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not really darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 16/07/2010 03:58:57 PM
Especially if they don't completely trust each other, as one can suspect with Graendal and Aran'gar, who never worked together before. Graendal and Sammael were already quite close in the AoL, thus it's not surprising that Graendal would tell him about her lair (contrary to Aran'gar).

I definitely think, though, that it's likely that Graendal and Aran'gar met once or twice in TAR between the prologue of TGS and Graendal's death. However, nothing suggests that Graendal would tell Aran'gar about her lair or that they were closely working together on some project, but just exchanging infos. That Aran'gar lost her power base could make her even less valuable in Graendal's eyes. Probably both were anyway rather busy on their very own plots in the last weeks till Graendal's death so that they didn't see each other that often.

Actually I didn't start the discussion, if Graendal will have a PoV in ToM. Other people suddenly suggested that it's very likely that we will see Graendal again and that she will have a PoV in ToM, although she died, or even claimed that BS stated that we'll see Graendal again, because they obviously misinterpreted BS's comments about the timelines & that Graendal's name will be mentioned in ToM a few times. I just pointed out the reasons then, why it is highly unlikely that Graendal will be seen again, let alone have a PoV in ToM, if she died in TGS. Apparently you agree with this.

As said, I think most likely Aran'gar will muse about Graendal, their last meeting & her death, at whatever location Aran'gar is staying now or during a Forsaken meeting.


That seems to be the case when many of them meet, but Graendal has had plenty of visitors: Asmodean, Moghedien, Sammael, and Moridin have all had face to face meetings with her either in her lair or in theirs... we've actually not seen that many TAR meetings recently, and we also know that Aran'gar is not as adept there as others, which IMO would make her less willing to have a meeting there when it would put her on weaker footing.

I don't think it's likely Graendal will have a POV in ToM unless she's actually alive, but I don't think it's a stretch to have a scene with her in it prior to her death. Nothing Sanderson has said eliminates that possibility.
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