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Care to explain this... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 19/11/2012 05:06:28 PM

If 62.5% of channelers are stronger than Daigan, and strength in channeling is normally distributed, then Daigan is 0.32 standard deviations below the mean. Plain and simple.

Can you explain this? I'm not quite sure what math is being employed here.
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How many standard deviations is Lanfear Lanfear - 15/11/2012 06:04:39 PM 2371 Views
Well... vandevere - 15/11/2012 07:02:45 PM 1385 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 15/11/2012 07:25:34 PM 1498 Views
see we CAN agree on stuff darius_sedai - 15/11/2012 07:56:12 PM 1337 Views
Sidious - 18/11/2012 08:37:22 PM 1195 Views
We've always been close with everything except the scale darius_sedai - 18/11/2012 10:29:07 PM 1239 Views
Re: DomA - 18/11/2012 11:07:17 PM 1418 Views
Re: Sidious - 19/11/2012 05:16:00 AM 1249 Views
Re: DomA - 19/11/2012 03:13:01 PM 1236 Views
They only reject 37.5%, not 62.5% Shannow - 19/11/2012 03:19:19 PM 1264 Views
Re: They only reject 37.5%, not 62.5% DomA - 19/11/2012 04:01:43 PM 1455 Views
Re: They only reject 37.5%, not 62.5% darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 09:04:04 PM 1213 Views
Hmmm... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 02:08:40 AM 1291 Views
Perhaps, but Egwene is also being a bit dramatic in the scene as she managed darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:28:57 AM 1265 Views
Nope... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:13:13 PM 1313 Views
I believe she is being over dramatic darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 03:26:24 PM 1180 Views
Keep believing that... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:30:14 PM 1322 Views
*shrugs* darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 03:49:10 PM 1294 Views
Tired and forkroot are the same now? fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:55:22 PM 1185 Views
No it's the literary device darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:04:28 PM 1302 Views
This is getting ridiculous... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 04:43:13 PM 1184 Views
You are missing my point completely darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:50:46 PM 1133 Views
Impossible. Daigian is exactly 0.32SD below the mean Shannow - 19/11/2012 11:06:04 AM 1240 Views
You keep saying that, but it is either a linear or a non-linear distribution darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 09:09:32 PM 1319 Views
That's the whole point. Thanks for finally seeing it. Shannow - 19/11/2012 09:43:27 PM 1262 Views
keep believing that ... but you making up numbers isn't really relevant *NM* darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:29:44 AM 799 Views
Please show me a number that is made up. The 0.32SD for Daigian is a rule of statistics. Shannow - 20/11/2012 07:15:48 AM 1208 Views
Go read Fionwe's post about it *NM* darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 02:33:19 PM 802 Views
Is that before or after she started juicing? Praziquantel - 15/11/2012 11:04:14 PM 1239 Views
Wouldn't it be 1 in 105 million? Lanfear - 21/11/2012 04:56:19 PM 1094 Views
Are you sure that it is a normal distribution? Dreadlord - 16/11/2012 04:21:02 PM 1302 Views
Ugh. I hate power level discussions. For real world applications, it should be kind of meaningless beetnemesis - 16/11/2012 10:28:49 PM 1188 Views
I don't really agree Sidious - 18/11/2012 08:40:53 PM 1161 Views
Perhaps, but we've seen that a MUCH weaker Channeler can win in a duel darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 09:13:48 PM 1210 Views
Re: Perhaps, but we've seen that a MUCH weaker Channeler can win in a duel Sidious - 20/11/2012 08:10:01 AM 1183 Views
probably ... Lanfear/Cyndane is clearly remarkably skilled darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 02:35:09 PM 1215 Views
Since I've proven that it's not a normal distribution in units of absolute strength, SDs don't apply Shannow - 17/11/2012 07:48:21 PM 1243 Views
You have proven nothing, except that you have an opinion *NM* darius_sedai - 18/11/2012 02:21:35 AM 776 Views
You simply don't get it. It is mathematically a fact. There is no opinion involved. Shannow - 18/11/2012 02:19:40 PM 1072 Views
Only because you've assigned numeric values. That you created. darius_sedai - 18/11/2012 02:40:51 PM 1213 Views
It doesn't matter what figure you use... Shannow - 18/11/2012 03:01:56 PM 1103 Views
What if Daigian is one third Lanfear's strength? fionwe1987 - 18/11/2012 04:37:58 PM 1248 Views
We have a limit for Daigian's strength, as you well know. Shannow - 18/11/2012 05:41:49 PM 1206 Views
Are you kidding me? fionwe1987 - 18/11/2012 09:07:38 PM 1335 Views
Sure you can darius_sedai - 18/11/2012 10:09:31 PM 1243 Views
Re: Sure you can DomA - 18/11/2012 10:54:50 PM 1245 Views
You're right, though its 37.5% fionwe1987 - 19/11/2012 12:21:29 AM 1194 Views
Oops, typo! darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 02:54:25 AM 1219 Views
Again, not possible, due to Daigian being just 0.3SD below the Mean Shannow - 19/11/2012 08:37:01 AM 1176 Views
Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... fionwe1987 - 19/11/2012 04:05:12 PM 1098 Views
Re: Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... Sidious - 19/11/2012 05:55:02 PM 1053 Views
Egwene is about as strong as Melaine and Amys combined darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 09:19:50 PM 1178 Views
Re: Egwene is about as strong as Melaine and Amys combined fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 02:11:26 AM 1252 Views
Forkroot in every case darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:32:26 AM 1180 Views
No! fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:15:16 PM 1166 Views
I'm not going to go re-read the books to you on this darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 03:39:46 PM 1186 Views
You need to read it for yourself, since you're completely confused. fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:54:26 PM 1175 Views
Not going to argue this with you. darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:09:44 PM 1113 Views
Your own example disproved your point... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 04:39:25 PM 1230 Views
let's see, she's both asleep and would need hours to regain her strength darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:43:17 PM 1130 Views
Enough! fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:04:06 PM 1189 Views
LOL ... whatever. You go on believing that ... no one else sees it this way. *NM* darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:20:52 PM 768 Views
What a brilliant argument! fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:25:18 PM 1199 Views
this is why I refuse to continue this debate darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:31:11 PM 1142 Views
Re: Your own example disproved your point... Sidious - 20/11/2012 05:10:15 PM 1228 Views
Barasine + Katerine isn't that much less than darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:26:31 PM 1233 Views
Re: Barasine + Katerine isn't that much less than Sidious - 20/11/2012 05:31:50 PM 1209 Views
Re: Barasine + Katerine isn't that much less than darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:42:53 PM 1185 Views
Excuse me? fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:28:48 PM 1268 Views
see we can agree on the relative strength of Egwene v. Forsaken darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:35:07 PM 1209 Views
??? Sidious - 20/11/2012 05:37:01 PM 1295 Views
2 middling sisters darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:45:27 PM 1226 Views
Re: Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 02:26:47 AM 1132 Views
Re: Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... Sidious - 20/11/2012 09:03:40 AM 1159 Views
Re: Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 02:59:08 PM 1191 Views
None of this is backed by any evidence... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:24:12 PM 1122 Views
who said Cadsuane was 1.5x Moiraine or more? darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:03:13 PM 1128 Views
Nope... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 04:41:35 PM 1162 Views
wrong darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:48:50 PM 1101 Views
My bad. Mized up 1/3 and 2/3. fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:05:05 PM 1197 Views
gotcha *NM* darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:46:21 PM 738 Views
Better evidence? LOL! fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:18:55 PM 1178 Views
Huh? How did you come to that conclusion? darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:40:56 PM 1177 Views
Exactly *NM* Sidious - 20/11/2012 04:55:28 PM 1124 Views
BEcause Cadsuane is close on the heels of Egwene? fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:10:50 PM 1088 Views
I'm not arguing that. I agree that Cadsuane is pretty close to Egwene darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:50:34 PM 1227 Views
Re: Better evidence? LOL! Sidious - 20/11/2012 05:00:47 PM 1095 Views
Interesting, but let's go with your figures... Shannow - 19/11/2012 06:54:54 AM 1234 Views
Indeed Sidious - 19/11/2012 08:16:44 AM 1268 Views
Rand is sort of a special case darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:25:02 AM 1135 Views
Regarding Mesaana... Sidious - 20/11/2012 08:42:56 AM 1167 Views
You continue to mix two things darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 03:24:44 PM 1091 Views
No Sidious - 20/11/2012 04:54:19 PM 1344 Views
You are mistaken darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:04:40 PM 1174 Views
Yes she did Darius! Sidious - 20/11/2012 05:27:36 PM 1109 Views
Yet there is no duel darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 06:01:17 PM 1115 Views
Explain the .3xSD thing to me... fionwe1987 - 19/11/2012 04:58:57 PM 1337 Views
Probably, but the AS have no idea what 37.5% means darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 02:59:26 AM 1129 Views
It's irrelevant DomA - 19/11/2012 03:46:42 AM 1202 Views
Agreed. Daigian is the marker of the absolute bottom of Aes Sedai strength. Shannow - 19/11/2012 06:55:41 AM 1170 Views
Daigian Sidious - 19/11/2012 08:12:19 AM 1179 Views
It is a direct marker due to RJ's quote Shannow - 19/11/2012 08:50:26 AM 1201 Views
You missed my point Sidious - 19/11/2012 09:08:42 AM 1124 Views
Re: You missed my point DomA - 19/11/2012 02:18:33 PM 1225 Views
Asmodean would never have made the comment about 13 weakest AS darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:41:11 AM 1152 Views
Re: Asmodean would never have made the comment about 13 weakest AS Sidious - 20/11/2012 09:07:49 AM 1121 Views
Which would make an average AS around a 30 darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:58:56 PM 1032 Views
Re: Sure you can Tor - 19/11/2012 09:22:09 AM 1262 Views
Care to explain this... fionwe1987 - 19/11/2012 05:06:28 PM 1070 Views
Indeed Tor - 20/11/2012 07:16:37 AM 1279 Views
Explained far better than I ever could. Bravo. Shannow - 20/11/2012 07:30:29 AM 1142 Views
Well duh. fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 02:57:24 PM 1246 Views
Incorrect. Shannow - 20/11/2012 04:28:07 PM 1250 Views
No fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 04:44:16 PM 1226 Views
Re: No Tor - 20/11/2012 04:48:36 PM 1195 Views
That depends... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:18:46 PM 1055 Views
Re: That depends... Tor - 20/11/2012 05:31:03 PM 1628 Views
You're integrating without lower limits... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 02:55:06 PM 1186 Views
Re: You're integrating without lower limits... Tor - 20/11/2012 04:37:57 PM 1246 Views
It matters. fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:22:40 PM 1210 Views
We are not talking about a normal distribution in any case darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:44:24 AM 1023 Views
Re: We are not talking about a normal distribution in any case Tor - 20/11/2012 07:02:47 AM 1235 Views
You must tell me of this special math... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:10:09 PM 1108 Views
Re: You must tell me of this special math... Tor - 20/11/2012 04:29:40 PM 1164 Views
Morghase is a placeholder... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 04:45:42 PM 1249 Views
Re: Morghase is a placeholder... Tor - 20/11/2012 04:49:54 PM 1539 Views
Why? fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:23:29 PM 1208 Views
Re: Why? Tor - 20/11/2012 05:36:45 PM 1513 Views
Well... Sidious - 18/11/2012 08:43:59 PM 1237 Views
Re: Well... DomA - 19/11/2012 03:40:44 PM 1223 Views
Wow. Shannow - 19/11/2012 03:53:47 PM 1235 Views
Re: Wow. DomA - 19/11/2012 04:26:09 PM 1267 Views
Some points Sidious - 19/11/2012 06:03:00 PM 1303 Views
Well then you're both wrong I'm afraid Sidious - 19/11/2012 06:09:36 PM 1157 Views
Re: Well then you're both wrong I'm afraid DomA - 19/11/2012 07:42:58 PM 1021 Views
this is why I think all of the Forsaken are very close in Power darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:51:20 AM 1240 Views
Agreed Sidious - 20/11/2012 08:13:37 AM 1306 Views
probably darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 06:18:45 PM 1140 Views
Re: this is why I think all of the Forsaken are very close in Power DomA - 20/11/2012 02:45:18 PM 1157 Views
I think RJ went out of his way to keep strength a bit of a mystery darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 08:42:44 PM 1192 Views
Indeed... DomA - 21/11/2012 05:44:18 PM 1133 Views
I agree darius_sedai - 22/11/2012 01:43:02 AM 1382 Views
Math gurus...Is it possible to find the missing variable... Lanfear - 21/11/2012 05:12:24 PM 1190 Views
the problem is that the Mean is not going to tell us much really darius_sedai - 22/11/2012 02:55:03 AM 1239 Views
Re: the problem is that the Mean is not going to tell us much really Lanfear - 22/11/2012 03:15:33 AM 1551 Views
I do not think you can calculate the Mean without knowing the Units of Power darius_sedai - 22/11/2012 03:53:59 AM 1308 Views
Re: Math gurus...Is it possible to find the missing variable... Tor - 23/11/2012 02:59:12 PM 1619 Views
Disregard this post *NM* Tor - 23/11/2012 03:02:24 PM 1002 Views
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