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Re: But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. DomA Send a noteboard - 28/09/2009 07:53:46 PM
Discussing the content of leaked copies/illegally obtained copies is at the very least a very good way to get on the publisher's bad side and the publishers would be perfectly in their legal rights to take measures to have these reviews/spoilers removed from sites hosting them. I know it's the case for movie spoilers - I've signed enough NDA in two decades for the stuff I work on to know this - and I don't see why it wouldn't be the same for books that are protected by the same laws.


That's true. Although I think Tor do need to get a bit of a grip. This isn't the new JK Rowling or Dan Brown or Stephen King. Strictly enforcing street dates and refusing to let anyone review the book before it comes out, especially in the current situation with a new author taking over, is a brilliant way of reducing first-week sales until people wait to hear if it's any good or not (Jason's review not being regarded very well, it has to be said).


From what I heard it's a decision from Harriet enforced by Doherty to keep a blanket of secrecy over the content of TGS for fans who have waited so long for the book. I'm guessing for the rest, but I think the marketing folks and publicists have been asked to be imaginative to promote the book and work around the fact they can't do an ARC campaign etc. It might be a reason why they've released two chapters already, so everyone can make their own idea.

Tor didn't turn us down when we discussed with someone there the possibility to get the book a week or so before release, but the answer was something in the vein of "I'd love to if I can, but I'm not able to give you a definitive answer on this yet.". And we didn't ask, they're the ones who reached to us about our TGS coverage.

It's not a matter of not knowing if they'll even get the book in time, they were supposed to have the first copies very soon, if not already.

I thought that's what we were talking about: did we want reviews (spoilery or otherwise) a couple of days before the book was coming out?


From what I understand, it's more than many people claim they have or are about to have the book and want to post reviews soon.
From all I've heard so far, it's not very likely - or not legit review copies anyway.

that the book will be on shelves anything up to a week before its official date, so reviews and spoilers will start appearing then anyway.


It's more likely to happen in the UK perhaps? I don't recall what happened before. From the little I know of the US/Canadian distribution system, it's not so likely unless there's a mistake, because except for exceptional releases they need to work a lot on (say, like Potter and Brown), the chains tend to keep the books at central storage until they're about ready to put them on the shelves in the stores, a day, two before street dates. It's more frequent here to have the opposite and some bookstores missing the street date because the get the books so late that if there's a mistake in shipment they need a day to correct it. I got 75% off and 30% off on another book for quite a few (5 or 6) titles like this in the last years - it's what the book chain I shop at do when they miss a street date. Not being a fool, I started shopping more often on release days.
This message last edited by DomA on 28/09/2009 at 07:58:09 PM
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Do you guys want pre-release reviews on this board? - 20/09/2009 08:40:03 AM 1506 Views
Yes. - 20/09/2009 11:56:22 AM 859 Views
Sorry wrong place. *NM* - 20/09/2009 05:31:27 PM 369 Views
Yes - 20/09/2009 01:12:18 PM 752 Views
No. *NM* - 20/09/2009 01:26:48 PM 382 Views
No, I prefer to see them after the 27th. - 20/09/2009 01:42:38 PM 651 Views
They don't have to read them if they don't want to *NM* - 21/09/2009 01:54:30 AM 373 Views
NO! *NM* - 20/09/2009 02:05:47 PM 423 Views
No *NM* - 20/09/2009 02:22:15 PM 471 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 03:08:41 PM 420 Views
Yes please! *NM* - 20/09/2009 03:40:41 PM 433 Views
NO *NM* - 20/09/2009 04:16:55 PM 381 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 04:17:32 PM 416 Views
Re: Do you guys want pre-release reviews on this board? - 20/09/2009 05:33:49 PM 654 Views
I just hate getting interupted. even if I'm at work *NM* - 21/09/2009 06:12:13 PM 374 Views
Sorry wrong place *NM* - 21/09/2009 06:12:54 PM 385 Views
We need them to maintain the spike in activity. - 20/09/2009 05:34:14 PM 749 Views
YES. *NM* - 20/09/2009 05:44:48 PM 392 Views
Can anyone who voted no explain why? - 20/09/2009 05:51:51 PM 685 Views
Yes, why not? - 20/09/2009 06:18:42 PM 946 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 06:30:54 PM 359 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 06:39:34 PM 362 Views
Yes. I see no reason not to. *NM* - 20/09/2009 07:08:47 PM 370 Views
No, I'll just read them and then go regretting it *NM* - 20/09/2009 07:18:27 PM 357 Views
Yes! - 20/09/2009 07:30:59 PM 658 Views
yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 07:46:37 PM 425 Views
Yes - 20/09/2009 08:34:03 PM 590 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 10:08:42 PM 374 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 10:17:51 PM 375 Views
Yes- Give ppl the option to see the reviews *NM* - 21/09/2009 12:03:27 AM 364 Views
Yes *NM* - 21/09/2009 12:33:13 AM 336 Views
I vote yes. - 21/09/2009 04:21:28 AM 683 Views
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Yes - 21/09/2009 09:32:56 AM 646 Views
Yes. Don't click the link if you don't want to read it. *NM* - 21/09/2009 02:39:16 PM 402 Views
No - 21/09/2009 06:15:19 PM 729 Views
I think you missread the rules... - 21/09/2009 08:24:22 PM 1194 Views
so you want to give the admins all kinds of extra work? - 22/09/2009 02:16:56 AM 692 Views
I'm strongly against it - 22/09/2009 05:06:13 AM 823 Views
I hadn't thought about all that, you should have made some kind of pros and cons list - 22/09/2009 08:53:39 AM 775 Views
Re: I'm strongly against it - 22/09/2009 11:45:26 AM 693 Views
So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 12:03:16 PM 666 Views
Re: So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 12:16:57 PM 829 Views
Re: So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 12:42:55 PM 1065 Views
Re: So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 01:20:58 PM 658 Views
Re: I'm strongly against it - 22/09/2009 02:39:55 PM 850 Views
As I mentioned elsewhere - 22/09/2009 02:51:00 PM 565 Views
I had no idea about these legalities. - 22/09/2009 05:44:18 PM 643 Views
Re: I had no idea about these legalities. - 22/09/2009 06:25:20 PM 563 Views
Good to know. - 22/09/2009 10:19:57 PM 753 Views
I'm shitfitng to no too. Hope more people change their votes. - 22/09/2009 10:34:22 PM 900 Views
Re: Good to know. - 22/09/2009 11:01:35 PM 676 Views
Interesting - 23/09/2009 12:16:38 AM 773 Views
How much is that infamous COT review to blame? - 24/09/2009 05:01:29 AM 553 Views
Well, Rand IS a transvestite - not exactly a spoiler anymore. - 22/09/2009 08:29:12 AM 665 Views
No, no, no, no, no! *NM* - 21/09/2009 06:31:22 PM 340 Views
You're going to ban/forbid spoiler filled reviews? Weak. - 22/09/2009 08:26:15 AM 618 Views
Ever hear of Napster? - 22/09/2009 12:11:02 PM 621 Views
But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 23/09/2009 12:36:35 AM 742 Views
Sounds right to me. - 23/09/2009 12:27:57 PM 836 Views
Thank you for the clarification. - 23/09/2009 07:04:13 PM 667 Views
Re: But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 23/09/2009 07:33:11 PM 892 Views
Re: But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 27/09/2009 02:41:11 AM 709 Views
Re: But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 28/09/2009 07:53:46 PM 629 Views
Baloney. The two are not related at all. *NM* - 23/09/2009 07:00:47 PM 408 Views
Yes, as long as no-spoiler policy is employed. *NM* - 23/09/2009 12:04:41 AM 353 Views
No *NM* - 25/09/2009 07:05:03 AM 367 Views

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