 03:39:39 AM 885 Views
Not by my reckoning. *Still contains ToM spoilers* - 11/11/2010 04:22:59 AM 851 Views
No one ever gets every detail right - it's impossible - 11/11/2010 06:06:26 AM 1108 Views
Yes, but I don't think this was a detail. *Still ToM spoilers.* - 11/11/2010 06:31:40 AM 987 Views
Re: Why? *Towers of Midnight spoilers* - 11/11/2010 04:12:38 AM 990 Views
Please try to maintain some decorum. *Also ToM spoilers* - 11/11/2010 04:45:08 AM 935 Views

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