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Amen! Praise the Great Lord of the Dark! **I agree with all points** Bookwyrm Send a noteboard - 05/11/2009 07:21:52 AM
I am of the mind that balefire was accounted for in Moridin schemes to turn Rand to the Dark One, and his plans include using Graendal confident in her ability to survive and cause maximum emotional pain in Rand. And Graendal knew of the plans via talking with him in the Prologue, after Demandred and Mesaana left.

If she didn't die in tGS, I'm willing to bet she will die in ToM. I just don't see her battling anyone in the Last Battle.

Here is my prediction for the final showdown:

Mesaana vs Egwene (+ Vora's wand)
Demandred vs Rand (or Logain after Taim is dealt with?)
Moghedien vs Nynaeve
Cyndane vs Alivia and/or Aviendha
Halima/Aran'gar vs Caddy + circle
Padan Fain vs Mat
Moridin+DL vs Rand + Calandor + linked womenz

Wishful thinking ...
Shaidar Haran vs Bela
Cadsuane stepping on a crack and breaking her back.
Elayne vs unfortunate midwife
BOHICA - Go ahead, ask me what it means.
This message last edited by Bookwyrm on 05/11/2009 at 07:30:52 AM
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Graendal's fate? Ashaman Narishma - 02/11/2009 04:18:11 AM 1968 Views
Dead. Great Lord of Chaos - 02/11/2009 04:22:48 AM 926 Views
Maybe... Ashaman Narishma - 02/11/2009 04:28:16 AM 906 Views
I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean. LlordNakcor - 02/11/2009 04:36:37 AM 945 Views
Re: I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean. Ashaman Narishma - 02/11/2009 04:40:30 AM 916 Views
Re: I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean. Grimbear - 02/11/2009 05:08:09 AM 840 Views
Why has she been removed from the list of suspects? beetnemesis - 02/11/2009 02:29:41 PM 824 Views
She is dead dacole - 09/11/2009 01:37:03 AM 775 Views
That's pretty terrible logic beetnemesis - 19/11/2009 05:58:57 AM 953 Views
I disagree. Rand al'Thor - 02/11/2009 10:29:21 PM 786 Views
Agreed. *NM* Lord Haart - 19/11/2009 11:43:45 AM 385 Views
Could it have been Verin who killed Asmodean? Bookwyrm - 02/11/2009 05:20:37 AM 1347 Views
She is dead *spoilers* brett014 - 02/11/2009 05:44:21 AM 929 Views
Re: She is dead *spoilers* Gaidal Craig - 03/11/2009 09:01:07 AM 796 Views
Re: She is dead *spoilers* dacole - 09/11/2009 01:38:56 AM 898 Views
I thought so too, but KCF set me straight.. his response in a thread further down the board kavorka - 02/11/2009 05:56:40 PM 876 Views
I say dead. *NM* Gher - 02/11/2009 06:07:15 AM 426 Views
Dead. Seriana Sedai - 02/11/2009 06:46:10 AM 781 Views
Dead as Dumbledore. But why does it preclude her from being Asmo's killer? Master Radishes - 02/11/2009 07:04:08 AM 871 Views
Right. That info could easily be revealed through the POV of another. *NM* RandAllThor - 02/11/2009 02:15:31 PM 385 Views
It could but... Ashaman Narishma - 02/11/2009 03:14:23 PM 861 Views
Moridin would most likely know. RandAllThor - 02/11/2009 04:06:04 PM 784 Views
Well.... Etzel - 02/11/2009 08:52:52 AM 831 Views
*NM* BlackAdder - 18/11/2009 10:45:52 PM 366 Views
Alive until proven otherwise IMO *spoilers* Dragonsworn - 02/11/2009 03:47:51 PM 851 Views
That weave was very complex. Kronin al'Sulc - 02/11/2009 10:34:36 PM 768 Views
Actually, the one that Rand had Nynaeve study earlier was more complex. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 05:11:07 PM 849 Views
But you can't reverse Compulsion by unraveling it, right? BlackAdder - 18/11/2009 10:48:08 PM 800 Views
Almost certainly dead Isaac - 02/11/2009 04:48:18 PM 944 Views
Yeah. Compared to, say, Sammael's "death" beetnemesis - 02/11/2009 10:40:01 PM 847 Views
Not even almost. Graendal and Sammael now both go well with eggs. *NM* Marshall - 03/11/2009 01:51:15 AM 412 Views
Oh, I agree, but fiction, deus ex machina, etc Isaac - 04/11/2009 09:58:42 PM 780 Views
Graendal is dead. the evidence is pretty hard NaClH2O - 03/11/2009 08:00:27 PM 3117 Views
Well, unlike everyone else, Fred Gaidin - 04/11/2009 01:34:57 AM 775 Views
Alive. It's the simplest answer for me, especially considering that Rand knew she was more cunning RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 05:03:38 PM 967 Views
Re: Balefire. Kaldric - 04/11/2009 05:30:12 PM 790 Views
Not necessarily. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 06:08:34 PM 758 Views
The thing is... Etzel - 04/11/2009 06:25:43 PM 829 Views
Here's the rub - she had no desire to come into contact with Rand. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 10:30:05 PM 1024 Views
Re: Here's the rub - she had no desire to come into contact with Rand. dacole - 09/11/2009 01:48:30 AM 965 Views
Hm. Possible. Kaldric - 04/11/2009 06:42:12 PM 1069 Views
I think it's the most simple possibility. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 10:39:02 PM 789 Views
Re: I think it's the most simple possibility. dacole - 09/11/2009 01:51:52 AM 726 Views
That's just absurd Marshall - 04/11/2009 10:48:30 PM 869 Views
No, I'm making it more simple. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 11:11:36 PM 805 Views
That thoery doesn't account for the undoing of the Compulsion Marshall - 04/11/2009 11:50:06 PM 814 Views
Yes, it does. Distance causes maintained weaves and Links to attenuate. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/11/2009 04:22:37 PM 862 Views
Yes, but Compulsion is almost never a maintained weave *NM* Marshall - 06/11/2009 07:19:24 PM 433 Views
But the real question in my mind... darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 08:28:31 PM 779 Views
Well Marshall - 06/12/2009 08:45:12 PM 1221 Views
Odds are she's dead darius_sedai - 06/12/2009 08:48:19 PM 673 Views
Re: No, I'm making it more simple. dacole - 09/11/2009 01:53:49 AM 790 Views
Amen! Praise the Great Lord of the Dark! **I agree with all points** Bookwyrm - 05/11/2009 07:21:52 AM 823 Views
Re: Alive. It's the simplest answer for me, especially considering that Rand knew she was BlackAdder - 18/11/2009 10:52:36 PM 783 Views
This sounds familiar. Fanatic-Templar - 09/11/2009 06:54:17 AM 732 Views
Yes... Etzel - 17/11/2009 12:12:04 PM 728 Views
Yeah, I was shocked initially. BlackAdder - 18/11/2009 10:58:15 PM 799 Views
Proof for reincarnation exists Lord Haart - 26/11/2009 06:38:17 PM 757 Views
RJ said... Etzel - 26/11/2009 06:51:26 PM 909 Views
But Rand's was spread over a LARGE area *NM* Lord Haart - 27/11/2009 12:17:47 AM 340 Views
He was drawing through the Choedan Kal... *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 27/11/2009 01:09:23 AM 331 Views
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