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This sounds familiar. Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 09/11/2009 06:54:17 AM
You know, at first, I had the same reaction. I figured it couldn't be as easy as that. But let's face reality: the Forsaken are completely inept. From Balthamel who was killed by a walking garden and Aginor who overdrew on the Source like an untrained Wilder, to Be'lal who got backstabbed and killed in a single blow after appearing for all of one scene, to Lanfear who despite being the most powerful woman in the Power and using an angreal, died from being randomly tackled, to Rahvin and Sammael who died from the intervention of another Forsaken on behalf of the Light, to Osan'gar who was randomly killed by a circle at the Cleansing and culminating with Semirhage's poorly thought out plan and subsequent destruction with her master's own Power, the Forsaken were never meant to really be awe inspiring once we got to know them.

Rand almost ripped the Pattern apart through massive usage of balefire, that was the purpose of that scene. Granedal was only a means to that end. She was never consequential.

I expect she's dead. And I expect that this will be the new 'Semirhage was planning to get captured all along' that we witnessed after Knife of Dreams. No, she really did fail that badly.
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Graendal's fate? - 02/11/2009 04:18:11 AM 1949 Views
Dead. - 02/11/2009 04:22:48 AM 912 Views
Maybe... - 02/11/2009 04:28:16 AM 890 Views
I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean. - 02/11/2009 04:36:37 AM 927 Views
Re: I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean. - 02/11/2009 04:40:30 AM 888 Views
Re: I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean. - 02/11/2009 05:08:09 AM 826 Views
Why has she been removed from the list of suspects? - 02/11/2009 02:29:41 PM 807 Views
She is dead - 09/11/2009 01:37:03 AM 757 Views
That's pretty terrible logic - 19/11/2009 05:58:57 AM 935 Views
I disagree. - 02/11/2009 10:29:21 PM 765 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 19/11/2009 11:43:45 AM 377 Views
Could it have been Verin who killed Asmodean? - 02/11/2009 05:20:37 AM 1330 Views
She is dead *spoilers* - 02/11/2009 05:44:21 AM 913 Views
Re: She is dead *spoilers* - 03/11/2009 09:01:07 AM 777 Views
Re: She is dead *spoilers* - 09/11/2009 01:38:56 AM 883 Views
I say dead. *NM* - 02/11/2009 06:07:15 AM 420 Views
Dead. - 02/11/2009 06:46:10 AM 762 Views
Dead as Dumbledore. But why does it preclude her from being Asmo's killer? - 02/11/2009 07:04:08 AM 852 Views
Right. That info could easily be revealed through the POV of another. *NM* - 02/11/2009 02:15:31 PM 376 Views
It could but... - 02/11/2009 03:14:23 PM 840 Views
Moridin would most likely know. - 02/11/2009 04:06:04 PM 757 Views
Well.... - 02/11/2009 08:52:52 AM 815 Views
*NM* - 18/11/2009 10:45:52 PM 360 Views
Alive until proven otherwise IMO *spoilers* - 02/11/2009 03:47:51 PM 831 Views
That weave was very complex. - 02/11/2009 10:34:36 PM 746 Views
Actually, the one that Rand had Nynaeve study earlier was more complex. - 04/11/2009 05:11:07 PM 833 Views
But you can't reverse Compulsion by unraveling it, right? - 18/11/2009 10:48:08 PM 784 Views
Almost certainly dead - 02/11/2009 04:48:18 PM 922 Views
Yeah. Compared to, say, Sammael's "death" - 02/11/2009 10:40:01 PM 834 Views
Not even almost. Graendal and Sammael now both go well with eggs. *NM* - 03/11/2009 01:51:15 AM 402 Views
Oh, I agree, but fiction, deus ex machina, etc - 04/11/2009 09:58:42 PM 762 Views
Graendal is dead. the evidence is pretty hard - 03/11/2009 08:00:27 PM 3102 Views
Well, unlike everyone else, - 04/11/2009 01:34:57 AM 760 Views
Alive. It's the simplest answer for me, especially considering that Rand knew she was more cunning - 04/11/2009 05:03:38 PM 946 Views
Re: Balefire. - 04/11/2009 05:30:12 PM 769 Views
Not necessarily. - 04/11/2009 06:08:34 PM 737 Views
The thing is... - 04/11/2009 06:25:43 PM 809 Views
Here's the rub - she had no desire to come into contact with Rand. - 04/11/2009 10:30:05 PM 1002 Views
Hm. Possible. - 04/11/2009 06:42:12 PM 1052 Views
I think it's the most simple possibility. - 04/11/2009 10:39:02 PM 770 Views
Re: I think it's the most simple possibility. - 09/11/2009 01:51:52 AM 706 Views
That's just absurd - 04/11/2009 10:48:30 PM 847 Views
No, I'm making it more simple. - 04/11/2009 11:11:36 PM 781 Views
That thoery doesn't account for the undoing of the Compulsion - 04/11/2009 11:50:06 PM 798 Views
Yes, it does. Distance causes maintained weaves and Links to attenuate. - 05/11/2009 04:22:37 PM 836 Views
Yes, but Compulsion is almost never a maintained weave *NM* - 06/11/2009 07:19:24 PM 425 Views
But the real question in my mind... - 02/12/2009 08:28:31 PM 762 Views
Well - 06/12/2009 08:45:12 PM 1205 Views
Odds are she's dead - 06/12/2009 08:48:19 PM 650 Views
Re: No, I'm making it more simple. - 09/11/2009 01:53:49 AM 775 Views
Amen! Praise the Great Lord of the Dark! **I agree with all points** - 05/11/2009 07:21:52 AM 803 Views
This sounds familiar. - 09/11/2009 06:54:17 AM 716 Views
Yes... - 17/11/2009 12:12:04 PM 711 Views
Yeah, I was shocked initially. - 18/11/2009 10:58:15 PM 779 Views
Proof for reincarnation exists - 26/11/2009 06:38:17 PM 742 Views
RJ said... - 26/11/2009 06:51:26 PM 877 Views
But Rand's was spread over a LARGE area *NM* - 27/11/2009 12:17:47 AM 333 Views
He was drawing through the Choedan Kal... *NM* - 27/11/2009 01:09:23 AM 324 Views

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