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I'm disappointed after waiting a week for a new post in the Forsaken thread, it's about Talmanes! Shannow Send a noteboard - 02/10/2012 09:46:48 PM
I'm inclined to give BS a break on the battle scenes. RJ experienced war first hand and BS didn't. The most vivid and interesting books written about war were written by combat vets. Someone who has not experienced it just doesn't have a real clue.


When I saw the post count had gone up to 96 I dashed over here, only to see it's about Talmanes's battle scene, and not a continuation on the debate of the Forsaken strength relationships.

Not your fault, but I just had to share my frustrations anyway.
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AMOL Prologue : Analysis of Forsaken section *major spoilers* Sidious - 19/09/2012 05:47:21 PM 3486 Views
You left out that Taim and Demandred have met before. Narg - 19/09/2012 06:19:01 PM 1707 Views
Part of me keeps screaming Logain, though that can't be right... Cannoli - 20/09/2012 12:14:00 PM 1655 Views
I thought of Logain as well... Narg - 20/09/2012 06:10:58 PM 1527 Views
We have our answer as to why Cyndane and Moiraine are reduced in power. Nargs - 20/09/2012 05:14:01 AM 1644 Views
It was spelled out before. Terez - 20/09/2012 05:25:05 AM 1456 Views
And some of us guessed that's what happened, we just didn't have evidence. *NM* Cannoli - 20/09/2012 12:04:18 PM 836 Views
Nor a lot of support for the idea... DomA - 22/09/2012 06:28:14 PM 1461 Views
Really? Seemed like the obvious series of events darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 02:32:35 PM 1403 Views
I know... DomA - 23/09/2012 05:30:42 PM 1478 Views
I'm not so sure Sidious - 24/09/2012 05:32:50 PM 1449 Views
Why question it? darius_sedai - 25/09/2012 01:40:39 AM 1288 Views
Re: Why question it? Sidious - 25/09/2012 06:12:32 AM 1291 Views
No she doesn't. She focuses on Graendal's punishment being about her looks darius_sedai - 25/09/2012 04:10:04 PM 1525 Views
Re: No she doesn't. She focuses on Graendal's punishment being about her looks Sidious - 25/09/2012 06:41:13 PM 1453 Views
Re: No she doesn't. She focuses on Graendal's punishment being about her looks DomA - 25/09/2012 07:21:03 PM 1438 Views
Re: No she doesn't. She focuses on Graendal's punishment being about her looks Sidious - 25/09/2012 07:53:47 PM 1216 Views
Six Chosen... entyti - 20/09/2012 05:19:17 AM 1623 Views
It's fan fiction, but it's cannon fan fiction The Wandering Gambler - 20/09/2012 06:55:18 AM 1666 Views
Demandred - the wasted Forsaken Tom - 20/09/2012 08:14:15 PM 1523 Views
RJ's writing was bad. Sanderson's is far worse. *NM* Marshall - 21/09/2012 06:19:04 AM 833 Views
Re: Demandred - the wasted Forsaken DomA - 22/09/2012 07:23:19 PM 1398 Views
Talmanes DomA - 23/09/2012 12:42:27 AM 1831 Views
I think you once again overestimate my appreciation of the series. Tom - 25/09/2012 02:33:34 PM 1372 Views
Re: Talmanes echooff - 02/10/2012 03:27:05 PM 1247 Views
I'm disappointed after waiting a week for a new post in the Forsaken thread, it's about Talmanes! Shannow - 02/10/2012 09:46:48 PM 1421 Views
Two interesting Forsaken issues you haven't raised DomA - 22/09/2012 06:21:34 PM 1640 Views
Seems to me that Taim himself was behind going to Rand darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 02:53:32 AM 1452 Views
Re: Seems to me that Taim himself was behind going to Rand DomA - 23/09/2012 05:50:48 PM 1442 Views
I think I rebel against this thought process because of the Taimandred Red Herring darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 06:35:19 PM 1399 Views
Re: I think I rebel against this thought process because of the Taimandred Red Herring DomA - 23/09/2012 07:46:59 PM 1565 Views
The first time we hear about Transmigration is in LOC darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 08:50:10 PM 1545 Views
Why was Ishamael reinstantiated as Nae'blis after his death? Marshall - 02/10/2012 10:17:03 PM 1420 Views
I have to wonder at Hessalam darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 01:20:13 PM 1645 Views
Re: I have to wonder at Hessalam DomA - 23/09/2012 06:52:10 PM 1691 Views
I agree that B-Sand seems to have inserted Graendal into the Slayer plot line in TOM darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 07:17:15 PM 1351 Views
Re: I agree that B-Sand seems to have inserted Graendal into the Slayer plot line in TOM DomA - 23/09/2012 08:19:02 PM 1346 Views
EDIT ... Demandred has only had about 9 months (according to wotchron) darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 09:13:44 PM 1465 Views
Re: I have to wonder at Hessalam Sidious - 24/09/2012 05:18:29 PM 1809 Views
I don't think she's old. Just really really really ugly! darius_sedai - 25/09/2012 03:22:56 AM 1286 Views
Re: I don't think she's old. Just really really really ugly! Sidious - 25/09/2012 06:13:51 AM 1362 Views
So based on this new info, what is Demandred's big game? Shara or Isle of Madmen back on the table? Shannow - 23/09/2012 08:01:03 PM 1428 Views
Re: So based on this new info, what is Demandred's big game? DomA - 23/09/2012 08:52:48 PM 1507 Views
Interesting... Shannow - 23/09/2012 09:06:18 PM 1307 Views
Re: Interesting... DomA - 23/09/2012 11:31:31 PM 1550 Views
I think we saw them during the attack on Maradon. The Portal Stone attack seems less likely darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 11:41:42 PM 1307 Views
Just one comment.. Shannow - 23/09/2012 11:53:09 PM 2009 Views
If I had to take a guess right now I'd say he has been setting up various Shadow armies thought the darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 09:30:34 PM 1339 Views
I think at the very least he has recreated the One-and-Eighty male channelers from the AOL... Shannow - 23/09/2012 09:34:56 PM 1418 Views
As I said he will almost certainly have Channelers darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 09:47:53 PM 1612 Views
All he needed to do was train 10 guys personally.. Shannow - 23/09/2012 09:51:46 PM 1239 Views
It took Taim nearly a year to train a dozen men to a place where they could teach darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 10:00:40 PM 1220 Views
The world is 25,000 miles by 25,000 miles in size... Shannow - 23/09/2012 10:15:22 PM 1329 Views
That is just far fetched ... I think I would laugh out loud if that is the case darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 10:43:37 PM 1332 Views
Direct quote from Demandred refutes this... Shannow - 23/09/2012 10:49:10 PM 1334 Views
Demanded is much more like Mesaana in his ways darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 10:55:00 PM 1302 Views
Re: Demanded is much more like Mesaana in his ways Shannow - 23/09/2012 11:36:54 PM 1359 Views
Not really darius_sedai - 24/09/2012 12:31:48 AM 1374 Views
"My rule is secure." Could Demandred be ruling an entire Mirror World? Shannow - 23/09/2012 10:43:51 PM 1412 Views
I can certainly something like this happening darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 10:50:35 PM 1207 Views
I'm not sure it's possible... DomA - 24/09/2012 03:02:26 AM 1366 Views
I think ... Sidious - 24/09/2012 05:36:38 PM 1313 Views
The changes in Moghedien darius_sedai - 25/09/2012 03:29:15 AM 1196 Views
I believe she commented on Graendal's strength, comparing it to Nynaeve or something? Shannow - 25/09/2012 11:07:24 PM 1349 Views
Well.. fionwe1987 - 25/09/2012 11:15:21 PM 1226 Views
Thanks for the quote, but reading that, it kind of implies the opposite, to me... Shannow - 25/09/2012 11:35:53 PM 1525 Views
Hmmm.... fionwe1987 - 26/09/2012 12:00:33 AM 1268 Views
Hehe, that old argument again. Shannow - 26/09/2012 12:09:25 AM 1197 Views
Yes. fionwe1987 - 26/09/2012 12:58:03 AM 1161 Views
I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength darius_sedai - 26/09/2012 04:11:16 AM 1327 Views
Re: I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength Sidious - 26/09/2012 08:53:02 AM 1212 Views
Well... Shannow - 26/09/2012 09:09:38 AM 1175 Views
Re: Well... Sidious - 26/09/2012 10:17:03 AM 1325 Views
Nice speculation. I like that type of calculation. Shannow - 26/09/2012 10:59:43 AM 1287 Views
Moiraine lost more than 2/3 of her strength. Siuan lost about that and Moiraine seems darius_sedai - 26/09/2012 04:46:18 PM 1403 Views
Re: Well... fionwe1987 - 27/09/2012 03:12:06 AM 1224 Views
Re: Well... Shannow - 27/09/2012 08:17:07 AM 1176 Views
Re: I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength fionwe1987 - 27/09/2012 03:00:04 AM 1245 Views
Re: I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength Sidious - 27/09/2012 07:23:11 AM 1248 Views
As always you forget book 4 is more than half way through the timeline of the series darius_sedai - 26/09/2012 03:58:22 AM 1339 Views
Actually...... DomA - 26/09/2012 02:30:00 AM 1332 Views
Agree with this.. Shannow - 26/09/2012 06:12:34 AM 1126 Views
Not sure that's completely true.. fionwe1987 - 26/09/2012 06:42:51 AM 1175 Views
Re: Not sure that's completely true.. DomA - 26/09/2012 03:02:41 PM 1352 Views
This is what I've been saying for years! darius_sedai - 26/09/2012 05:48:01 PM 1057 Views
Re: Not sure that's completely true.. fionwe1987 - 27/09/2012 03:17:00 AM 1235 Views
Probably something like this Sidious - 26/09/2012 08:36:40 AM 1278 Views
Probably true, but maybe a hint from a Sanderson interview should be considered here... Shannow - 26/09/2012 08:56:32 AM 1234 Views
Re: Probably true, but maybe a hint from a Sanderson interview should be considered here... Sidious - 26/09/2012 10:01:08 AM 1151 Views
Graendal almost has to be Stronger than Nynaeve darius_sedai - 26/09/2012 05:57:35 PM 1376 Views
One thing about that... fionwe1987 - 27/09/2012 02:58:56 AM 1260 Views
Possible, but I find it unlikely darius_sedai - 27/09/2012 06:16:56 AM 1172 Views
The reason I think that... fionwe1987 - 27/09/2012 06:25:48 AM 1241 Views
I always assumed Nynaeve at the top was a list he later revised as he decided to bring in darius_sedai - 27/09/2012 06:39:35 AM 1297 Views
Of course that's the correct answer, yes. Shannow - 27/09/2012 08:12:45 AM 1355 Views
I wasn't making a Strength comparison ... I was commenting on her lack of cowardice darius_sedai - 26/09/2012 03:45:36 AM 1239 Views
Re: I wasn't making a Strength comparison ... I was commenting on her lack of cowardice kHz1000 - 26/09/2012 05:30:36 PM 1361 Views
That is the question I was getting at darius_sedai - 26/09/2012 06:00:03 PM 1286 Views
Re: That is the question I was getting at kHz1000 - 26/09/2012 07:01:34 PM 1321 Views
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