Etzel, you're making an assumption that might not be true.
Logain Send a noteboard - 16/07/2010 05:47:39 PM
In fact, BS's answer that there are flashbacks makes is highly likely that we will get a Graendal PoV.
For example, Perrin, but also Lan or Loial.
It's complete nonsense to bring back a character that died in Rand's timeline - which is up to date - with a scene before the death; something like this also never happened before in the series. One could also argue in a similarly absurd way then that we will "likely" get another Semirhage or Elza PoV from before their deaths, just because it would be cool.
We all agree that Perrin and Mat's timelines have to be advanced and that they are weeks (maybe months) behind everyone else. Other minor characters are also behind, e.g. Lan, and some of those minor characters might get a chapter devoted to them, particularly Lan.
Anyway, why are you assuming Graendal couldn't have been playing a role in the Mat or Perrin parts of the world?
Wouldn't you agree that if Graendal has a part to play with what is happening to Mat or Perrin then she could appear in the next book? I think you have to agree of that possibility.
You're making a completely different argument in your other posts. You're saying that it would be awkward, from a literary perspective, to have a dead character make a reappearance in a later book. I agree, but that doesn't preclude the possibility of seeing Graendal in this next book.
Also, remember that originally there was only going to be one final book. The decision to split the final 900K words into three books might have made the difference here. For example, suppose that RJ always intended to reveal Asmo's killer via a Graendal POV in one of the Perrin or Mat threads. It is not too hard to imagine how the Asmo reveal might have been pushed back to ToM simply because there wasn't room in TGS due to the way the storylines were chopped up.
In any event, even if Graendal is dead (and I think she is) you cannot completely rule out seeing her in ToM because ToM goes backward in time by several weeks/months.
You should at least admit the possibility.
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This...
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how do you get there from this?
12/07/2010 05:47:42 PM
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Because...
12/07/2010 10:40:29 PM
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the only reason you say this is because you think it makes Slayer
14/07/2010 02:39:52 AM
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Re: the only reason you say this is because you think it makes Slayer
14/07/2010 04:54:16 AM
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Graendal is part of several plot lines. Aran'gar at the very least is unseen in TGS, but involved
14/07/2010 02:40:09 PM
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No...
14/07/2010 08:10:12 AM
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so it's not possible for anything that has never been done in the series to happen... ok
14/07/2010 02:38:08 PM
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Again, there is no sensible reason for a scene where Graendal is shown again before her death. *NM*
14/07/2010 04:47:21 PM
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sure there is ... to tell us she killed Asmo
14/07/2010 04:56:09 PM
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Again...
15/07/2010 08:57:34 AM
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or it could as easily be a scene from Aran'gar's POV that includes Graendal
15/07/2010 01:36:21 PM
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The point is...
15/07/2010 01:55:43 PM
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that is 100% your interpretation
15/07/2010 02:51:49 PM
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Noal was involved with Ishy; a connection to Graendal is pure speculation.
15/07/2010 03:19:38 PM
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I'm pointing out that she had more than just Rands plot line
15/07/2010 03:59:36 PM
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As far as we know...
15/07/2010 04:06:56 PM
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she also knows what Cyndane and Moghedien are up to and may be involved
16/07/2010 01:58:36 PM
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There is nothing to support your view, that Graendal was directly involved in any other plotlines...
16/07/2010 02:31:01 PM
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Indeed
13/07/2010 08:49:43 AM
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The "flashbacks" are obviously related to those characters, which aren't up to date yet...
13/07/2010 09:14:04 AM
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give up Eztel...they think they know Asmodens killer...we know they are wrong
13/07/2010 09:45:15 AM
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I agree regarding Graendal, but have to disagree concerning Lanfear.
*NM*
13/07/2010 09:51:00 AM
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Re: The "flashbacks" are obviously related to those characters, which aren't up to date yet...
13/07/2010 10:03:14 AM
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It's completely unlikely and unnecessary
13/07/2010 10:25:36 AM
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you keep trotting this point out like it matters
14/07/2010 09:07:36 PM
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a very irritating habit indeed!!
15/07/2010 05:29:19 AM
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There is no indication that Graendal & Aran'gar did anything, except for exchanging infos!
15/07/2010 09:01:58 AM
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where do you get this stuff from?
15/07/2010 01:41:07 PM
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Eh, no
15/07/2010 02:08:56 PM
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I disagree
15/07/2010 02:56:02 PM
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Graendal actually tells that she learned interesting things from Aran'gar
15/07/2010 03:14:54 PM
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pure interpretation
15/07/2010 04:00:31 PM
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Well, it fits RJ's theme that the bad guys actually aren't that competent. *NM*
15/07/2010 04:12:19 PM
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No really since it would make Aran'gar look pretty competent *NM*
16/07/2010 03:27:40 PM
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Exchanging info is not doing nothing
15/07/2010 06:54:17 PM
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Re: Exchanging info is not doing nothing
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Re: Exchanging info is not doing nothing
16/07/2010 05:30:25 AM
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And...
16/07/2010 11:35:44 AM
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you continue to ignore that Graendal died about 2 months after she
16/07/2010 02:06:48 PM
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Usually the Forsaken meet in neutral TAR...
16/07/2010 02:22:34 PM
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Trust me, Graendal won't be seen; only her name will be mentioned a few times (as BS said).
*NM*
15/07/2010 09:03:33 AM
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You should really just write it for BS since you clearly know exactly what's going to happen
15/07/2010 02:57:59 PM
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Ok...
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Re: It's completely unlikely and unnecessary
14/07/2010 10:10:48 PM
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But we never...
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Re: But we never...
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I think
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Re: I think
16/07/2010 04:37:20 PM
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Yeah, RAFO! I predigt however, that we won't have another Graendal PoV. *NM*
16/07/2010 05:59:26 PM
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Etzel, you're making an assumption that might not be true.
16/07/2010 05:47:39 PM
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I admit the possibility, but consider it highly unlikely for the reasons I pointed out. *NM*
16/07/2010 05:58:01 PM
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Because some people can't read...
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Re: Because some people can't read...
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15/07/2010 05:31:22 AM
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Rand used so much baelfire on her that he zapped them all back to the last 3rd Age
15/07/2010 01:38:48 PM
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I wonder if their big role means Rand and Eg will get more chapters than first thought. *NM*
12/07/2010 05:27:44 PM
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Brandon's "Mostly" answer makes it less likely we see the Land of Madmen as Demandred's base
12/07/2010 07:36:49 PM
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On a somewhat related note, Sanderson says ToM consists of 80 chapters as of now. Ginormous!
13/07/2010 01:54:15 AM
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On Mat's "death"
13/07/2010 12:34:35 PM
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Re: On Mat's "death"
13/07/2010 02:23:19 PM
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I emailed BS and he sent me copies of both the books he mentioned in the Q&A!
14/07/2010 08:32:58 PM
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