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Re: No she doesn't. She focuses on Graendal's punishment being about her looks Sidious Send a noteboard - 25/09/2012 07:53:47 PM
Moghedien made up her opinion according to what she heard from Moridin. She wasn't there with him and I doubt he mouthed off to Moghedien over a cup of tea...


Actually, she spoke of finding out a secret. It does not sound like she was simply told about it. Maybe she overheard Moridin bragging abou this to Cyndane in TAR as she was answering his summons or something. Maybe she somehow managed to get it out of Cyndane, but that's more doubtful.

In any case, it doesn't matter much. This is the last book and obviously a plot device to tell us the final missing piece of what happened to Cyndane (what could remain is a reflection from Moridin about Cyndane, or from Cyndane about Moridin that would tell us more of their grudge. As I said, it's pretty obvious Moridin hates Cyndane, because he's the one she challenged in TDR, and he lost and died, and she went on triumphant to go on with the fiasco she called a plan).

We could ask Sanderson, but I'm pretty sure we have to take what Moghedien thought of those events at face value unless there's more to come, but I doubt it.



Well she spoke of Cyndane's identity as the secret. I'm going to stop splitting hairs now. I merely had a micro theory that Moghedien was trying to tie it all together but we don't really know if she knows for certain why Moridin killed Lanfear. He didn't kill Moghedien for instance, so thats worth noting. Its possible he had to kill Lanfear to free her, but I will desist.
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No she doesn't. She focuses on Graendal's punishment being about her looks - 25/09/2012 04:10:04 PM 1496 Views
Re: No she doesn't. She focuses on Graendal's punishment being about her looks - 25/09/2012 06:41:13 PM 1428 Views
Re: No she doesn't. She focuses on Graendal's punishment being about her looks - 25/09/2012 07:21:03 PM 1411 Views
Re: No she doesn't. She focuses on Graendal's punishment being about her looks - 25/09/2012 07:53:47 PM 1188 Views
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Hmmm.... - 26/09/2012 12:00:33 AM 1237 Views
Hehe, that old argument again. - 26/09/2012 12:09:25 AM 1162 Views
Yes. - 26/09/2012 12:58:03 AM 1130 Views
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Re: I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength - 26/09/2012 08:53:02 AM 1187 Views
Well... - 26/09/2012 09:09:38 AM 1145 Views
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Re: Well... - 27/09/2012 03:12:06 AM 1193 Views
Re: Well... - 27/09/2012 08:17:07 AM 1147 Views
Re: I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength - 27/09/2012 03:00:04 AM 1215 Views
Re: I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength - 27/09/2012 07:23:11 AM 1222 Views
Actually...... - 26/09/2012 02:30:00 AM 1303 Views
Agree with this.. - 26/09/2012 06:12:34 AM 1098 Views
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Re: Not sure that's completely true.. - 27/09/2012 03:17:00 AM 1210 Views
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