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Never said the remnant of the remnant was the whole of the Aiel darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 10/04/2012 05:45:47 PM
In fact I said the opposite. There are people like the Tuatha'an that are inclusive of the original Aiel population and those who ran away from Hold and Clan that have moved around to a variety of places. These people are not included in Aviendha's vision and could very well be who the remnant is in reference. You cannot make a blanket statement that Aviendha's vision is untrue because the remnant doesn't survive when we have no way of knowing what happened to a portion of the Aiel population.

My entire point has been the Aiel are larger than just the group living in the Waste and Aviendha's vision only speaks to that group and to the portion of that group that stood and opposed the Seanchan and lost... The Prophetic remnant could easily still be living The Way in some portion of that future and the Prophesy would have been fulfilled.
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Aviendha, the columns, and the Seanchan - 03/04/2012 04:29:31 PM 1806 Views
As far as I understand it, that future is impossible anyway. - 03/04/2012 07:30:52 PM 816 Views
Depends on how one defines Aiel - 04/04/2012 04:11:11 AM 764 Views
There are more than there were before. - 04/04/2012 07:03:27 AM 780 Views
But when the prophesy was made there many followers - 04/04/2012 10:10:54 AM 700 Views
The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. - 04/04/2012 06:28:47 PM 773 Views
Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. - 05/04/2012 01:41:23 AM 889 Views
Well that more than covers it *NM* - 05/04/2012 04:43:53 AM 379 Views
Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. - 05/04/2012 07:39:04 AM 788 Views
Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. - 05/04/2012 02:14:37 PM 967 Views
For the record I agree that the visions are not true either - 05/04/2012 02:25:47 PM 746 Views
Re: For the record I agree that the visions are not true either - 05/04/2012 11:36:53 PM 745 Views
Yes, I was thinking of the Aiel's suicidal traditions as well. - 05/04/2012 06:24:56 PM 677 Views
Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. - 06/04/2012 10:51:00 PM 716 Views
Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. - 06/04/2012 10:38:24 PM 963 Views
Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. - 07/04/2012 06:27:27 AM 652 Views
Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel. - 07/04/2012 07:23:03 PM 645 Views
So what you're saying... - 07/04/2012 10:07:59 PM 579 Views
What I am saying is that it's not a "pure bloodline" that makes one an Aiel - 08/04/2012 12:16:10 AM 648 Views
I never said it was. - 08/04/2012 12:43:26 AM 758 Views
Actually you did In your above post you speak of the Tinkers as not Aiel because they have been - 08/04/2012 06:09:01 AM 681 Views
No... - 08/04/2012 07:12:22 AM 799 Views
You have no evidence that the Tuath'an are mostly comprised of runaways etc - 08/04/2012 05:16:54 PM 759 Views
Re: You have no evidence that the Tuath'an are mostly comprised of runaways etc - 08/04/2012 06:43:27 PM 779 Views
Re: You have no evidence that the Tuath'an are mostly comprised of runaways etc - 08/04/2012 07:52:10 PM 600 Views
Thanks for that. - 09/04/2012 02:38:25 AM 553 Views
Red hair is double recessive ... Doesn't take much to eliminate it from the gene pool. There could - 08/04/2012 11:22:36 PM 740 Views
You are consistently making the same mistake. - 09/04/2012 02:45:46 AM 572 Views
They are the same thing. The remnant of a remnant are Aiel - 10/04/2012 05:04:55 AM 695 Views
No. They are not. - 10/04/2012 05:42:29 AM 598 Views
Never said the remnant of the remnant was the whole of the Aiel - 10/04/2012 05:45:47 PM 620 Views
You said that redefining the Aiel would allow Aviendha's vision to be possible. - 10/04/2012 06:53:51 PM 797 Views
No , I said there were many ways to interpret the statement based on how one defines Aiel - 10/04/2012 07:36:11 PM 574 Views
All of which is entirely irrelevant. - 10/04/2012 07:38:29 PM 578 Views
Actually it states he will save a remnant of a remnant - 10/04/2012 07:47:04 PM 663 Views
Re: Actually it states he will save a remnant of a remnant - 11/04/2012 01:40:36 AM 657 Views
That is what I just said - 14/04/2012 01:41:56 AM 615 Views
What is important about that? - 14/04/2012 04:35:55 AM 590 Views
The importance is that the prophesy says that Rand - 14/04/2012 06:06:31 PM 776 Views
So what you're saying is... - 14/04/2012 09:45:36 PM 630 Views
That's exactly it - 14/04/2012 11:21:25 PM 704 Views
Good. - 15/04/2012 02:01:14 AM 728 Views
He sets it in motion, thus his actions lead to it - 15/04/2012 02:55:13 PM 602 Views
Yes, but in that case, he is responsible for everything, ever. - 15/04/2012 05:29:31 PM 677 Views
We are interpreting Prophesy here ... Direct v. Indirect actions are what we are discussing - 15/04/2012 07:21:29 PM 606 Views
Re: We are interpreting Prophesy here ... Direct v. Indirect actions are what we are discussing - 17/04/2012 04:18:32 AM 750 Views
Depends on how you look at the Prophesy - 18/04/2012 01:45:23 PM 562 Views
Of course, but the point of my example was... - 17/04/2012 06:08:09 PM 569 Views
Where are you getting this happens over thousands of years? - 18/04/2012 01:47:42 PM 555 Views
Because that was the important part of that post. - 18/04/2012 05:28:10 PM 718 Views
Don't know when this became about winning - 19/04/2012 02:08:16 AM 498 Views
Re: I never said it was. - 18/04/2012 12:37:23 AM 745 Views
Re: As far as I understand it, that future is impossible anyway. - 04/04/2012 07:16:13 AM 807 Views
Re: As far as I understand it, that future is impossible anyway. - 06/04/2012 10:33:00 PM 696 Views
Thank you for that analysis. *NM* - 17/04/2012 12:36:08 AM 340 Views

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