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AMOL Prologue : Analysis of Forsaken section *major spoilers* Sidious Send a noteboard - 19/09/2012 05:47:21 PM

I downloaded the Prologue for AMOL, which you can all now purchase at Dragonmount.

In summary, the following has happened...

1. The chapter is from Moghedien's PoV where she goes to meet with the other Forsaken in a world made up by Moridin that is only half TAR, and the other half altered reality.

2. Moghedien has been freed of her captivity by Moridin and wears the mindtrap around her neck. She is paranoid about its safety.

3. Moghedien says that Cyndane is still Moridin's captive and she notices the Mindtrap around his neck. Cyndane is not at the meeting, nor does she arrive later. She confirms that Lanfear had been captive of the Finns and that they had fed on her ability. Moridin rescued her and killed her, both to rescue her and as punishment.

4. Demandred arrives, and as usual complains that he has been summoned. He notices that Moghedien has been freed. Moghedien once again confirms that she doesn't know what he is up to, and the chapter does not reveal where he is or whom he commands. Moghedien states that Demandred is held in very high esteem by the Dark One.

5. An old and very ugly woman joins them who Moghedien doesn't recognize and who is very strong in the Power. They gasp when they realize that it is Graendal, who is now presumably reborn as Hessalam, meaning 'without forgiveness'. Moghedien laughs at her.

6. Moridin confirms that they are all that remain of the Chosen. Mazrim Taim joins them and Moridin states that he has been raised to Chosen. Hesselam is scandalized but Moridin silences her.

7. Moridin assigns Moghedien to assist Demandred in preparation for war, and that if she complains he will make her feel pain like she has never known. Moghedien sulks.

Overall it was a very informative chapter, if you think about it. We now know that none of the Chosen will make a return. It's safe to say that Aginor, Sammael and Mesaana will not resurface and that there are five primary Forsaken for the end battle (with Taim now officially one of the Forsaken).

Moghedien is free of the mindtrap and she explains what happened to Lanfear in a few lines, but also in full. Lanfear is still not free of her slavery and torture. It seems as if Graendal was killed by SH, or after he dealt with her and placed in an old and ugly body. That, or some complex illusion is on her, though I doubt it. Graendal seems to have retained her character and power, and isn't a wreck like Mesaana was after SH dealt with her.

Demandred remains as mysterious as ever. There is even the insinuation that Moridin himself doesn't know what Demandred is up to - and Demandred says that he will discover in due time and be shocked at what he's accomplished.

As a final personal note, I find the style pretty bad. You will be stunned at the constant repetition of facts throughout these chapters. Yes, we hear again that Demandred has a hooked nose and is handsome. We hear again about the mystery of Cyndane, how crazy Ishamael was and how Demandred hates Lews Therin. It will leave you pretty nauseous if you think about how little we need to be reminded of these facts again and again. I didn't enjoy the style and found it almost amateur, if that isn't too offensive to say. It didn't remind me of any of the previous Forsaken chapters written by Jordan. Some of the metaphors are very weak and the Forsaken personalities are poorly captured.
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AMOL Prologue : Analysis of Forsaken section *major spoilers* - 19/09/2012 05:47:21 PM 3038 Views
You left out that Taim and Demandred have met before. - 19/09/2012 06:19:01 PM 1280 Views
Part of me keeps screaming Logain, though that can't be right... - 20/09/2012 12:14:00 PM 1235 Views
I thought of Logain as well... - 20/09/2012 06:10:58 PM 1097 Views
We have our answer as to why Cyndane and Moiraine are reduced in power. - 20/09/2012 05:14:01 AM 1174 Views
It was spelled out before. - 20/09/2012 05:25:05 AM 1054 Views
And some of us guessed that's what happened, we just didn't have evidence. *NM* - 20/09/2012 12:04:18 PM 616 Views
Nor a lot of support for the idea... - 22/09/2012 06:28:14 PM 1039 Views
Really? Seemed like the obvious series of events - 23/09/2012 02:32:35 PM 989 Views
I know... - 23/09/2012 05:30:42 PM 1035 Views
I'm not so sure - 24/09/2012 05:32:50 PM 997 Views
Why question it? - 25/09/2012 01:40:39 AM 908 Views
Re: Why question it? - 25/09/2012 06:12:32 AM 863 Views
Six Chosen... - 20/09/2012 05:19:17 AM 1201 Views
It's fan fiction, but it's cannon fan fiction - 20/09/2012 06:55:18 AM 1159 Views
Demandred - the wasted Forsaken - 20/09/2012 08:14:15 PM 1078 Views
RJ's writing was bad. Sanderson's is far worse. *NM* - 21/09/2012 06:19:04 AM 625 Views
Re: Demandred - the wasted Forsaken - 22/09/2012 07:23:19 PM 964 Views
Talmanes - 23/09/2012 12:42:27 AM 1382 Views
Re: Talmanes - 02/10/2012 03:27:05 PM 834 Views
Two interesting Forsaken issues you haven't raised - 22/09/2012 06:21:34 PM 1239 Views
Seems to me that Taim himself was behind going to Rand - 23/09/2012 02:53:32 AM 966 Views
Re: Seems to me that Taim himself was behind going to Rand - 23/09/2012 05:50:48 PM 961 Views
I have to wonder at Hessalam - 23/09/2012 01:20:13 PM 1167 Views
Re: I have to wonder at Hessalam - 23/09/2012 06:52:10 PM 1216 Views
Re: I have to wonder at Hessalam - 24/09/2012 05:18:29 PM 1415 Views
I don't think she's old. Just really really really ugly! - 25/09/2012 03:22:56 AM 898 Views
Re: I don't think she's old. Just really really really ugly! - 25/09/2012 06:13:51 AM 945 Views
So based on this new info, what is Demandred's big game? Shara or Isle of Madmen back on the table? - 23/09/2012 08:01:03 PM 977 Views
Re: So based on this new info, what is Demandred's big game? - 23/09/2012 08:52:48 PM 1115 Views
Interesting... - 23/09/2012 09:06:18 PM 937 Views
Re: Interesting... - 23/09/2012 11:31:31 PM 1131 Views
Just one comment.. - 23/09/2012 11:53:09 PM 1599 Views
If I had to take a guess right now I'd say he has been setting up various Shadow armies thought the - 23/09/2012 09:30:34 PM 940 Views
I think at the very least he has recreated the One-and-Eighty male channelers from the AOL... - 23/09/2012 09:34:56 PM 1028 Views
As I said he will almost certainly have Channelers - 23/09/2012 09:47:53 PM 1155 Views
All he needed to do was train 10 guys personally.. - 23/09/2012 09:51:46 PM 838 Views
It took Taim nearly a year to train a dozen men to a place where they could teach - 23/09/2012 10:00:40 PM 797 Views
The world is 25,000 miles by 25,000 miles in size... - 23/09/2012 10:15:22 PM 894 Views
That is just far fetched ... I think I would laugh out loud if that is the case - 23/09/2012 10:43:37 PM 906 Views
Direct quote from Demandred refutes this... - 23/09/2012 10:49:10 PM 874 Views
Demanded is much more like Mesaana in his ways - 23/09/2012 10:55:00 PM 896 Views
Re: Demanded is much more like Mesaana in his ways - 23/09/2012 11:36:54 PM 894 Views
Not really - 24/09/2012 12:31:48 AM 970 Views
"My rule is secure." Could Demandred be ruling an entire Mirror World? - 23/09/2012 10:43:51 PM 998 Views
I can certainly something like this happening - 23/09/2012 10:50:35 PM 792 Views
I'm not sure it's possible... - 24/09/2012 03:02:26 AM 930 Views
I think ... - 24/09/2012 05:36:38 PM 922 Views
The changes in Moghedien - 25/09/2012 03:29:15 AM 786 Views
I believe she commented on Graendal's strength, comparing it to Nynaeve or something? - 25/09/2012 11:07:24 PM 926 Views
Well.. - 25/09/2012 11:15:21 PM 803 Views
Thanks for the quote, but reading that, it kind of implies the opposite, to me... - 25/09/2012 11:35:53 PM 1119 Views
Hmmm.... - 26/09/2012 12:00:33 AM 870 Views
Hehe, that old argument again. - 26/09/2012 12:09:25 AM 762 Views
Yes. - 26/09/2012 12:58:03 AM 762 Views
I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength - 26/09/2012 04:11:16 AM 843 Views
Re: I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength - 26/09/2012 08:53:02 AM 814 Views
Well... - 26/09/2012 09:09:38 AM 778 Views
Re: Well... - 26/09/2012 10:17:03 AM 911 Views
Nice speculation. I like that type of calculation. - 26/09/2012 10:59:43 AM 831 Views
Re: Well... - 27/09/2012 03:12:06 AM 788 Views
Re: Well... - 27/09/2012 08:17:07 AM 766 Views
Re: I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength - 27/09/2012 03:00:04 AM 845 Views
Re: I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength - 27/09/2012 07:23:11 AM 825 Views
Actually...... - 26/09/2012 02:30:00 AM 914 Views
Agree with this.. - 26/09/2012 06:12:34 AM 736 Views
Not sure that's completely true.. - 26/09/2012 06:42:51 AM 781 Views
Re: Not sure that's completely true.. - 26/09/2012 03:02:41 PM 933 Views
This is what I've been saying for years! - 26/09/2012 05:48:01 PM 670 Views
Re: Not sure that's completely true.. - 27/09/2012 03:17:00 AM 811 Views
Probably something like this - 26/09/2012 08:36:40 AM 803 Views
Probably true, but maybe a hint from a Sanderson interview should be considered here... - 26/09/2012 08:56:32 AM 769 Views
Re: Probably true, but maybe a hint from a Sanderson interview should be considered here... - 26/09/2012 10:01:08 AM 721 Views
Graendal almost has to be Stronger than Nynaeve - 26/09/2012 05:57:35 PM 973 Views
One thing about that... - 27/09/2012 02:58:56 AM 876 Views
Possible, but I find it unlikely - 27/09/2012 06:16:56 AM 779 Views
The reason I think that... - 27/09/2012 06:25:48 AM 810 Views
I always assumed Nynaeve at the top was a list he later revised as he decided to bring in - 27/09/2012 06:39:35 AM 879 Views
Of course that's the correct answer, yes. - 27/09/2012 08:12:45 AM 954 Views
I wasn't making a Strength comparison ... I was commenting on her lack of cowardice - 26/09/2012 03:45:36 AM 847 Views
Re: I wasn't making a Strength comparison ... I was commenting on her lack of cowardice - 26/09/2012 05:30:36 PM 919 Views
That is the question I was getting at - 26/09/2012 06:00:03 PM 886 Views
Re: That is the question I was getting at - 26/09/2012 07:01:34 PM 897 Views

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