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Re: I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 27/09/2012 03:00:04 AM
And Nynaeve is obviously right there with any of them. Lanfear is obviously abnormal in her raw strength, but that does automatically mean that every time a female senses another's strength they must compare to Lanfears level. Graendal notes Cyndane is stronger than she is, and comments on how rare that is, but she doesn't worry about it all that much which tells us Cyndane is not that much more powerful, and her assumed lack of skill (from Graendal's POV assuming Cyndane is a modern day Channeler). Per Sanderson Nynaeve is similar to Semirhage, who Graendal thinks was more dangerous than Demandred. That alone tells me Nynaeve's Stength would make any of the Forsaken consider her a potential threat just as Moghedien did.


I think the difference in power between all the Forsaken (except Moghedien) is less than 10%. Moghedien is probably significantly weaker. But I think any Forsakn could challenge another openly and the outcome would be unpredictable. That is why Graendal/Sammael is difficult for Moridin to predict.

I don't know about that. Her lumpig herself with Demandred, Moridin, Graendal and Cyndane when talking about Taim's strength is weird. It indicates to me that while she may be weakest of the Foresaken, she isn't so far away that there'e many intervening levels where she may expect current Age people to fall.
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AMOL Prologue : Analysis of Forsaken section *major spoilers* - 19/09/2012 05:47:21 PM 3524 Views
You left out that Taim and Demandred have met before. - 19/09/2012 06:19:01 PM 1741 Views
Part of me keeps screaming Logain, though that can't be right... - 20/09/2012 12:14:00 PM 1688 Views
I thought of Logain as well... - 20/09/2012 06:10:58 PM 1556 Views
We have our answer as to why Cyndane and Moiraine are reduced in power. - 20/09/2012 05:14:01 AM 1671 Views
It was spelled out before. - 20/09/2012 05:25:05 AM 1483 Views
And some of us guessed that's what happened, we just didn't have evidence. *NM* - 20/09/2012 12:04:18 PM 852 Views
Nor a lot of support for the idea... - 22/09/2012 06:28:14 PM 1491 Views
Really? Seemed like the obvious series of events - 23/09/2012 02:32:35 PM 1440 Views
I know... - 23/09/2012 05:30:42 PM 1517 Views
I'm not so sure - 24/09/2012 05:32:50 PM 1486 Views
Why question it? - 25/09/2012 01:40:39 AM 1319 Views
Re: Why question it? - 25/09/2012 06:12:32 AM 1315 Views
Six Chosen... - 20/09/2012 05:19:17 AM 1657 Views
It's fan fiction, but it's cannon fan fiction - 20/09/2012 06:55:18 AM 1700 Views
Demandred - the wasted Forsaken - 20/09/2012 08:14:15 PM 1553 Views
RJ's writing was bad. Sanderson's is far worse. *NM* - 21/09/2012 06:19:04 AM 854 Views
Re: Demandred - the wasted Forsaken - 22/09/2012 07:23:19 PM 1432 Views
Talmanes - 23/09/2012 12:42:27 AM 1859 Views
Re: Talmanes - 02/10/2012 03:27:05 PM 1271 Views
Two interesting Forsaken issues you haven't raised - 22/09/2012 06:21:34 PM 1676 Views
Seems to me that Taim himself was behind going to Rand - 23/09/2012 02:53:32 AM 1477 Views
Re: Seems to me that Taim himself was behind going to Rand - 23/09/2012 05:50:48 PM 1474 Views
I think I rebel against this thought process because of the Taimandred Red Herring - 23/09/2012 06:35:19 PM 1433 Views
Re: I think I rebel against this thought process because of the Taimandred Red Herring - 23/09/2012 07:46:59 PM 1599 Views
The first time we hear about Transmigration is in LOC - 23/09/2012 08:50:10 PM 1579 Views
Why was Ishamael reinstantiated as Nae'blis after his death? - 02/10/2012 10:17:03 PM 1442 Views
I have to wonder at Hessalam - 23/09/2012 01:20:13 PM 1745 Views
Re: I have to wonder at Hessalam - 23/09/2012 06:52:10 PM 1726 Views
Re: I have to wonder at Hessalam - 24/09/2012 05:18:29 PM 1834 Views
I don't think she's old. Just really really really ugly! - 25/09/2012 03:22:56 AM 1323 Views
Re: I don't think she's old. Just really really really ugly! - 25/09/2012 06:13:51 AM 1402 Views
So based on this new info, what is Demandred's big game? Shara or Isle of Madmen back on the table? - 23/09/2012 08:01:03 PM 1459 Views
Re: So based on this new info, what is Demandred's big game? - 23/09/2012 08:52:48 PM 1541 Views
Interesting... - 23/09/2012 09:06:18 PM 1334 Views
Re: Interesting... - 23/09/2012 11:31:31 PM 1586 Views
Just one comment.. - 23/09/2012 11:53:09 PM 2039 Views
If I had to take a guess right now I'd say he has been setting up various Shadow armies thought the - 23/09/2012 09:30:34 PM 1367 Views
I think at the very least he has recreated the One-and-Eighty male channelers from the AOL... - 23/09/2012 09:34:56 PM 1446 Views
As I said he will almost certainly have Channelers - 23/09/2012 09:47:53 PM 1639 Views
All he needed to do was train 10 guys personally.. - 23/09/2012 09:51:46 PM 1287 Views
It took Taim nearly a year to train a dozen men to a place where they could teach - 23/09/2012 10:00:40 PM 1252 Views
The world is 25,000 miles by 25,000 miles in size... - 23/09/2012 10:15:22 PM 1365 Views
That is just far fetched ... I think I would laugh out loud if that is the case - 23/09/2012 10:43:37 PM 1358 Views
Direct quote from Demandred refutes this... - 23/09/2012 10:49:10 PM 1363 Views
Demanded is much more like Mesaana in his ways - 23/09/2012 10:55:00 PM 1336 Views
Re: Demanded is much more like Mesaana in his ways - 23/09/2012 11:36:54 PM 1385 Views
Not really - 24/09/2012 12:31:48 AM 1405 Views
"My rule is secure." Could Demandred be ruling an entire Mirror World? - 23/09/2012 10:43:51 PM 1451 Views
I can certainly something like this happening - 23/09/2012 10:50:35 PM 1232 Views
I'm not sure it's possible... - 24/09/2012 03:02:26 AM 1394 Views
I think ... - 24/09/2012 05:36:38 PM 1340 Views
The changes in Moghedien - 25/09/2012 03:29:15 AM 1230 Views
I believe she commented on Graendal's strength, comparing it to Nynaeve or something? - 25/09/2012 11:07:24 PM 1372 Views
Well.. - 25/09/2012 11:15:21 PM 1255 Views
Thanks for the quote, but reading that, it kind of implies the opposite, to me... - 25/09/2012 11:35:53 PM 1559 Views
Hmmm.... - 26/09/2012 12:00:33 AM 1300 Views
Hehe, that old argument again. - 26/09/2012 12:09:25 AM 1226 Views
Yes. - 26/09/2012 12:58:03 AM 1195 Views
I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength - 26/09/2012 04:11:16 AM 1371 Views
Re: I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength - 26/09/2012 08:53:02 AM 1248 Views
Well... - 26/09/2012 09:09:38 AM 1209 Views
Re: Well... - 26/09/2012 10:17:03 AM 1357 Views
Nice speculation. I like that type of calculation. - 26/09/2012 10:59:43 AM 1316 Views
Re: Well... - 27/09/2012 03:12:06 AM 1253 Views
Re: Well... - 27/09/2012 08:17:07 AM 1209 Views
Re: I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength - 27/09/2012 03:00:04 AM 1285 Views
Re: I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength - 27/09/2012 07:23:11 AM 1295 Views
Actually...... - 26/09/2012 02:30:00 AM 1365 Views
Agree with this.. - 26/09/2012 06:12:34 AM 1153 Views
Not sure that's completely true.. - 26/09/2012 06:42:51 AM 1208 Views
Re: Not sure that's completely true.. - 26/09/2012 03:02:41 PM 1392 Views
This is what I've been saying for years! - 26/09/2012 05:48:01 PM 1087 Views
Re: Not sure that's completely true.. - 27/09/2012 03:17:00 AM 1261 Views
Probably something like this - 26/09/2012 08:36:40 AM 1319 Views
Probably true, but maybe a hint from a Sanderson interview should be considered here... - 26/09/2012 08:56:32 AM 1257 Views
Re: Probably true, but maybe a hint from a Sanderson interview should be considered here... - 26/09/2012 10:01:08 AM 1179 Views
Graendal almost has to be Stronger than Nynaeve - 26/09/2012 05:57:35 PM 1410 Views
One thing about that... - 27/09/2012 02:58:56 AM 1293 Views
Possible, but I find it unlikely - 27/09/2012 06:16:56 AM 1207 Views
The reason I think that... - 27/09/2012 06:25:48 AM 1268 Views
I always assumed Nynaeve at the top was a list he later revised as he decided to bring in - 27/09/2012 06:39:35 AM 1336 Views
Of course that's the correct answer, yes. - 27/09/2012 08:12:45 AM 1385 Views
I wasn't making a Strength comparison ... I was commenting on her lack of cowardice - 26/09/2012 03:45:36 AM 1267 Views
Re: I wasn't making a Strength comparison ... I was commenting on her lack of cowardice - 26/09/2012 05:30:36 PM 1387 Views
That is the question I was getting at - 26/09/2012 06:00:03 PM 1313 Views
Re: That is the question I was getting at - 26/09/2012 07:01:34 PM 1348 Views

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