The test is stupid and it was about time someone pointed it out
Zeratul Send a noteboard - 07/12/2010 10:29:38 PM
Maintaining complete calmness at all costs all the time is a bad ideal to strive for. Many people are more effective under pressure if they let their emotions affect them to an extend. Like Nynaeve. She did the weaves fine under huge pressure, so who cares if her emotions weren't totally under her rational control.
Another problem with the test and even more with the the Accepted test, is that the person who gets tested should demonstrate complete dedication to the White Tower and put everything else aside. Competence is a secondary criteria. Instead of sorting who's competent or not, those tests promotes those who are brainwashed enough by the Tower indoctrination to be ready to become yet another selfish manipulative Aes Sedai who couldn't care less about making the world a better place or doing anything worthwhile except furthering the political goals of the Tower or her own standing among the Aes Sedai.
The Aes Sedai as an organisation are obsessed a maintaining an appearance of competence and being in control instead of trying to prepare their members to be actually competent and in control. This test is just one of the many examples of it.
And as DomA said, the test makes no sense at all for most Ajah, since chances are they won't ever be asked to channel under extreme pressure and they need different qualities to be successful in their job.
Another problem with the test and even more with the the Accepted test, is that the person who gets tested should demonstrate complete dedication to the White Tower and put everything else aside. Competence is a secondary criteria. Instead of sorting who's competent or not, those tests promotes those who are brainwashed enough by the Tower indoctrination to be ready to become yet another selfish manipulative Aes Sedai who couldn't care less about making the world a better place or doing anything worthwhile except furthering the political goals of the Tower or her own standing among the Aes Sedai.
The Aes Sedai as an organisation are obsessed a maintaining an appearance of competence and being in control instead of trying to prepare their members to be actually competent and in control. This test is just one of the many examples of it.
And as DomA said, the test makes no sense at all for most Ajah, since chances are they won't ever be asked to channel under extreme pressure and they need different qualities to be successful in their job.
Nynaeve's stupidity and the test for Aes Sedai
- 07/12/2010 08:27:05 PM
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Way to totally misunderstand the chapter
- 07/12/2010 09:39:08 PM
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I second this
- 07/12/2010 10:10:24 PM
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your bold is stuck. *NM*
- 07/12/2010 10:21:22 PM
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On the whole, the test is innappropriate IMO
- 07/12/2010 09:40:08 PM
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nice post
- 08/12/2010 09:20:02 AM
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Isn't it implied
- 08/12/2010 02:16:58 PM
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no they were students together
- 08/12/2010 05:33:17 PM
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No, Lanfear was older than Lews
- 08/12/2010 07:21:45 PM
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Where on earth did you get that from?
- 08/12/2010 08:41:16 PM
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Re: Where on earth did you get that from?
- 09/12/2010 10:27:20 AM
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Re: Where on earth did you get that from?
- 09/12/2010 03:56:32 PM
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I always got the impression that they were together for quiet some time
- 09/12/2010 04:34:23 PM
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Re: I always got the impression that they were together for quiet some time
- 09/12/2010 05:43:40 PM
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I think skill with Saidar is easy enough to judge as it's a simple matter to see the skill
- 08/12/2010 05:37:27 PM
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I think the greens should have been on Nynaeve's side as well
- 08/12/2010 06:18:16 PM
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Problem is they are Aes Sedai and thus more likley to be political rather than rational! *NM*
- 08/12/2010 08:52:00 PM
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Re: nice post
- 09/12/2010 01:23:50 PM
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On the matter of strength
- 09/12/2010 08:51:36 PM
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Strength was "prized" in the AoL ... but lack of strength was not a negative
- 12/12/2010 01:41:08 AM
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The test is stupid and it was about time someone pointed it out
- 07/12/2010 10:29:38 PM
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Yes. How dare she not conform with every other fucking mindless stupid WT Aes Sedai *NM*
- 07/12/2010 11:36:52 PM
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Status is not an end in itself. *NM*
- 07/12/2010 11:52:37 PM
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They're not really stupid...
- 08/12/2010 01:00:20 AM
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Not saying they are. It's just that most AS that we've come across
- 08/12/2010 02:20:05 AM
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They're constantly outsmarted by a teenage girl that has spent most of her life in a damn farm.
- 08/12/2010 10:32:50 AM
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Bah...
- 09/12/2010 10:56:24 AM
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I did not say all Aes Sedai are stupid, I said all WT Aes Sedai are stupid.
- 10/12/2010 09:19:52 AM
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You are not only wrong in your call,
- 08/12/2010 04:39:44 AM
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Re: You are not only wrong in your call,
- 08/12/2010 09:13:37 AM
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if that is the purpose of the test
- 08/12/2010 01:34:45 PM
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minor disagreement
- 08/12/2010 05:27:51 PM
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Yes, but you can be not-panicked and not calm of body
- 08/12/2010 06:38:56 PM
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not really the same thing as what the AS are getting at though
- 08/12/2010 09:02:05 PM
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that's retarded, imo
- 09/12/2010 12:21:27 AM
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Oh it's totally stupid!
- 09/12/2010 04:37:14 PM
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No I know why she took the job. I just don't understand why she got it
- 09/12/2010 04:52:34 PM
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I think Elaida just smarmed up at the right time, Morgase was very young then
- 09/12/2010 05:52:29 PM
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Oh. Well, I'm sorry then.
- 08/12/2010 06:48:50 PM
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I think it has already been established that the purpose of the test is to ensure that
- 08/12/2010 09:59:18 PM
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Yeah, but how does that work?
- 08/12/2010 10:24:35 PM
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Somewhere in the sub-conscious they know what they're doing is important to them.
- 09/12/2010 12:20:47 AM
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Even so, it wouldn't work.
- 09/12/2010 03:32:55 AM
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I think if this thread has established anything it's that the test is severely flawed. *NM*
- 09/12/2010 09:24:48 PM
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Another headless chicken example.
- 09/12/2010 12:30:02 AM
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the headless chicken is just such a lovely metaphor for panic
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- 09/12/2010 04:48:11 AM
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- 09/12/2010 04:48:11 AM
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Re: Oh. Well, I'm sorry then.
- 09/12/2010 12:07:15 PM
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You seem to have no grasp of the difference between "politic" and "right"
- 09/12/2010 02:59:50 AM
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Re: You seem to have no grasp of the difference between "politic" and "right"
- 09/12/2010 09:26:21 AM
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That's not the dilema
- 09/12/2010 05:23:19 PM
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One of those few times where I completely agree with Cannoli. Give over Sidious. You're wrong.
- 09/12/2010 09:55:20 PM
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That's not what it's really about
- 10/12/2010 05:44:12 AM
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This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil.
- 09/12/2010 03:46:31 AM
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Re: This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil.
- 09/12/2010 09:40:09 AM
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Re: This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil.
- 09/12/2010 02:04:02 PM
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Re: This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil.
- 09/12/2010 11:26:40 AM
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One of those few times where I completely agree with fionwe1987. Give over Sidious. You're wrong.
- 10/12/2010 03:53:25 PM
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