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The main difference guttering flame Send a noteboard - 10/12/2010 05:50:43 AM

Well... you're correct, I guess. I really don't see much of a difference between the two tests, aside from some superficial ones.


Is that in the test for the shawl the Aes Sedai are participating in it. They are the one deciding what you'll face, not your subconscious fears.

The first tests you against yourself, the second tests you against your would-be peers.
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Nynaeve's stupidity and the test for Aes Sedai Sidious - 07/12/2010 08:27:05 PM 5120 Views
Just like all women. Great Lord of Chaos - 07/12/2010 09:15:12 PM 1636 Views
Way to totally misunderstand the chapter Icarium - 07/12/2010 09:39:08 PM 2148 Views
I second this redhand - 07/12/2010 10:10:24 PM 1839 Views
your bold is stuck. *NM* LadyLorraine - 07/12/2010 10:21:22 PM 810 Views
He BOLDLY seconded it... *NM* HyogaRott - 08/12/2010 03:04:33 PM 773 Views
which is quite excellent. I was just leting him know *NM* LadyLorraine - 08/12/2010 03:28:24 PM 675 Views
I think that statement says it all. LadyLorraine - 07/12/2010 10:19:50 PM 1799 Views
Thanks. That's exactly what I think. ˥ɐ ʎpu∀ɹ - 08/12/2010 08:29:28 AM 1709 Views
+1, well said *NM* Lord Haart - 08/12/2010 11:19:29 AM 744 Views
Agrees *NM* Onarishma - 09/12/2010 03:27:53 PM 1397 Views
Yes, the OP totally whiffed here. Nyn couldn't remember.. The Angry Druid - 11/12/2010 01:50:11 AM 1657 Views
On the whole, the test is innappropriate IMO DomA - 07/12/2010 09:40:08 PM 1902 Views
I agree with this entirely *NM* LadyLorraine - 07/12/2010 10:07:52 PM 733 Views
very well said *NM* darius_sedai - 07/12/2010 10:23:06 PM 664 Views
It's kind of a chicken and egg thing BlackAdder - 07/12/2010 11:13:19 PM 1593 Views
Re: It's kind of a chicken and egg thing DomA - 08/12/2010 12:37:20 AM 1898 Views
nice post Sidious - 08/12/2010 09:20:02 AM 1721 Views
Isn't it implied guttering flame - 08/12/2010 02:16:58 PM 1442 Views
no they were students together darius_sedai - 08/12/2010 05:33:17 PM 1406 Views
No, Lanfear was older than Lews guttering flame - 08/12/2010 07:21:45 PM 1610 Views
Where on earth did you get that from? darius_sedai - 08/12/2010 08:41:16 PM 1534 Views
Re: Where on earth did you get that from? DomA - 09/12/2010 10:27:20 AM 1593 Views
Re: Where on earth did you get that from? Sidious - 09/12/2010 03:56:32 PM 1685 Views
I always got the impression that they were together for quiet some time darius_sedai - 09/12/2010 04:34:23 PM 1603 Views
Re: I always got the impression that they were together for quiet some time moratcorlm - 09/12/2010 05:43:40 PM 1538 Views
I think skill with Saidar is easy enough to judge as it's a simple matter to see the skill darius_sedai - 08/12/2010 05:37:27 PM 1494 Views
I think the greens should have been on Nynaeve's side as well LadyLorraine - 08/12/2010 06:18:16 PM 1587 Views
Problem is they are Aes Sedai and thus more likley to be political rather than rational! *NM* darius_sedai - 08/12/2010 08:52:00 PM 1046 Views
too f'n true *NM* LadyLorraine - 09/12/2010 12:17:58 AM 728 Views
Re: nice post DomA - 09/12/2010 01:23:50 PM 1699 Views
On the matter of strength guttering flame - 09/12/2010 08:51:36 PM 1500 Views
Re: On the matter of strength Timthetrolloc - 10/12/2010 10:38:42 AM 1560 Views
Strength was "prized" in the AoL ... but lack of strength was not a negative darius_sedai - 12/12/2010 01:41:08 AM 1469 Views
The test is stupid and it was about time someone pointed it out Zeratul - 07/12/2010 10:29:38 PM 1490 Views
Channeling under duress IS necessary for ALL Aes Sedai Urbannen - 05/01/2011 12:04:53 AM 1679 Views
Well BlackAdder - 07/12/2010 11:03:38 PM 1547 Views
Yes. How dare she not conform with every other fucking mindless stupid WT Aes Sedai *NM* Variant - 07/12/2010 11:36:52 PM 867 Views
Status is not an end in itself. *NM* Chas - 07/12/2010 11:52:37 PM 736 Views
They're not really stupid... DomA - 08/12/2010 01:00:20 AM 1594 Views
Not saying they are. It's just that most AS that we've come across Chas - 08/12/2010 02:20:05 AM 1286 Views
They're constantly outsmarted by a teenage girl that has spent most of her life in a damn farm. Variant - 08/12/2010 10:32:50 AM 1551 Views
yeah because that's so realistic Sidious - 08/12/2010 12:17:29 PM 1475 Views
Egwene had everything handed to her on a silver platter. Variant - 08/12/2010 11:50:17 PM 1435 Views
Bah... DomA - 09/12/2010 10:56:24 AM 1592 Views
Nope, the Sitters were always stupid Zeratul - 09/12/2010 12:37:05 PM 1563 Views
I did not say all Aes Sedai are stupid, I said all WT Aes Sedai are stupid. Variant - 10/12/2010 09:19:52 AM 1550 Views
cause being rural automatically makes you dumb?..... *NM* Onarishma - 09/12/2010 05:34:11 PM 826 Views
It makes you uneducated moratcorlm - 09/12/2010 05:46:49 PM 1448 Views
You are not only wrong in your call, Fanatic-Templar - 08/12/2010 04:39:44 AM 1791 Views
Re: You are not only wrong in your call, Sidious - 08/12/2010 09:13:37 AM 1812 Views
if that is the purpose of the test LadyLorraine - 08/12/2010 01:34:45 PM 1499 Views
minor disagreement darius_sedai - 08/12/2010 05:27:51 PM 1569 Views
Yes, but you can be not-panicked and not calm of body LadyLorraine - 08/12/2010 06:38:56 PM 1434 Views
not really the same thing as what the AS are getting at though darius_sedai - 08/12/2010 09:02:05 PM 2045 Views
that's retarded, imo LadyLorraine - 09/12/2010 12:21:27 AM 1596 Views
About Elaida... Zeratul - 09/12/2010 12:29:21 PM 1567 Views
...no wonder the Aes Sedai are floundering LadyLorraine - 09/12/2010 01:43:42 PM 1320 Views
Oh it's totally stupid! darius_sedai - 09/12/2010 04:37:14 PM 1544 Views
No I know why she took the job. I just don't understand why she got it LadyLorraine - 09/12/2010 04:52:34 PM 1460 Views
I think Elaida just smarmed up at the right time, Morgase was very young then darius_sedai - 09/12/2010 05:52:29 PM 1594 Views
hmm. curse smarming, then *NM* LadyLorraine - 09/12/2010 07:47:26 PM 663 Views
As I recall... Fanatic-Templar - 10/12/2010 05:18:25 AM 1497 Views
Oh. Well, I'm sorry then. Fanatic-Templar - 08/12/2010 06:48:50 PM 1552 Views
I think it has already been established that the purpose of the test is to ensure that Chas - 08/12/2010 09:59:18 PM 1292 Views
Yeah, but how does that work? Fanatic-Templar - 08/12/2010 10:24:35 PM 1440 Views
Somewhere in the sub-conscious they know what they're doing is important to them. Chas - 09/12/2010 12:20:47 AM 1549 Views
Even so, it wouldn't work. Fanatic-Templar - 09/12/2010 03:32:55 AM 1480 Views
I think if this thread has established anything it's that the test is severely flawed. *NM* Chas - 09/12/2010 09:24:48 PM 733 Views
Another headless chicken example. Chas - 09/12/2010 12:30:02 AM 1457 Views
the headless chicken is just such a lovely metaphor for panic *NM* LadyLorraine - 09/12/2010 04:48:11 AM 681 Views
Re: Oh. Well, I'm sorry then. Sidious - 09/12/2010 12:07:15 PM 1525 Views
Re: Oh. Well, I'm sorry then. Fanatic-Templar - 10/12/2010 05:32:27 AM 1636 Views
The main difference guttering flame - 10/12/2010 05:50:43 AM 1489 Views
I'm not sure I agree. Skeeve the Great - 08/12/2010 12:17:12 PM 1560 Views
You seem to have no grasp of the difference between "politic" and "right" Cannoli - 09/12/2010 02:59:50 AM 1642 Views
I hate it when I love you just a little *NM* LadyLorraine - 09/12/2010 04:46:57 AM 704 Views
Re: You seem to have no grasp of the difference between "politic" and "right" Sidious - 09/12/2010 09:26:21 AM 1520 Views
That's not the dilema Cannoli - 09/12/2010 05:23:19 PM 1714 Views
One of those few times where I completely agree with Cannoli. Give over Sidious. You're wrong. fionwe1987 - 09/12/2010 09:55:20 PM 1475 Views
Bah! As if an opinion on the test's validity can be wrong *NM* Sidious - 10/12/2010 04:39:14 AM 1629 Views
That's not what it's really about guttering flame - 10/12/2010 05:44:12 AM 1436 Views
The paralells are not obvious to me... Cannoli - 15/12/2010 11:42:51 AM 1517 Views
More like guttering flame - 15/12/2010 01:26:40 PM 1440 Views
This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil. fionwe1987 - 09/12/2010 03:46:31 AM 1500 Views
Re: This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil. Sidious - 09/12/2010 09:40:09 AM 1544 Views
Re: This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil. fionwe1987 - 09/12/2010 02:04:02 PM 1856 Views
Re: This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil. DomA - 09/12/2010 11:26:40 AM 1611 Views
Agreed... fionwe1987 - 09/12/2010 01:54:09 PM 1525 Views
One of those few times where I completely agree with fionwe1987. Give over Sidious. You're wrong. Cannoli - 10/12/2010 03:53:25 PM 1608 Views
no, she did not disagree. slight difference LadyLorraine - 10/12/2010 05:53:54 PM 1426 Views
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