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Re: Because some people can't read... Sidious Send a noteboard - 15/07/2010 05:31:22 AM
IMHO, there's a fair possibility the ackwardness arose from the fact Graendal is dead by the end of TGS, but she won't be dead yet for the first half of TOM, and he didn't want to hint if she will make a return before she dies or not.


This is IMO the most likely case ... odds are she is dead, but we're going back far enough in the overall timeline that she'll still be kicking around for part of ToM ... I'd LOVE to see her death scene from her perspective!


The chapter would have to be written very carefully. The first time I saw her name I would assume that she'd survived, but it would take further reading to see that she had not even been attacked yet. Some readers might even think she's being attacked for the second time, LOL.
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Chat with Brandon posted on Dragonmount Skeeve the Great - 12/07/2010 04:23:24 PM 2038 Views
This... Etzel - 12/07/2010 04:54:28 PM 1182 Views
how do you get there from this? darius_sedai - 12/07/2010 05:47:42 PM 1033 Views
Right. There could easily be a scene like this: beetnemesis - 12/07/2010 06:22:45 PM 965 Views
Because... Etzel - 12/07/2010 10:40:29 PM 992 Views
You're brilliant, Etzel, but Brandon is NOT robert jordan newyorkersedai - 13/07/2010 01:18:44 AM 937 Views
He said it won't be 100% flashback like book 10 Rurouni_Kenshin - 13/07/2010 05:30:18 AM 840 Views
But obviously not for the timelines, which are up to date. Etzel - 13/07/2010 08:41:37 AM 963 Views
the only reason you say this is because you think it makes Slayer darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 02:39:52 AM 945 Views
Re: the only reason you say this is because you think it makes Slayer dacole - 14/07/2010 04:54:16 AM 891 Views
Graendal is part of several plot lines. Aran'gar at the very least is unseen in TGS, but involved darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 02:40:09 PM 913 Views
No... Etzel - 14/07/2010 08:10:12 AM 835 Views
so it's not possible for anything that has never been done in the series to happen... ok darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 02:38:08 PM 809 Views
Again, there is no sensible reason for a scene where Graendal is shown again before her death. *NM* Etzel - 14/07/2010 04:47:21 PM 774 Views
sure there is ... to tell us she killed Asmo darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 04:56:09 PM 976 Views
Again... Etzel - 15/07/2010 08:57:34 AM 737 Views
or it could as easily be a scene from Aran'gar's POV that includes Graendal darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 01:36:21 PM 901 Views
The point is... Etzel - 15/07/2010 01:55:43 PM 823 Views
that is 100% your interpretation darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 02:51:49 PM 857 Views
Noal was involved with Ishy; a connection to Graendal is pure speculation. Etzel - 15/07/2010 03:19:38 PM 765 Views
I'm pointing out that she had more than just Rands plot line darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 03:59:36 PM 765 Views
As far as we know... Etzel - 15/07/2010 04:06:56 PM 819 Views
she also knows what Cyndane and Moghedien are up to and may be involved darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 01:58:36 PM 977 Views
There is nothing to support your view, that Graendal was directly involved in any other plotlines... Etzel - 16/07/2010 02:31:01 PM 741 Views
She doesn't have to be in order to make an appearance in them darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 03:26:44 PM 873 Views
We will see... *NM* Etzel - 16/07/2010 03:36:21 PM 1064 Views
Indeed Sidious - 13/07/2010 08:49:43 AM 791 Views
The "flashbacks" are obviously related to those characters, which aren't up to date yet... Etzel - 13/07/2010 09:14:04 AM 976 Views
give up Eztel...they think they know Asmodens killer...we know they are wrong dacole - 13/07/2010 09:45:15 AM 858 Views
I agree regarding Graendal, but have to disagree concerning Lanfear. *NM* Etzel - 13/07/2010 09:51:00 AM 1037 Views
Re: The "flashbacks" are obviously related to those characters, which aren't up to date yet... Sidious - 13/07/2010 10:03:14 AM 904 Views
It's completely unlikely and unnecessary Etzel - 13/07/2010 10:25:36 AM 972 Views
you keep trotting this point out like it matters darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 09:07:36 PM 859 Views
a very irritating habit indeed!! Sidious - 15/07/2010 05:29:19 AM 964 Views
There is no indication that Graendal & Aran'gar did anything, except for exchanging infos! Etzel - 15/07/2010 09:01:58 AM 786 Views
where do you get this stuff from? darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 01:41:07 PM 996 Views
Eh, no Etzel - 15/07/2010 02:08:56 PM 852 Views
I disagree darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 02:56:02 PM 815 Views
Graendal actually tells that she learned interesting things from Aran'gar Etzel - 15/07/2010 03:14:54 PM 938 Views
pure interpretation darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 04:00:31 PM 874 Views
Well, it fits RJ's theme that the bad guys actually aren't that competent. *NM* Etzel - 15/07/2010 04:12:19 PM 938 Views
No really since it would make Aran'gar look pretty competent *NM* darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 03:27:40 PM 379 Views
Aran'gar just had the luck that Rand wasn't after her Etzel - 16/07/2010 03:34:53 PM 671 Views
Exchanging info is not doing nothing Sidious - 15/07/2010 06:54:17 PM 797 Views
Re: Exchanging info is not doing nothing Etzel - 15/07/2010 10:08:44 PM 843 Views
Re: Exchanging info is not doing nothing Sidious - 16/07/2010 05:30:25 AM 799 Views
IMO... Etzel - 16/07/2010 08:46:03 AM 743 Views
And... Etzel - 16/07/2010 11:35:44 AM 864 Views
you continue to ignore that Graendal died about 2 months after she darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 02:06:48 PM 888 Views
Usually the Forsaken meet in neutral TAR... Etzel - 16/07/2010 02:22:34 PM 934 Views
not really darius_sedai - 16/07/2010 03:58:57 PM 1009 Views
Good, then we agree, if you consider it unlikely as well. *NM* Etzel - 16/07/2010 05:56:50 PM 983 Views
Trust me, Graendal won't be seen; only her name will be mentioned a few times (as BS said). *NM* Etzel - 15/07/2010 09:03:33 AM 861 Views
You should really just write it for BS since you clearly know exactly what's going to happen darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 02:57:59 PM 865 Views
Ok... Etzel - 15/07/2010 03:17:02 PM 781 Views
When did I say there would be a Graendal POV? darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 04:03:54 PM 856 Views
I also just said that... Etzel - 15/07/2010 04:10:32 PM 749 Views
Re: It's completely unlikely and unnecessary Datakim - 14/07/2010 10:10:48 PM 799 Views
But we never... Etzel - 15/07/2010 09:17:30 AM 850 Views
Re: But we never... Datakim - 15/07/2010 10:52:24 PM 818 Views
I think Etzel - 16/07/2010 09:30:46 AM 918 Views
Re: I think Datakim - 16/07/2010 04:37:20 PM 914 Views
Yeah, RAFO! I predigt however, that we won't have another Graendal PoV. *NM* Etzel - 16/07/2010 05:59:26 PM 834 Views
Etzel, you're making an assumption that might not be true. Logain - 16/07/2010 05:47:39 PM 946 Views
I admit the possibility, but consider it highly unlikely for the reasons I pointed out. *NM* Etzel - 16/07/2010 05:58:01 PM 908 Views
Because some people can't read... DomA - 14/07/2010 01:05:08 PM 938 Views
Re: Because some people can't read... darius_sedai - 14/07/2010 09:14:27 PM 733 Views
Re: Because some people can't read... Sidious - 15/07/2010 05:31:22 AM 747 Views
Rand used so much baelfire on her that he zapped them all back to the last 3rd Age darius_sedai - 15/07/2010 01:38:48 PM 965 Views
I wonder if their big role means Rand and Eg will get more chapters than first thought. *NM* RandAllThor - 12/07/2010 05:27:44 PM 891 Views
Yeah, seems so. *NM* Etzel - 13/07/2010 12:19:53 PM 856 Views
Brandon's "Mostly" answer makes it less likely we see the Land of Madmen as Demandred's base Logain - 12/07/2010 07:36:49 PM 1008 Views
hrmm, not necessarily Kieran - 12/07/2010 09:28:00 PM 807 Views
I agree. *NM* Etzel - 13/07/2010 12:24:21 PM 414 Views
Uh... TaskmasterJack - 12/07/2010 10:10:08 PM 929 Views
or "can't" because ... Shishka - 12/07/2010 10:34:14 PM 795 Views
Re: or "can't" because ... TaskmasterJack - 13/07/2010 01:00:45 AM 815 Views
I think he isn't allowed to... Etzel - 13/07/2010 12:23:55 PM 933 Views
On a somewhat related note, Sanderson says ToM consists of 80 chapters as of now. Ginormous! RandAllThor - 13/07/2010 01:54:15 AM 794 Views
Perrin catch-up? Comet Sedai - 13/07/2010 02:55:22 AM 726 Views
We will get it on screen Deadsy - 13/07/2010 03:30:33 AM 812 Views
On Mat's "death" Etzel - 13/07/2010 12:34:35 PM 1040 Views
Re: On Mat's "death" Datakim - 13/07/2010 02:23:19 PM 749 Views
This report was probably a misinterpretation Etzel - 14/07/2010 08:23:24 AM 865 Views
Re: This report was probably a misinterpretation Datakim - 14/07/2010 10:03:36 PM 897 Views
I emailed BS and he sent me copies of both the books he mentioned in the Q&A! Mats imaginary friend - 14/07/2010 08:32:58 PM 812 Views
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