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Hm. Possible. Kaldric Send a noteboard - 04/11/2009 06:42:12 PM
If she didn't die, but instead modified her weave to go off around male channeling so as to look as if she did when she actually escaped, the mechanics of balefire wouldn't matter.

Rand would channel saidin, the warded flows would be triggered and fade perhaps setting off an alarm, and Graendal would have left before the balefire hit the palace.

How do you escape from balefire? Don't get hit by it.


I can at least see where you are coming from now, but I still think she's dead. From a literary standpoint, I think the significance of the scene was to show how much Rand has changed, which was shown quite well, in my opinion, and your theory wouldn't add significantly to it. From a plot standpoint, I think your suggestion is needlessly complex and doesn't quite fit what I envision about Graendal. Moghedien might have done that, but I always pictured Graendal as less paranoid.

I could be wrong though. I'm sure we'll find out in the next year or two.
Kaldric

P.S. The "NSSP" is implied.

Of course, [Quixote] carried it a bit too far. He thought that every windmill was a giant. That's insane. But, thinking that they might be...
--Justin Playfair, They Might Be Giants
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Graendal's fate? Ashaman Narishma - 02/11/2009 04:18:11 AM 2038 Views
Dead. Great Lord of Chaos - 02/11/2009 04:22:48 AM 991 Views
Maybe... Ashaman Narishma - 02/11/2009 04:28:16 AM 967 Views
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Re: I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean. Ashaman Narishma - 02/11/2009 04:40:30 AM 993 Views
Re: I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean. Grimbear - 02/11/2009 05:08:09 AM 902 Views
Why has she been removed from the list of suspects? beetnemesis - 02/11/2009 02:29:41 PM 890 Views
She is dead dacole - 09/11/2009 01:37:03 AM 843 Views
That's pretty terrible logic beetnemesis - 19/11/2009 05:58:57 AM 1014 Views
I disagree. Rand al'Thor - 02/11/2009 10:29:21 PM 852 Views
Agreed. *NM* Lord Haart - 19/11/2009 11:43:45 AM 415 Views
Could it have been Verin who killed Asmodean? Bookwyrm - 02/11/2009 05:20:37 AM 1416 Views
She is dead *spoilers* brett014 - 02/11/2009 05:44:21 AM 1000 Views
Re: She is dead *spoilers* Gaidal Craig - 03/11/2009 09:01:07 AM 869 Views
Re: She is dead *spoilers* dacole - 09/11/2009 01:38:56 AM 974 Views
I thought so too, but KCF set me straight.. his response in a thread further down the board kavorka - 02/11/2009 05:56:40 PM 939 Views
I say dead. *NM* Gher - 02/11/2009 06:07:15 AM 450 Views
Dead. Seriana Sedai - 02/11/2009 06:46:10 AM 851 Views
Dead as Dumbledore. But why does it preclude her from being Asmo's killer? Master Radishes - 02/11/2009 07:04:08 AM 934 Views
Right. That info could easily be revealed through the POV of another. *NM* RandAllThor - 02/11/2009 02:15:31 PM 410 Views
It could but... Ashaman Narishma - 02/11/2009 03:14:23 PM 943 Views
Moridin would most likely know. RandAllThor - 02/11/2009 04:06:04 PM 854 Views
Well.... Etzel - 02/11/2009 08:52:52 AM 892 Views
*NM* BlackAdder - 18/11/2009 10:45:52 PM 391 Views
Alive until proven otherwise IMO *spoilers* Dragonsworn - 02/11/2009 03:47:51 PM 912 Views
That weave was very complex. Kronin al'Sulc - 02/11/2009 10:34:36 PM 834 Views
Actually, the one that Rand had Nynaeve study earlier was more complex. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 05:11:07 PM 911 Views
But you can't reverse Compulsion by unraveling it, right? BlackAdder - 18/11/2009 10:48:08 PM 861 Views
Almost certainly dead Isaac - 02/11/2009 04:48:18 PM 1019 Views
Yeah. Compared to, say, Sammael's "death" beetnemesis - 02/11/2009 10:40:01 PM 916 Views
Not even almost. Graendal and Sammael now both go well with eggs. *NM* Marshall - 03/11/2009 01:51:15 AM 438 Views
Oh, I agree, but fiction, deus ex machina, etc Isaac - 04/11/2009 09:58:42 PM 842 Views
Graendal is dead. the evidence is pretty hard NaClH2O - 03/11/2009 08:00:27 PM 3181 Views
Well, unlike everyone else, Fred Gaidin - 04/11/2009 01:34:57 AM 842 Views
Alive. It's the simplest answer for me, especially considering that Rand knew she was more cunning RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 05:03:38 PM 1032 Views
Re: Balefire. Kaldric - 04/11/2009 05:30:12 PM 867 Views
Not necessarily. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 06:08:34 PM 822 Views
The thing is... Etzel - 04/11/2009 06:25:43 PM 894 Views
Here's the rub - she had no desire to come into contact with Rand. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 10:30:05 PM 1091 Views
Re: Here's the rub - she had no desire to come into contact with Rand. dacole - 09/11/2009 01:48:30 AM 1031 Views
Hm. Possible. Kaldric - 04/11/2009 06:42:12 PM 1135 Views
I think it's the most simple possibility. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 10:39:02 PM 858 Views
Re: I think it's the most simple possibility. dacole - 09/11/2009 01:51:52 AM 797 Views
That's just absurd Marshall - 04/11/2009 10:48:30 PM 939 Views
No, I'm making it more simple. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 11:11:36 PM 879 Views
That thoery doesn't account for the undoing of the Compulsion Marshall - 04/11/2009 11:50:06 PM 884 Views
Yes, it does. Distance causes maintained weaves and Links to attenuate. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/11/2009 04:22:37 PM 940 Views
Yes, but Compulsion is almost never a maintained weave *NM* Marshall - 06/11/2009 07:19:24 PM 459 Views
But the real question in my mind... darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 08:28:31 PM 841 Views
Well Marshall - 06/12/2009 08:45:12 PM 1291 Views
Odds are she's dead darius_sedai - 06/12/2009 08:48:19 PM 736 Views
Re: No, I'm making it more simple. dacole - 09/11/2009 01:53:49 AM 850 Views
Amen! Praise the Great Lord of the Dark! **I agree with all points** Bookwyrm - 05/11/2009 07:21:52 AM 878 Views
Re: Alive. It's the simplest answer for me, especially considering that Rand knew she was BlackAdder - 18/11/2009 10:52:36 PM 851 Views
This sounds familiar. Fanatic-Templar - 09/11/2009 06:54:17 AM 795 Views
Yes... Etzel - 17/11/2009 12:12:04 PM 797 Views
Yeah, I was shocked initially. BlackAdder - 18/11/2009 10:58:15 PM 875 Views
Proof for reincarnation exists Lord Haart - 26/11/2009 06:38:17 PM 816 Views
RJ said... Etzel - 26/11/2009 06:51:26 PM 970 Views
But Rand's was spread over a LARGE area *NM* Lord Haart - 27/11/2009 12:17:47 AM 370 Views
He was drawing through the Choedan Kal... *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 27/11/2009 01:09:23 AM 360 Views
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